The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)

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minimoog

6,905 posts

221 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Ace selection there Loon.

The Sprite is fabulous and it's a while since I've seen a Gruntcarlt.

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L100NYY

35,252 posts

245 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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That little fleet would do me just nicely yes

Until I choose a different three tomorrow that is hehe

L100NYY

35,252 posts

245 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Talking of real world interesting toys;

New Petrolicious video....

https://petrolicious.com/films/1996-volvo-850-r-sl...


jeremyc

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23,721 posts

286 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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L100NYY said:
Some interesting toys going through Silverstone Auction at Race Retro;

nb Although the website seems to be playing up,

http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/race-retro-clas...
I'll take the Dino, 26R and Escort Twin Cam (pity about the sunroof).

TaThankYouVeryMuch.



Nice colour. wink



Website is too borked for me to get all the pictures.



Chris Stott

13,507 posts

199 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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L100NYY said:
Mmmmmmm... fat tyres with proper side walls cloud9

Crook

6,822 posts

226 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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rejn said:
E24man said:
4941cc said:
Fresh Prince said:
Why 5.7 over 6.0?
Because 5.7 was the largest that it was deemed that the M/S7x block could reliably be taken out to, by both BMW and ALPINA. It's the same block architecture as the small block sixes from the 80s, which went out to a max of 2.7 litres due to the thickness of walls between adjacent cylinders.

For what seemed to mainly be marketing reasons, a 6.0 was developed - but given the relative rarity of those, yet high frequency of cooked engines, gasket issues and full replacement engines (at £18k a pop, 10-15 years ago), I'd give a 6.0 the swerve.

The 6,064cc of McLaren F1's V12 is entirely unrelated to these engines. That was derived from joining two 2,990 cc S50 24v (itself derived from the M50 sixes of the following generation) sixes together in principle.
The Alpina E38 5.7 was a bored out version of the 5.4 in the E38 750iL, and the Alpina E38 6.0 was a stroked version of their 5.7.

The issue with the 6.0 cars is two-fold.

Firstly the stroking of the 6.0 engine required pistons with appreciably shorter skirts and 0/40 (iirc) oil was initially specified. The combination of short skirts and skinny oil has led to a majority of the Alpina 6.0 engines consuming quite large amounts of oil as piston rattle scored the bores, with over half the engines ever built requiring the aforementioned very expensive rebuilds, some under warranty and some at customers expense, with some at as little as 15k miles (for comparison there are plenty of 5.7's over 250k km's and one or two over 400k km's on their original engines).

Alpina now recommend 10/60 for all their past V12 engines.

Secondly the gearboxes on the 6.0 cars seem more fragile; whether this due to the increased torque, more revvy engine encouraging hooligan behaviour or a technical update and change early in the 6.0 production period is unclear, but search enough forums (I did) and a picture emerges of far more 6.0 gearbox problems than 5.7.

As for swb vs lwb, there is just a 35kg weight gain for the lwb over the 1960kg of the swb and the useful extra space of the lwb is well worth the tiny disadvantage. Dynamically the lwb will give an even more supple ride, for a sports car the E38 isn't.

The 6.0 car had a declared 0-60 of 5.9 seconds and the 5.7 just outside 6 seconds but that isn't a measure of the cars real prowess; the outstanding ability of all the B12 cars, E32 included, is the rate at which you can add speed once you're already moving; put simply, it's relentless.
Sometimes I get bored by technical detail on this thread. But sometimes I’m in complete awe at the knowledge on here. Thank you E24Man and 4921cc.
yes

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4941cc

25,867 posts

208 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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For a bit of barge-love, I think you can't go far wrong with this.

In terms of what looks like great condition, a lack of Latvian "improvements" and just being a very correct colour and wheel spec (outside at least), this looks fantastic to me: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283361169215?ViewItem=&...

Ali2202

3,815 posts

206 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Bit Bonkers. Would've thought JLR might've had this in their collection already....

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1077934


minimoog

6,905 posts

221 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Did they have saggy headlining from brand new then?

E24man

6,767 posts

181 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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minimoog said:
Did they have saggy headlining from brand new then?
And a frilly sunroof blind?

Zarco

18,008 posts

211 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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rejn said:
Sometimes I get bored by technical detail on this thread. But sometimes I’m in complete awe at the knowledge on here. Thank you E24Man and 4921cc.
Yes, I liked that too.

Fresh Prince

527 posts

174 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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Zarco said:
rejn said:
Sometimes I get bored by technical detail on this thread. But sometimes I’m in complete awe at the knowledge on here. Thank you E24Man and 4921cc.
Yes, I liked that too.
I can only add to the chorus of appreciation. I wasn’t expecting such engaging and comprehensive answers. Thank you both! (And a shame for me that B12 prices have risen to where they are...)

stickylabels

574 posts

94 months

Sunday 10th February 2019
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Well that didn't last very long did it? A7 Bi-Tdi bought at the end of august is gone after just 4k miles. Like the shape, really dis-liked the poorly designed geek features such as the pop -up screen that insists on going up and down like a bleedin 'yo-yo very time you want to alter something that already has its own button and is simply unnecessary. Add silly faults and a dealer that was beyond awful, complaints to Audi 'Exec Office' who were as useful as a fart in a spacesuit and it was game over. I didn't even look back at it when we drove away, very odd.

Agree on the above re the simply brilliant info available on here and those Alpinas.

Sticky.

stickylabels

574 posts

94 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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.......So to cheer myself up, I bought this!jester It's somewhere to the right of planet daft car and makes the whole family laugh out loud
when you give it a prodbiglaugh




Output Flange

16,809 posts

213 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Is that a Trackhawk?

stickylabels

574 posts

94 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Negative, just the plain vanilla SRT. Trackhawk wedge is a bit too up there for my wallet unfortunately. This still feels (and sounds) way better than I imagined it would.

Sticky.

Output Flange

16,809 posts

213 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Forgive me, I'm not up on my Jeep lineage.

Looks nice either way!

stickylabels

574 posts

94 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Not at all chap, they look very similar and I couldn't tell you 90% of Jeep's stuff either!

Cheers

Fast Bug

11,775 posts

163 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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If you haven’t got one already, might I suggest you get a Nectar card? I feel you’ll rack up the points in no time laugh

stickylabels

574 posts

94 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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You win Mr Fast Bug!! Had a bet with my missus on who'd mention it first. We have a pact, it's the only question no-ones allowed to ask!!!laugh

Brimmed the 20gallon tank at Costco in Edinburgh as 'their' super is 117p/l. It even has an 'Eco' button for cylinder deactivation. After over 300 hundred miles bringing it back here, my son and I have nicknamed it the 'B/S' button....drink... oh the numbers on the dash looked lovely to make you feel gooey inside but it made naff all difference in reality.

Of course, once the caravan is nailed onto it and the bikes put on the roof I can feel a very new low coming on......

Sticky.
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