State of the used car market

State of the used car market

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Maz_uk

590 posts

200 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Very slow November done 10 deals, 1 making a loss 3 making over £2k net, rest average so down on our normal 20+ a month!

This month I'm yet to do a deal!

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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There's no doubt loads of people are cutting back on spending. Workshops are feeling the squeeze as well.

Red 4

10,744 posts

189 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Still plenty of dealers who don't want to do a deal and who price their cars at £daft

Surely a small profit is preferable to bugger all and having stock sat there for months and depreciating

The worst ones are based in the South of the country. I offered a fair price for a nearly new, minimal mileage car 3 months ago. No part ex involved. I was told no chance so bought another car pretty much identical to that one for £3k less elsewhere.

That car is still for sale with no price reduction.

MG CHRIS

9,092 posts

169 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Ozzie Osmond said:
There's no doubt loads of people are cutting back on spending. Workshops are feeling the squeeze as well.
The workshop part is true. Since the end of october its been quiet the big jobs nobody can afford so we see a lack of big engine jobs where people can't afford them. Service has been a lack of last year we were seeing atleast 6-7 service a week this year been lucky to get 4 a week. Most of our work seems to come from passing trade when there is a fault with the vehicle. We have seen a lack of mot aswel down to 3-4 a day when we normaly get 6-8 a day but mot work is constant so that is keeping us busy.

It normaly gets busier for use running up to december due to the colder weather having a effect on charging systems and water systems but this year warm weather we have not had the same faults.

Mayby when it does get colder we will get busier.


Wheelrepairit

2,912 posts

206 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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My company refurbishes alloys, most of our work is on second hand cars.

I've just done our invoicing for November , turned into not only our best ever november, but our 3rd best month in 9 yrs of trading.

Read into that what you want, either the dealers are selling loads, or not and are needing to make sure every car on the forecourt is spot on and tidy.

Or a mix of both

Fox-

13,263 posts

248 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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POORCARDEALER said:
One thing we are finding is many buyers do not have the money to buy a car. They are borrowing off relations, cashing in ISAS and the like.
Bizarre thing to say, if somebody has an ISA they can cash in they very obviously *do* have the money to buy a car. I mean where else are people going to keep £6k in spare cash if not in an ISA, in a box under the bed?

Deva Link

26,934 posts

247 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Sifly said:
Theres always a demand for cheap cars, but with them usually comes hassel and grief with people expecting an immaculate 12 year old car for £600!
We do seem to have bonkers low pricing on used cars in the UK though - colleagues from mainland Europe are amazed at our prices.

One of our guys bought an S80 in the middle of the year with a 160Km on it (try selling a 100K mile car here) and was thrilled to have got it for €11K. We found similar cars in Autotrader for £4-5K.

Perhaps it's the economic situation, but I think new cars are starting to "feel" very expensive again.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

247 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Fox- said:
Bizarre thing to say, if somebody has an ISA they can cash in they very obviously *do* have the money to buy a car. I mean where else are people going to keep £6k in spare cash if not in an ISA, in a box under the bed?
It's considered to be a last resort to cash an ISA as you can't put the money back again until next year so the tax free allowance (for the year when the money was first put in) has been lost for ever.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Deva Link said:
low pricing on used cars in the UK though - colleagues from mainland Europe are amazed at our prices.
I've always thought it must be good old British snobbishness and trying to look better off then the neighbours. The money some people spend changing relatively ordinary cars every couple of years never ceases to amaze me.

Deva Link said:
I think new cars are starting to "feel" very expensive again.
Yes, list prices have IMO risen sharply over the last few years especially on the higher range stuff. Seems to me that a "flash" car used to be £50k but has jumped to £70k. And the £125k sports car now costs £180k.

POORCARDEALER

8,528 posts

243 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Fox- said:
POORCARDEALER said:
One thing we are finding is many buyers do not have the money to buy a car. They are borrowing off relations, cashing in ISAS and the like.
Bizarre thing to say, if somebody has an ISA they can cash in they very obviously *do* have the money to buy a car. I mean where else are people going to keep £6k in spare cash if not in an ISA, in a box under the bed?
We normally arnt waiting for customers to take delivery for weeks after taking an order, seems they are cashing in stuff they wouldn't have had to in the past, or borrowing off relations, not just going to the bank or paying by debit card a few days after placing an order.


milner993

1,314 posts

164 months

Sunday 11th December 2011
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last year was not so bad as we had the vat increase but this December is difficult sitting on a handful of deals not making much money new cars has fallen but we have not failed to reach target in the last 6 years and should hit it again this quarter but its been an uphill struggle used cars well anything 4x4 is selling fast and you £4995 vehicles but still sitting on 90day stock with no margin left.

The recession will end and I can enjoy deals after deals again I hope

IrrElephant

30,522 posts

162 months

Sunday 11th December 2011
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milner993 said:
The recession will end and I can enjoy deals after deals again I hope
Amen.