RE: VW Tiguan R testing
Discussion
Well the lease on my Golf R estate will be up in 2020. By then my now 13, 10 & 9 yr old kids will be 16, 13 & 12. By the end of the nex lease they'll be 19, 16, 15. A Golf R will realistically be too small. I was thinking Skoda Octavia VRS or Volvo XC60 T6 for the next fast bus, but this is very interesting if the price is right. I'd need a big car with a good sized boot for family holidays and dog / bike transportation that goes nice and quick. This ticks all the boxes. There is a big sector of the public that would be all over this. Just because the current Tiguan seems to be bought by mums and Bert and Doris doesn't mean that if a hot version existed it wouldn't sell. I'll watch this space with interest.
HardMiles said:
...From VW the parts bin specialists...
The hate is strong with you, but at least you understand German history and the very idea behind the company. Using the big shared parts bin creates economy of scale and makes for cars in every niche without the need for huge R&D costs.tigger1 said:
Sorry, I'm calling b
ks on the fuel efficiency figures you're giving there. Long-term on the equivalent 4wd Q5 a family member has had ~50mpg out of theirs, and I know of at least 2 new (190bhp 4wd auto) Q5s giving over 45mpg. Claiming bks figures doesn't make your argument stronger. Fair enough, you don't like a diesel SUV (neither do I, particular), but some folk will and there's nothing inherently wrong with that choice.
You're right. I'm one of those people who would consider a Tiguan R as I currently have an SQ5.ks on the fuel efficiency figures you're giving there. Long-term on the equivalent 4wd Q5 a family member has had ~50mpg out of theirs, and I know of at least 2 new (190bhp 4wd auto) Q5s giving over 45mpg. Claiming bks figures doesn't make your argument stronger. Fair enough, you don't like a diesel SUV (neither do I, particular), but some folk will and there's nothing inherently wrong with that choice.I am currently enjoying 34-38mpg while using it for 'spirited' driving, so sub 40 from any other diesel SUV would surprise me, unless the 150bhp is underpowered and is struggling with the vehicle weight.
I bought the SQ5 because I needed space (kids and dog) and travel a huge number of miles. The only diesel estate car which comes close to the performance is the 335d, which is ugly and not as spacious.
Being an Audi S model (and diesel) it's not a 'halo' model, but in most normal driving it's plenty fast enough to see off most and more than capable enough for A/B road overtaking or cross country blasts.
mrnoisy78 said:
...yes it can go fast in a straight line, but it'll be sluggish for handling and braking due to its increased mass, and with speed cameras on nearly every fast M road in the country now, it's starting to look rather pointless for anything other than pub bragging rights.
Previous model SQ5 stopped quicker than RS4 even though it weighed 300kg more, so that comment is wrong. You've also obviously never driven a fast SUV... they are more than capable of exceeding speed limits on ANY road, so while they excel on M roads, A roads and B roads are perfectly good for mile munching in them.We have an F25 BMW X3 3.0d x drive m sport+ 253ps which is averaging 36mpg with mixed driving. It is plenty quick enough most of the time, although when 4 up and with luggage, performance is significantly impacted, and during these times, an extra 100bhp would not be overkill at all.. with this in mind I would consider such a car as the Tiguan
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