RE: PH Service History: Eastern Promise
Discussion
I know that Evo II is low mileage, but £85k? Really? As a friend just emailed me, there was a red, lowish miles Evo II for sale where the advertised price dropped to £39k, and at that I wouldn’t be afraid to use it.
Which is the problem to me. If the new owner starts using this example then it zooms become the same as any other example, and the extra ££££ spent on it will disappear. So do I buy it, and keep it locked away in the hope it will appreciate further, or do I buy a painting by a well-known artist and hang it on my wall to gaze longingly at? (Hope people understand that similie?)
Which is the problem to me. If the new owner starts using this example then it zooms become the same as any other example, and the extra ££££ spent on it will disappear. So do I buy it, and keep it locked away in the hope it will appreciate further, or do I buy a painting by a well-known artist and hang it on my wall to gaze longingly at? (Hope people understand that similie?)
rtz62 said:
I know that Evo II is low mileage, but £85k? Really? As a friend just emailed me, there was a red, lowish miles Evo II for sale where the advertised price dropped to £39k, and at that I wouldn’t be afraid to use it.
Which is the problem to me. If the new owner starts using this example then it zooms become the same as any other example, and the extra ££££ spent on it will disappear. So do I buy it, and keep it locked away in the hope it will appreciate further, or do I buy a painting by a well-known artist and hang it on my wall to gaze longingly at? (Hope people understand that similie?)
why has it not got Evo headlights or were Japanese spec cars different? Which is the problem to me. If the new owner starts using this example then it zooms become the same as any other example, and the extra ££££ spent on it will disappear. So do I buy it, and keep it locked away in the hope it will appreciate further, or do I buy a painting by a well-known artist and hang it on my wall to gaze longingly at? (Hope people understand that similie?)
MuscleSaloon said:
" Japanese examples often seem to have avoided the chunky mileages that many of the cars you'll see for sale over here have done "
Cause none ever in history got a haircut on the way over
I was in Chiba for new year visiting the in-laws. We borrowed their '08 Auris to go to the seaside; on the way there, the odo ticked over 17,000 kilometers. It's still running three of its original tyres.Cause none ever in history got a haircut on the way over
Even when I lived there and used my Silvia to explore the country, just to go for a drive on weekends, and went driving with the locals, as well as being in a rural town where everything was a drive away, I struggled to do more than about 5,000 miles in the year.
If you browse the mileages at auctions, you can see plenty more old cars with mileages that look low by our standards. Guess what, it's a different country, things are different there. The roads tend to be windier, because it's properly mountainous, so an hour's drive covers less distance. The motorways are tolled, like France. By contrast, the public transport is excellent, so you just wouldn't drive from Tokyo to Osaka when it's so much quicker and easier to take the bullet train.
Now, I'm not denying that some Japanese cars do rack up high mileages; but the explanation for the majority of low mileage cars out of Japan is simply that the previous owners didn't drive them that much, by our standards.
http://internationalcomparisons.org/environment/tr...
So sure, keep your wits about you, but don't be suspicious in a way that's entirely unjustified by the facts.
Can someone explain to me why Jap Market 928 GTS's have those horrible add-ons on the arches? The 928 GTS's for the rest of the world have flared arches, but done properly with the actual front/rear wings actually flared....it's always the Jap Market ones which seem to have Halford add-ons which basically makes them look like a normal S4 with some plastic added.
A nice article but a bunch of stuff can be questioned.
Just because Jap stuff is low mileage and had Shakens doesn't mean much. Shakens are no stricter than an MOT when you dig deep. In some instances they are looser ; 4.5% CO limit on most cars anyone? We only give those kind of limits for cars made before 1975....
Then there are mechanics. The Japanese love keeping their cars shiny, but they don't like old cars. They hate repairing them even more. The amount of people who can tinker with their old cars in Japan is about the same number who can speak English over there (i.e Nil). That makes mechanics quite extortionately priced and probably harder to find a good garage than us UKers do over here ; smaller numbers after all.
That means the cars can sit over there without a Shaken for quite some time.
I say that from me buying a low mileage Japanese car last year and a few friends doing the same ; almost all have had some work done once they came back, one had a rebuild despite a good 'inspection' sheet.
I'll get the story of someone else's take later (NikDaGreek for those wondering) and a great article I saw from a US bloke who lived in Japan and dispelled many myths. The article rang true.
Just because Jap stuff is low mileage and had Shakens doesn't mean much. Shakens are no stricter than an MOT when you dig deep. In some instances they are looser ; 4.5% CO limit on most cars anyone? We only give those kind of limits for cars made before 1975....
Then there are mechanics. The Japanese love keeping their cars shiny, but they don't like old cars. They hate repairing them even more. The amount of people who can tinker with their old cars in Japan is about the same number who can speak English over there (i.e Nil). That makes mechanics quite extortionately priced and probably harder to find a good garage than us UKers do over here ; smaller numbers after all.
That means the cars can sit over there without a Shaken for quite some time.
I say that from me buying a low mileage Japanese car last year and a few friends doing the same ; almost all have had some work done once they came back, one had a rebuild despite a good 'inspection' sheet.
I'll get the story of someone else's take later (NikDaGreek for those wondering) and a great article I saw from a US bloke who lived in Japan and dispelled many myths. The article rang true.
TooMany2cvs said:
About a quarter of the Japanese population is proficient in English above basic communication.
They must all be abroad or based in offices. The few I people I know who lived there couldn't find anyone ; you were very much "on your own" in comparison to say Cuba or Europe. I do love an armchair statisticianhttps://oppositelock.kinja.com/owning-a-car-in-jap...
As I said, my 1975 Carina had zero rust but it needed some mechanical work over here, enough to make the previous seller give up and Nik Da Greek who was very much at the forefront of the RX-7 world found a similar thing, most RX-7s are junk from over there without spending a fortune on importing the best, as in almost £17k I'd have thought now ; that figure was closer to £12k during 2009! My R30 Skyline friends have also had varying experiences, but far from hassle free with ownership.
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