Cars you didn't know existed...
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BFleming said:
quigonjay said:
There was indeed one on the Ring last year (although not this exact one). They are a strange concept, but it's classed as a microcar which German kids can drive from the age of 16 (or 15 in some German states). ![](https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Ellenator-169FullWidth-49465a5d-1550935.jpg)
![](https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Ellenator-169Inline-dcf7019f-1550934.jpg)
Is it the same rule that applies to dual truck wheels?
saaby93 said:
BFleming said:
quigonjay said:
There was indeed one on the Ring last year (although not this exact one). They are a strange concept, but it's classed as a microcar which German kids can drive from the age of 16 (or 15 in some German states). ![](https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Ellenator-169FullWidth-49465a5d-1550935.jpg)
![](https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Ellenator-169Inline-dcf7019f-1550934.jpg)
Is it the same rule that applies to dual truck wheels?
BFleming said:
"Directive 2002/24 / EC defines double wheels, which are legally regarded as one wheel, as “two wheels mounted on one axle, where the distance between the centers of the tire contact areas on the road is less than 460mm"
Those two in the Fiat look as though they may be independently sprung?460mm looks remarkably like 18 inches - which country wrote the rule?
ETA
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https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do...
and uk
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/eudr/2002/24/2013-0...
directive said:
8. "twinned wheels" means two wheels mounted on the same axle, the distance between the centres of their areas of contact with the ground being less than 460 mm. Twinned wheels shall be considered as one wheel;
Edited by saaby93 on Monday 10th August 11:23
saaby93 said:
BFleming said:
"Directive 2002/24 / EC defines double wheels, which are legally regarded as one wheel, as “two wheels mounted on one axle, where the distance between the centers of the tire contact areas on the road is less than 460mm"
Those two in the Fiat look as though they may be independently sprung?460mm looks remarkably like 18 inches - which country wrote the rule?
The Fiat uses the same spring mounts & shock positions as the original trailing beam. Effectively this is a single trailing beam too, as there is a crossmember in front of the wheels.
By the way, these have been well covered on this very thread last year: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Red Devil said:
Some evidence for the allegation. ![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
It would appear the prototype is not the only example in existence. LHD version on HEAD Facebook page: October 2019.
![](https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/74634314_2661392013923301_20752152397873152_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=ZUvhRgvkQ3oAX8anMnU&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=1e0bc26f1e8054bd5cf0339835d0cc30&oe=5ECE20CF)
This is a Wells Vertige it has a Ford 2.0 Engine we are currently building the 3rd Prototype which will be ready sometime this year!!![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
It would appear the prototype is not the only example in existence. LHD version on HEAD Facebook page: October 2019.
![](https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/74634314_2661392013923301_20752152397873152_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=ZUvhRgvkQ3oAX8anMnU&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=1e0bc26f1e8054bd5cf0339835d0cc30&oe=5ECE20CF)
saaby93 said:
ajprice said:
saaby93 said:
Passenger side/wheels of the car, for parking up against the kerb.Is it a popular aftermarket fitment
![](https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/honda/passport/1997/oem/1997_honda_passport_4dr-suv_lx_fq_oem_1_500.jpg)
Honda Passport Mk I
![](https://consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/98802051990118.jpg)
Honda Passport Mk II
Honda's upscale North American brand Acura got in the action by offering a tarted-up version of the Trooper as the Acura SLX.
![](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/acura-slx-radwood-103-1575498441.jpg?crop=1.00xw:0.753xh;0,0.130xh&resize=768:*)
MadmanO/T People said:
Honda also rebadged some Isuzus for the USA, too. The Honda Passport even survived two generations...
![](https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/honda/passport/1997/oem/1997_honda_passport_4dr-suv_lx_fq_oem_1_500.jpg)
Honda Passport Mk I
![](https://consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/98802051990118.jpg)
Honda Passport Mk II
Honda's upscale North American brand Acura got in the action by offering a tarted-up version of the Trooper as the Acura SLX.
![](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/acura-slx-radwood-103-1575498441.jpg?crop=1.00xw:0.753xh;0,0.130xh&resize=768:*)
How did a company like Honda end up licensing so many of the worst cars ever designed? ![](https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/honda/passport/1997/oem/1997_honda_passport_4dr-suv_lx_fq_oem_1_500.jpg)
Honda Passport Mk I
![](https://consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/98802051990118.jpg)
Honda Passport Mk II
Honda's upscale North American brand Acura got in the action by offering a tarted-up version of the Trooper as the Acura SLX.
![](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/acura-slx-radwood-103-1575498441.jpg?crop=1.00xw:0.753xh;0,0.130xh&resize=768:*)
Oldsmobile Firenza https://poconos.craigslist.org/ctd/d/kearny-1988-o...
![](https://images.craigslist.org/00U0U_j74fG3ZAODz_0ak07K_600x450.jpg)
![](https://images.craigslist.org/00K0K_aK4FNFr0Yd_05O07K_600x450.jpg)
US market, based on the same 'J body' platform as the mk2 Vauxhall Cavalier. It came up on a Facebook page, I thought the doors looked a bit like the Cavalier and Wikipedia confirmed it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_J_platform
You could get the Oldsmobile with a 2.8 V6 though, the top Cavalier engine was the 2.0 4 cylinder. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Firenza
![](https://images.craigslist.org/00U0U_j74fG3ZAODz_0ak07K_600x450.jpg)
![](https://images.craigslist.org/00K0K_aK4FNFr0Yd_05O07K_600x450.jpg)
US market, based on the same 'J body' platform as the mk2 Vauxhall Cavalier. It came up on a Facebook page, I thought the doors looked a bit like the Cavalier and Wikipedia confirmed it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_J_platform
You could get the Oldsmobile with a 2.8 V6 though, the top Cavalier engine was the 2.0 4 cylinder. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Firenza
Matt Cup said:
Doofus said:
A Winner Is You said:
Is that really an offical kit? Ford's RS styling wasn't necessarily more subtle, but it generally looked a lot more professional.![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/attdv3vn.jpg)
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