The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

[Cold]

Rawwr said:

Cold said:

Are you ok? I mean, you're typing so you've still got at least one unbroken finger, but getting knocked off a bike often involves a hospital visit.

No broken bones but some unpleasant soft tissue damage.

Chicks dig scars.

[Frimley111R]

Its unfortunate being knocked off and glad you are ok but as said above, when the light goes green you move off quickly without looking right, even with an arctic coming across the junction still. And then, without checking again, you pulled across the junction when a van was coming. Of course they were at fault but why didn't you check to your right, not once but twice? You saw the arctic in time but didn't check for anything else following it.

[Mammasaid]

andy118run said:

Agreed.

Not excusing the light jumpers but...

There's lights I pass through pretty much every day where you see this sort of behaviour. I generally pause for a few seconds and let them pass rather than adopt a 'well my light's green so I'm going attitude'.

Defensive driving/riding, a crazy concept, I suppose...

Why aren't there more red light camera on junctions/roundabouts like these? It would put a stop to it pretty sharpish.

[Solocle]

Rawwr said:

Here's a video of me being knocked off my bike by the third person to jump a red light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gxvcf1MhEI

His current defence to the police is 'the light was on amber'.

Well, that's not going to fly. The light phase is clear, you can see where the stop line is, and you can even make out that the light is red as the camera car moves forward!

[Seesure]

andy118run said:

Agreed.

Not excusing the light jumpers but...

There's lights I pass through pretty much every day where you see this sort of behaviour. I generally pause for a few seconds and let them pass rather than adopt a 'well my light's green so I'm going attitude'.

Defensive driving/riding, a crazy concept, I suppose...

Exactly.... just because you have a green light doesn't mean it's safe to go....

Take some responsibility for your own safety and consider that it's likely that at least 50% of drivers have below average intelligence and that many of those that are above average intelligence are just crap drivers...

[Rawwr]

Frimley111R said:

Its unfortunate being knocked off and glad you are ok but as said above, when the light goes green you move off quickly without looking right, even with an arctic coming across the junction still. And then, without checking again, you pulled across the junction when a van was coming. Of course they were at fault but why didn't you check to your right, not once but twice? You saw the arctic in time but didn't check for anything else following it.

I promised myself I wouldn't respond to the these posts but you're making assumptions and speaking about them like they're facts.

Of course I was looking right, that's why I stopped for the Stobart lorry. I stopped ahead of my line but before their lane, hence why I wasn't mashed by the Stobart lorry. It also put me in a position to be seen by the traffic on the roundabout. I really have no idea why you think I wasn't checking right.

I made the decision to proceed after the Stobart lorry because the van driver had slowed to an almost stop at his red light. It was only after this that he decided to plant his foot and go for it. That's why you see a pretty large gap between the Stobart lorry and the van driver. It wasn't a consistent flow, it was a stop and a lunge.

I only posted the link on here to see how quickly I would be told it was my fault. Pistonheads never disappoints.

[Rawwr]

Seesure said:

Exactly.... just because you have a green light doesn't mean it's safe to go....

Take some responsibility for your own safety and consider that it's likely that at least 50% of drivers have below average intelligence and that many of those that are above average intelligence are just crap drivers...

Jesus Christ.

[maccas99]

Rawwr said:

I promised myself I wouldn't respond to the these posts but you're making assumptions and speaking about them like they're facts.

Of course I was looking right, that's why I stopped for the Stobart lorry. I stopped ahead of my line but before their lane, hence why I wasn't mashed by the Stobart lorry. It also put me in a position to be seen by the traffic on the roundabout. I really have no idea why you think I wasn't checking right.

I made the decision to proceed after the Stobart lorry because the van driver had slowed to an almost stop at his red light. It was only after this that he decided to plant his foot and go for it. That's why you see a pretty large gap between the Stobart lorry and the van driver. It wasn't a consistent flow, it was a stop and a lunge.

I only posted the link on here to see how quickly I would be told it was my fault. Pistonheads never disappoints.

You must know by now that you come before the PH Jury guilty before being proved innocent!

Van driver is a knob and deserves everything he gets (DWDCA?) - Cheers Rawwr, that clears it up, good luck with you recovery!

[InitialDave]

I sort of get the point, it's absolutely not his fault at all, but as a take-home point from the entire debacle, "everyone else is a fking imbecile who's out to kill you, watch out for them" is not the worst thing to bear in mind.

There's a couple of roundabouts/junctions I'm notable cautious at because of how many times someone has blown through despite me having priority.

You don't have to blame him for getting hit to be able to recognise that looking directly at the fkers to see what they're doing might have rescued the situation.

Seems he managed to find a particularly dickish dick in this case.

[softtop]

Here's a BIG generalisation, do those with a dash cam have one because they feel they are involved in their fair share of 'incidents?' With good awareness, you should not end up in a situation that needs recording.

Thoughts please.

[InitialDave]

softtop said:

Here's a BIG generalisation, do those with a dash cam have one because they feel they are involved in their fair share of 'incidents?' With good awareness, you should not end up in a situation that needs recording.

Thoughts please.

The dashcam car wasn't involved in that motorbike/van incident at all, but was still useful in providing evidence of what happened.

[untakenname]

Good awareness won't help you if someone clips you whilst in traffic or runs into the back of you, the clips in this thread are only posted due to something happening, 99.99999% of the time the dashcams recording no accidents take place.

[Frimley111R]

Rawwr said:

Frimley111R said:

Its unfortunate being knocked off and glad you are ok but as said above, when the light goes green you move off quickly without looking right, even with an arctic coming across the junction still. And then, without checking again, you pulled across the junction when a van was coming. Of course they were at fault but why didn't you check to your right, not once but twice? You saw the arctic in time but didn't check for anything else following it.

I promised myself I wouldn't respond to the these posts but you're making assumptions and speaking about them like they're facts.

Of course I was looking right, that's why I stopped for the Stobart lorry. I stopped ahead of my line but before their lane, hence why I wasn't mashed by the Stobart lorry. It also put me in a position to be seen by the traffic on the roundabout. I really have no idea why you think I wasn't checking right.

I made the decision to proceed after the Stobart lorry because the van driver had slowed to an almost stop at his red light. It was only after this that he decided to plant his foot and go for it. That's why you see a pretty large gap between the Stobart lorry and the van driver. It wasn't a consistent flow, it was a stop and a lunge.

I only posted the link on here to see how quickly I would be told it was my fault. Pistonheads never disappoints.

Don't get all grumpy, we can see what we can see. If it's hidden and only you know what went on out of sight of the camera why did you leave us to guess what actually happened? We just drew conclusions from that. If you'd have told us what actually happened....

[Rawwr]

Frimley111R said:

Don't get all grumpy, we can see what we can see. If it's hidden and only you know what went on out of sight of the camera why did you leave us to guess what actually happened? We just drew conclusions from that. If you'd have told us what actually happened....

Naw, you assumed I didn't look rather than assume I did look and you could've asked a question rather than make a statement. It's a strange stance to take; "This chap posted a video. I don't have all the information I need from the video so I'm going to assume everything to the negative or contrary."

[borcy]

Rawwr said:

Naw, you assumed I didn't look rather than assume I did look and you could've asked a question rather than make a statement. It's a strange stance to take; "This chap posted a video. I don't have all the information I need from the video so I'm going to assume everything to the negative or contrary."

In fairness you could have put up the full story at the same time as the video. It does help clear things up

[Mandat]

Rawwr said:

I only posted the link on here to see how quickly I would be told it was my fault. Pistonheads never disappoints.

Don't get upset with constructive criticism.

No one here is blaming you, as it is clear that the van ran a red and collided with you.

The point that is being made about defensive driving is that with good observation & anticipation, you can mitigate against becoming part of someone else's accident. This doesn't detract from the 100% blame being on the van driver.

You've since elaborated on the sequence of events between the Stobart truck passing and the van appearing to come to a stop, which shows that you did look and anticipate, and it was pure bad luck (for you) that the van drive turned out to be one of the sub-average drivers that ended up wiping you out.

[Pica-Pica]

untakenname said:

Good awareness won't help you if someone clips you whilst in traffic or runs into the back of you, the clips in this thread are only posted due to something happening, 99.99999% of the time the dashcams recording no accidents take place.

Good awareness WILL help prevent a rear-ender . Slow down so they can see you slowing down, when you can see THEY are slowing down and aware of you, you can decrease the gap in front of you.

[trackdemon]

Rawwr said:

Frimley111R said:

Don't get all grumpy, we can see what we can see. If it's hidden and only you know what went on out of sight of the camera why did you leave us to guess what actually happened? We just drew conclusions from that. If you'd have told us what actually happened....

Naw, you assumed I didn't look rather than assume I did look and you could've asked a question rather than make a statement. It's a strange stance to take; "This chap posted a video. I don't have all the information I need from the video so I'm going to assume everything to the negative or contrary."

You could be static on a green light, get wiped out by a tt driving the wrong way, on the phone, pissed..... and it'd still somehow be your fault on ph

[Mandat]

trackdemon said:

You could be static on a green light, get wiped out by a tt driving the wrong way, on the phone, pissed..... and it'd still somehow be your fault on ph

Can you point out anybody on this thread that has said it was Rawwr's fault?

[dxg]

Mandat said:

trackdemon said:

You could be static on a green light, get wiped out by a tt driving the wrong way, on the phone, pissed..... and it'd still somehow be your fault on ph

Can you point out anybody on this thread that has said it was Rawwr's fault?

( Rawwr - that was entirely your fault! )