Van driver narrowly avoids cyclist

[saaby93]

TheRainMaker said:

What would have happened if a car had pulled out on a bike doing 30 mph from a distance of 50 meters and then drove at 10 mph?

Lets see if I get sucked into this
Rather than a car take a tractor
The van could easily have done the same thing, tucked in behind - waargh it's going far slower than I thought, undertaken it and carried on
A tractors bigger than a bike though, so may not be a fair comparison

[saaby93]

Integroo said:

Byker28i said:

Possible a subject for a separate thread, but is it time to ban cyclists from major roads?

There's usually a MAMIL (Middle-aged Man In Lycra) holding up traffic on A roads these days, especially when the Tour de France is on.
Even when you get past, they catch up at traffic lights, ride the pavement to get to the front of the queue and hold everyone up again.

You can usually find them riding in the middle of the road, because it's safest (not in the gutter - I get that) and then gesturing when you overtake because you hadn't given them the space they deemed appropriate, despite the fact you've passed as far as possible on the other side of the road.

Heaven help you if you come across a calamity, sorry peleton, of weekend riders, two or three abreast. "We've got every right to be here, we've got cameras you know" as they ride blocking NSL roads at 10-15mph.

So an easier life for everyone. Cyclists can't ride on major roads unless there's a bike lane, thus avoiding the major cause of friction. Less interaction at speed means less accidents, less reasons for cyclists/motorists to complain. With the major roads freed up, drivers will be more tolerant when coming across riders on minor roads.

Sorted.

Right, now about antisocial Horse Riders

We could just ban knob heads like you from the road, would make life better for everyone.

Why not just ban everything - the roads would work just fine then

Actually for the most part they do work fine
Maybe this 'incident' would not even have occurred if it wasnt for a pair of dashcams

[saaby93]

Integroo said:

Terzo123 said:

Randy Winkman said:

Sorry to join in late. Van driver wasn't observing properly and assumed nothing was "in the way" when he changed lanes cos he didn't see anything big. Sun in his eyes didn't help. Cyclist was already in the lane way before van driver needed to make the switch. If van driver was paying attention there was loads of room for him to get in the lane and make the turn as well.

This all day long.

Van driver not paying attention/distracted. Goes to pull into filter lane, notices bike very late and swerves around. No body is hurt. Bikers feelings are upset as the nasty police won't do anything. The world keeps spinning. The end.

The point is when we take this attitude behaviours don't change and cyclists are killed.

In the last week:

91 year old cyclist killed on dual carriageway: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...

Police name Hull cyclist killed in collision with truck: http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/police-name-hu...

Hundreds ride to funeral of cyclist killed in NI: http://road.cc/content/news/226104-video-hundreds-...

Here we go - just for you and your posting style
Strawman
Have a look what youve linked and compare it to this thread
Any other link youd like to post up and say here's some apples to go with your pears?
No maybe not - post them in another thread. I opened one for the last already

[saaby93]

Integroo said:

Cyclists being killed by inattentive drivers (well, the last two are being investigated, but the first certainly appears to be the driver who is at fault).

Exactly what this thread is about.

talk about jumping the gun and playing another strawman card and how can you say the first one is the driver?
Didnt the article say no-one has been arrested.

Here's the thread about the collision on the NI club run
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
if you'd like to post something useful in it.

[saaby93]

M-SportMatt said:

Its bloody obvious to me the van driver was being an antagonistic prat looking to intimidate the cyclist.

and you ( or someone else ) could say the same about the cyclist re the van
and it may have neither's intention at all

Ease up a bit and try to see it's not all about confrontation

Edited by saaby93 on Friday 21st July 16:46

[saaby93]

M-SportMatt said:

Apart from the fact the cyclist left enough room in front and behind to not inconvenience the van at all then yes your statement is true

and presumably the van left enough room not to inconvenience the bike
Is it helpful to take polar points of view, why not try to put yourself in either shoes to try understand what happened

[saaby93]

for goodness take can the bickerers stop taking a pop at each other and get a room for a love in

[saaby93]

cb1965 said:

mybrainhurts said:

cb1965 said:

WinstonWolf said:

saaby93 said:

for goodness take can the bickerers stop taking a pop at each other and get a room for a love in

Don't start contentious threads then

But winding up the sanctimonious self righteous self absorbed blinkered pro cycling ****s like you is so much fun!

Ooof, brutal....

But fair....

I am joking really, but he has no capacity for humour

Of course he has- that reply to my tank wasnt bad
Just take people for what they are, and dont let it bother you

[saaby93]

BGarside said:

The only way a cyclist can survive in this sthole of a country is to assume that every driver is either an incompetent ignorant cretin or an aggressive moron trying to kill them.

Oi- the country's ok it would work just fine if there were no people
As for surviving and watching out for other road users as idiots and out to kill you that's always been a useful mantra whatever mode youre using.
Besides, in most circumstances if you look around, you can soon work out who is the idiot. If you cant see one, keep quiet

[saaby93]

Ares said:

Those who ride take issue with some drivers seemingly trying to kill them.
Those who don't ride think those that do are a scourge of the roads and are always in the wrong/should be banned.

Anyone who is neither didn't notice this thread get onto it's 2nd page.

Wrong
Its about numpty road users including numpty drivers and numpty cyclists
When the two meet we get a long thread
Most drivers and most cyclists dont warrant a thread

[saaby93]

frisbee said:

cb1965 said:

Oh here's another tt turning up the melodrama. No one tried to kill anyone you cretin!

Did your parents make you ride your sister's hand me down bike when you were growing up or something?

can you two try keep to the topic rather than taking pop at other posters

[saaby93]

Integroo said:

Is this still going?

yes Ares kicked off this latest spat with a questionable second sentence ( at least)

Integroo said:

Think both sides of this argument might just need to accept that the other isn't going to change their mind.

Lucky there's a middle ground between the two sides

[saaby93]

Ares said:

Second sentence?

You don't think this is a the root cause:

Those who ride take issue with some drivers seemingly trying to kill them.
Those who don't ride think those that do are a scourge of the roads and are always in the wrong/should be banned.

Thats summarises the two sides of the argument.

No theyre two angles from the same side
Try again with the second of those two and you might manage it

[saaby93]

Ares said:

I wasn't implying anything. I stated it.

When I cycle, I take issue that some drivers actions put my life in danger.

I'm also perfectly aware that some non-riders (i.e., non cycling drivers) just see cyclists as the scourge of the roads.

Better
add another some and youre there