Will cars ever stop getting bigger and heavier?!

[Funk]

simoid said:

E30 M3 to 1M

Indeed:

[Dave Hedgehog]

Funk said:

simoid said:

E30 M3 to 1M

Indeed:

wow, i am shocked at how fat the 1M is !

[Debaser]

Some cars are getting lighter.

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/range-ro...

[Pints]

b0rk said:

Ummm the mk5 polo is larger than a mk4... so not sure how it can look lighter. In actual fact the car is lighter but not smaller.
The same is true for mk6 golf vs mk5 the current car is larger (slightly) than the previous.

The weight reductions will IHMO be down to the use of high strength steel to reduce overall steel thickness and engine development work.

Read them off a data sheet then yes, but their dimensions - when looking at them parked in the street - don't have that effect.
Similarly, two cars can have similar 0-60 times, but one might just feel that much quicker when driven. It's called perception. Not everything comes down to numbers you can reel off to your mates in the pub.

[Pints]

StevieB said:

Urban Sports said:

Pints said:

Have just checked this and it would appear I was correct.

Golf
mk6: 1299kg
mk5: 1451kg

Polo
mk5: 1057kg
mk4: 1095kg

Like for like models? I find that surprising with the Golf.

Hmm, I think you are wrong about the GOlf, take the GTI. These are the "as weighed figures," taken by Autocar. I have both road tests, sadly..

Mk5- 1411,
Mk6- 1420 (both 3 door models)

As for the XJ, did you know that the one tested and weighted by Autocar was 1960kgs. Not much better than a 7 series.

My theory is this. Although the base models may be getting slightly lighter, all the optional extra crap is getting more comprehensive so by the time your typical 320d sport on optional wheels with gismos is weighed, it is heavier than the older less well spec'd car. I believe the 911, as tested by Autocar next week will end up heavier than the old model they tested, which was 1420 KGs...lets see if Im right!!

However, Madza are thankfully getting their models lighter. Lets hope others follow....

Edited by StevieB on Thursday 1st March 17:07

Edited by StevieB on Thursday 1st March 17:08

Not wrong, it seems we just used different cars to compare. My weights were based on the 2.0TDI 3dr for the Golf.

[Dave Hedgehog]

Pints said:

Not wrong, it seems we just used different cars to compare. My weights were based on the 2.0TDI 3dr for the Golf.

oil burners dont count, there not real cars