Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]
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derin100 said:
callahan said:
I waved goodbye to my Boxster this evening, so the hunt for a replacement estate car really ramps up - the more thread (but reliable) the better!
How about a wrong fuel but decent engine E320: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Looks good...advert sounds good...possibly the sort of vendor with knowledge that you want.How about a wrong fuel but decent engine E320: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
(7G ‘box? Not so sure it’s a 7 speed as that infers)
Worthers gold/metallic beige per ultimate barge spec.
Some won’t touch that era, but you could do a lot worse.
Max M4X WW said:
W00DY said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
How lovely is this?
Not 6.5k lovely is the answer, but lovely it is.
thelawnet1 said:
Gold Jap barge?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
This is the 2.5l turbo 4wd model.
£4250 should be able to knock a few quid off that?
An awful lot of phwoar there!https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
This is the 2.5l turbo 4wd model.
£4250 should be able to knock a few quid off that?
Only downside to these IMO is the interior is so very plastic... but that might less bad on this example as it's black - the 2 I've sat in were both beige; it really made the car feel cut-price from the driver's seat, which is a shame as the rest of it seems anything but
derin100 said:
One of my questions to the vendor was regarding an oil leak advisory in the MOT history that I looked up yesterday. That was noted a few years back but then not in later MOTs. So, either it's the usual weep that you get via those engine's head-gasket which then might have been rectified with the later, modified gasket or subsequent MOT testers have chosen to ignore it?
Derin, for information (I am in no way trying to put you off such a lovely car) my E320 has oil all over the lower part of the engine, and with the tighter MOT I thought I’d better get it up in the air and take a look. There’s no mention of head gasket replacement in the car’s history, but I think it probably has been done by 163k miles. It could be my car has played the joker and has the full suite of potential leaks, but so far:
It’s leaking oil from the join between engine block and oil filter housing, so I’ve now got a new gasket to fit there.
The front crank seal appears responsible for the worst oil leak, so I’ve got a new Elring standard seal, but am now wondering if I should get a “repair” seal in before I take the thing apart.
One of the hoses to the ATF cooler was weeping ATF, so new hoses and pipe waiting to go in.
The timing chain cover is leaking, and while I’ve got a new (and apparently improved) Elring gasket it is apparently a bit of a bugger to sort.
The cam solenoid is leaking, but I do have the anaerobic sealant already thanks to the SL having the same issue.
There’s a weep from the steering box, so while I bought a cheap rebuild kit, I’m not sure I will do that and will probably clean it up and hope for the best.
Unrelated to oil, the water pump is leaking, with coolant all over the A/C compressor, so new pump and hoses going on (together with thermostat and, as its original rad is tired and the aluminium fins are falling apart, a new radiator).
None of the above is particularly costly (water pump and radiator the biggest items) but what started as a five minute poke around has turned into a few weekends work when I can find the time. The wiring loom swap was a piece of cake compared to some of those items!
Edited by Stegel on Friday 22 March 08:02
tog said:
cmvtec said:
I spotted that on Wifetrader the other day, but the £1500 + £750 buying fee really hacked me off. I believe it avoids paying more for the ad.
Pillarlessness, though, is lovely.
And it gets seen by people searching in lower price brackets. But you can report the advert to AT for "Misleading price (Not the full selling price or Admin fee not included in full selling price)".Pillarlessness, though, is lovely.
ETA they do, and I've reported the ad as misleading. Wonder if they'll do anything about it?
Have something at an unashamed but bargainous 22x thread because it's Friday to make up for it.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Edited by Croutons on Friday 22 March 07:53
Croutons said:
Anyone feeling super brave with a £1500 C140 500 project? Has new wings and wiring loom to be fitted by someone with much patience and optimism. Still, I say again, £1500!
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
ETA scrap that, £725 buying fee on top, or "f
k that then". Sorry, false alarm!
It “sold” for £1,672 on eBay in mid-February. Same photos so “sale” clearly fell through. Could be a nice car at the right price. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
ETA scrap that, £725 buying fee on top, or "f
k that then". Sorry, false alarm!Edited by Croutons on Thursday 21st March 23:15
I don’t think the Evans Halshaw style £75 admin fee equates to £725, but either way a reason to avoid simply on principle!
defblade said:
thelawnet1 said:
Gold Jap barge?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
This is the 2.5l turbo 4wd model.
£4250 should be able to knock a few quid off that?
An awful lot of phwoar there!https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
This is the 2.5l turbo 4wd model.
£4250 should be able to knock a few quid off that?
Only downside to these IMO is the interior is so very plastic... but that might less bad on this example as it's black - the 2 I've sat in were both beige; it really made the car feel cut-price from the driver's seat, which is a shame as the rest of it seems anything but
callahan said:
defblade said:
thelawnet1 said:
Gold Jap barge?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
This is the 2.5l turbo 4wd model.
£4250 should be able to knock a few quid off that?
An awful lot of phwoar there!https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
This is the 2.5l turbo 4wd model.
£4250 should be able to knock a few quid off that?
Only downside to these IMO is the interior is so very plastic... but that might less bad on this example as it's black - the 2 I've sat in were both beige; it really made the car feel cut-price from the driver's seat, which is a shame as the rest of it seems anything but
Uh oh low coolant light has appeared on my S211. It briefly came on about a week ago when parked on an incline.
Bunged a litre of water in to get me home last night but it was late so have not had a chance to look properly. The addition of the water briefly extinguished the warning but was back on after a mile or two. Hope it is just a sensor but I suspect I have a leak somewhere.
Looks like I have a job for the weekend!
Bunged a litre of water in to get me home last night but it was late so have not had a chance to look properly. The addition of the water briefly extinguished the warning but was back on after a mile or two. Hope it is just a sensor but I suspect I have a leak somewhere.
Looks like I have a job for the weekend!
nobrakes said:
derin100 said:
callahan said:
I waved goodbye to my Boxster this evening, so the hunt for a replacement estate car really ramps up - the more thread (but reliable) the better!
How about a wrong fuel but decent engine E320: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Looks good...advert sounds good...possibly the sort of vendor with knowledge that you want.How about a wrong fuel but decent engine E320: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
(7G ‘box? Not so sure it’s a 7 speed as that infers)
Worthers gold/metallic beige per ultimate barge spec.
Some won’t touch that era, but you could do a lot worse.
Other detractions - it's the pre-facelift model, it's got (slight) paint issues, there's that horribly tacky AMG badging on the cubbyhole cover.......a £1500 offer, I'd say.
Stegel said:
derin100 said:
One of my questions to the vendor was regarding an oil leak advisory in the MOT history that I looked up yesterday. That was noted a few years back but then not in later MOTs. So, either it's the usual weep that you get via those engine's head-gasket which then might have been rectified with the later, modified gasket or subsequent MOT testers have chosen to ignore it?
Derin, for information (I am in no way trying to put you off such a lovely car) my E320 has oil all over the lower part of the engine, and with the tighter MOT I thought I’d better get it up in the air and take a look. There’s no mention of head gasket replacement in the car’s history, but I think it probably has been done by 163k miles. It could be my car has played the joker and has the full suite of potential leaks, but so far:
It’s leaking oil from the join between engine block and oil filter housing, so I’ve now got a new gasket to fit there.
The front crank seal appears responsible for the worst oil leak, so I’ve got a new Elring standard seal, but am now wondering if I should get a “repair” seal in before I take the thing apart.
One of the hoses to the ATF cooler was weeping ATF, so new hoses and pipe waiting to go in.
The timing chain cover is leaking, and while I’ve got a new (and apparently improved) Elring gasket it is apparently a bit of a bugger to sort.
The cam solenoid is leaking, but I do have the anaerobic sealant already thanks to the SL having the same issue.
There’s a weep from the steering box, so while I bought a cheap rebuild kit, I’m not sure I will do that and will probably clean it up and hope for the best.
Unrelated to oil, the water pump is leaking, with coolant all over the A/C compressor, so new pump and hoses going on (together with thermostat and, as its original rad is tired and the aluminium fins are falling apart, a new radiator).
None of the above is particularly costly (water pump and radiator the biggest items) but what started as a five minute poke around has turned into a few weekends work when I can find the time. The wiring loom swap was a piece of cake compared to some of those items!
Edited by Stegel on Friday 22 March 08:02
Oh Gosh! That's a lot of leaks.
We used to have an S124 with that 3.2L engine and that did leak a bit of oil and it wasn't cured by replacing the head-gasket.
longblackcoat said:
nobrakes said:
derin100 said:
callahan said:
I waved goodbye to my Boxster this evening, so the hunt for a replacement estate car really ramps up - the more thread (but reliable) the better!
How about a wrong fuel but decent engine E320: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Looks good...advert sounds good...possibly the sort of vendor with knowledge that you want.How about a wrong fuel but decent engine E320: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
(7G ‘box? Not so sure it’s a 7 speed as that infers)
Worthers gold/metallic beige per ultimate barge spec.
Some won’t touch that era, but you could do a lot worse.
Other detractions - it's the pre-facelift model, it's got (slight) paint issues, there's that horribly tacky AMG badging on the cubbyhole cover.......a £1500 offer, I'd say.
Salmonofdoubt said:
V70R with the best interior and possibly a good history for just over thread.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1058774
andy43 said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
V70R with the best interior and possibly a good history for just over thread.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1058774
Krikkit said:
longblackcoat said:
nobrakes said:
derin100 said:
callahan said:
I waved goodbye to my Boxster this evening, so the hunt for a replacement estate car really ramps up - the more thread (but reliable) the better!
How about a wrong fuel but decent engine E320: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Looks good...advert sounds good...possibly the sort of vendor with knowledge that you want.How about a wrong fuel but decent engine E320: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
(7G ‘box? Not so sure it’s a 7 speed as that infers)
Worthers gold/metallic beige per ultimate barge spec.
Some won’t touch that era, but you could do a lot worse.
Other detractions - it's the pre-facelift model, it's got (slight) paint issues, there's that horribly tacky AMG badging on the cubbyhole cover.......a £1500 offer, I'd say.
It will have the 7G box. With regards V6 vs I6, we have two V6s with more miles than that one - ok, one has had a new turbo and one a new intake manifold, but they’re free of the “Black Death” which supposedly affects the I6 cars. They do struggle to match the early cars’ supposed economy, but perhaps that’s due to driving style.
Is the rear end rather low on that car?
Stegel said:
Taste is a matter of taste re the full facelift! It is indeed a halfway house, which ran for about a year. I had a similar age E220 from new for a year and it didn’t miss a beat, contrary to tales of electrical meltdown from the off for early cars.
It will have the 7G box. With regards V6 vs I6, we have two V6s with more miles than that one - ok, one has had a new turbo and one a new intake manifold, but they’re free of the “Black Death” which supposedly affects the I6 cars. They do struggle to match the early cars’ supposed economy, but perhaps that’s due to driving style.
Is the rear end rather low on that car?
Black death is an easy enough fix of course - I sorted an injector on mine in a couple of hours once I had the appropriate pulling tool for the injector. Easier than an inlet manifold and/or turbo change.It will have the 7G box. With regards V6 vs I6, we have two V6s with more miles than that one - ok, one has had a new turbo and one a new intake manifold, but they’re free of the “Black Death” which supposedly affects the I6 cars. They do struggle to match the early cars’ supposed economy, but perhaps that’s due to driving style.
Is the rear end rather low on that car?
My very early car hasn't had any unjustified electrical troubles, the two it's had have been caused by a duff alternator rectifier and a dead SBC/auxiliary battery.
I think the rear is a bit low on that car for a steel sprung one - I'm used to looking at the airmatic ones self-levelling and don't think about it.
Krikkit said:
Stegel said:
Taste is a matter of taste re the full facelift! It is indeed a halfway house, which ran for about a year. I had a similar age E220 from new for a year and it didn’t miss a beat, contrary to tales of electrical meltdown from the off for early cars.
It will have the 7G box. With regards V6 vs I6, we have two V6s with more miles than that one - ok, one has had a new turbo and one a new intake manifold, but they’re free of the “Black Death” which supposedly affects the I6 cars. They do struggle to match the early cars’ supposed economy, but perhaps that’s due to driving style.
Is the rear end rather low on that car?
Black death is an easy enough fix of course - I sorted an injector on mine in a couple of hours once I had the appropriate pulling tool for the injector. Easier than an inlet manifold and/or turbo change.It will have the 7G box. With regards V6 vs I6, we have two V6s with more miles than that one - ok, one has had a new turbo and one a new intake manifold, but they’re free of the “Black Death” which supposedly affects the I6 cars. They do struggle to match the early cars’ supposed economy, but perhaps that’s due to driving style.
Is the rear end rather low on that car?
My very early car hasn't had any unjustified electrical troubles, the two it's had have been caused by a duff alternator rectifier and a dead SBC/auxiliary battery.
I think the rear is a bit low on that car for a steel sprung one - I'm used to looking at the airmatic ones self-levelling and don't think about it.
I'd straight-swap it for a similar older I6 without a moment's hesitation.
(I don't believe for a second that the seller gets 57mpg on the motorway.)
SpeckledJim said:
I don't believe for a second that the seller gets 57mpg on the motorway.
Even on the fractionally more frugal I6 I've only seen 50mpg once, from hot, at a gentle 50mph potter down some A-roads.High 40s are possible on a good run from cold, I managed 48 on the dash (generally correct) from Lincs->Lancs last year at a 70mph cruise with 50mph average past Leeds etc for about 20 miles.
But, going away from the 3-pointed star, I'm quite taken by this sub-thread budget (before tittivation) E39 tourer. Seems like an honest seller, and will come with 12 months MOT for the asking. £950.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I know it's the inferior 523i, but it sounds like a sweet engine for pottering.
Edited by Krikkit on Friday 22 March 12:13
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