Awkward design details on production cars

[fooman]

Foot parking brake might be wrong with a manual gearbox, but then a manual gearbox is wrong in a Mercedes. QED.

[The spinner of plates]

fooman said:

Foot parking brake might be wrong with a manual gearbox, but then a manual gearbox is wrong in a Mercedes. QED.

Agree

[Slow]

If you drove any form of old Land Rover or a early 2000s Bmw you would know handbrakes are basically useless and you have to park in gear. Adjusted once per year to pass the mot and no longer working a week later.

[Jonny_]

The spinner of plates said:

Riley Blue said:

mybrainhurts said:

Mercedes foot pedal parking brakes....aaaargh..

I sold the only Mercedes I ever bought after a few months because of it.

I’ve been running an old merc for a few years now and strangely I’ve come to actually like this feature.

It’s auto though. On a manual I can imagine it being awkward.

I've got a Hyundai (hybrid, thus auto) with the same. Found it weird at first, but having got used to it I definitely prefer it to an electronic parking brake.
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Do still find a "proper" handbrake a little nicer to use, but the tradeoff is the extra space in the centre console.

Daft handbrake design award surely goes to Ford for the S Max/Galaxy MK3. Ok, it looks funky and a bit "aviation", and it's not unpleasant to use, but the mechanism is enormous and quite complicated compared with a conventional lever. Seems to occupy a great deal of the centre console, which could have been better utilised as storage cubbies.

[Master Bean]

The back of the new Corsa looks like a Rover 25.

[Harrison Bergeron]

ae2006 said:

ae2006 said:

Good that i found this thread, i spotted a new DRL design trend seeing Mercedes EQCs and Golf 8s on the street. The monobrow, how they look like:




What i see:

Round 2
Please, stop

Edited by ae2006 on Saturday 27th March 21:01

It doesn’t help that the merc version looks like some chav has just stuck some LED tape to the grill of their car. The DRLs aren’t even close to the colour temp/quality of the other lights and it really makes it stand out and look cheap.

[carlove]

Harrison Bergeron said:

It doesn’t help that the merc version looks like some chav has just stuck some LED tape to the grill of their car. The DRLs aren’t even close to the colour temp/quality of the other lights and it really makes it stand out and look cheap.

That’s exactly what I thought it was when I first saw one.
The Golf has the same problem, looks like a cheap, chavvy aftermarket fit. It does look a bit better then the Mercedes thought.

[Veeayt]

carlove said:

They’ve also got the DS9, which will probably sell about 3 units. But I think it’s a very good looking car.

[Cliftonite]

mybrainhurts said:

Mercedes foot pedal parking brakes....aaaargh..

An excellent system. I was surprised (and delighted) to find one on my recently-acquired 2019 Lexus!

Would not want one on a manual car, though!

[Nickbrapp]

ae2006 said:

ae2006 said:

Good that i found this thread, i spotted a new DRL design trend seeing Mercedes EQCs and Golf 8s on the street. The monobrow, how they look like:




What i see:

Round 2
Please, stop

Edited by ae2006 on Saturday 27th March 21:01

I have a feeling that originally both MB and Vw wanted the logo to be illuminated aswell but wasn’t it stopped under some EU regulation to do with unnecessary light pollution or something ridiculous like that? I suppose it would look better if it had gone all the way across

[Cyder]

Illuminated emblems that are standalone are currently not allowed.

[lel]

I quite liked these until I noticed the awful ski jump C pillar, makes the rear doors look hideous.

[RATATTAK]

lel said:

I quite liked these until I noticed the awful ski jump C pillar, makes the rear doors look hideous.

There are several poor details on that model (I know because my neighbour has one and it's all I can see out of my dining room window) ... not least the eye offending bonnet flutes which end abrubtly just before the A-pillars.

[RammyMP]

RATATTAK said:

lel said:

I quite liked these until I noticed the awful ski jump C pillar, makes the rear doors look hideous.

There are several poor details on that model (I know because my neighbour has one and it's all I can see out of my dining room window) ... not least the eye offending bonnet flutes which end abrubtly just before the A-pillars.

Try sitting in side it, her in doors has got one, the rear view mirror housing is massive due to the crash avoidance camera so visibility out the windscreen is reduced. And the interior trim pattern makes you go boz eyed.

[RammyMP]

RammyMP said:

RATATTAK said:

lel said:

I quite liked these until I noticed the awful ski jump C pillar, makes the rear doors look hideous.

There are several poor details on that model (I know because my neighbour has one and it's all I can see out of my dining room window) ... not least the eye offending bonnet flutes which end abrubtly just before the A-pillars.

Try sitting in side it, her in doors has got one, the rear view mirror housing is massive due to the crash avoidance camera so visibility out the windscreen is reduced. And the interior trim pattern makes you go boz eyed.

Cant be arsed going out to the car for a photo so tried to find one on google, the awful pattern trim is on the right. If you look at it by accident it makes your eyes go funny. Plus it reflects off the plastic next to it so it looks like the trim is distorted.

[David_M]

The tail lights on the new Defender are just . . . . not right. While finding this image I even ended up reading an article about why they are like this, and they are still wrong.

[RATATTAK]

RammyMP said:

RammyMP said:

RATATTAK said:

lel said:

I quite liked these until I noticed the awful ski jump C pillar, makes the rear doors look hideous.

There are several poor details on that model (I know because my neighbour has one and it's all I can see out of my dining room window) ... not least the eye offending bonnet flutes which end abrubtly just before the A-pillars.

Try sitting in side it, her in doors has got one, the rear view mirror housing is massive due to the crash avoidance camera so visibility out the windscreen is reduced. And the interior trim pattern makes you go boz eyed.

Cant be arsed going out to the car for a photo so tried to find one on google, the awful pattern trim is on the right. If you look at it by accident it makes your eyes go funny. Plus it reflects off the plastic next to it so it looks like the trim is distorted.

Here's a photo of the same car with some camouflage on it which, to my eye, improves the looks no end:

[Travs]

Master Bean said:

The back of the new Corsa looks like a Rover 25.

You say this as though it’s a bad thing 😁

[HTP99]

David_M said:

The tail lights on the new Defender are just . . . . not right. While finding this image I even ended up reading an article about why they are like this, and they are still wrong.

And yet whenever I see a new Defender I'm always impressed with how the tail lights look, very different to anything else out there.

[2Btoo]

Cyder said:

Illuminated emblems that are standalone are currently not allowed.

Interesting, any idea why?

(Apart from the fact that they would be hideously tasteless as I don't think that such prohibitions exist in law.)