RE: Renaultsport Megane 275 Cup-S | PH Fleet
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charlestdci said:
To offer some balance, I've just sold my 265 Cup after 6 years of ownership. Only "fault" in this time was a battery replacement but we should probably regard this sort of thing as a consumable.
Cost of regular maintenance is a little on the high side for a hot hatch I think (£800 approx for belts, water pump and dephaser, £800 approx for OEM disc and pad replacement).
It was still on the original clutch at 62000 miles. Overall, I'd say my ownership experience was reasonable, from a reliability & maintenance point of view.
Seems stupidly expensive to me, even compared to my BMW Z4M Coupe. I got new big end shells and engine mounts for £1,000 at 78K miles that will last at least as long again - unlike the Renault cam-belt.Cost of regular maintenance is a little on the high side for a hot hatch I think (£800 approx for belts, water pump and dephaser, £800 approx for OEM disc and pad replacement).
It was still on the original clutch at 62000 miles. Overall, I'd say my ownership experience was reasonable, from a reliability & maintenance point of view.
A gearbox issue at 39K miles suggests the power-train is less than robust!
Did that Service Plan work out? I just tried it & it did not work on a low miles 66 plate Cup-S.
I found it online. Seems very specific about whats included & no mention of belts.
Still worth it I would say even for a non-belts service/MOT & warranty.
Only other thig to watch if you dont do many miles is Service interval is 2yr or 12k. I only got 2 services in my 4 yr service plan.
I found it online. Seems very specific about whats included & no mention of belts.
Still worth it I would say even for a non-belts service/MOT & warranty.
Only other thig to watch if you dont do many miles is Service interval is 2yr or 12k. I only got 2 services in my 4 yr service plan.
Itsallicanafford said:
Dropped the CUP-S off at Renault for a service today, my ears did prick up when i was offered a Renault service plan for £39.99 a month, including service, MOT and a Warranty....
Rushed back to the car and took off all the Track day stickers
That's excellent value. £50 MOT / £215 service / £215 warranty.Rushed back to the car and took off all the Track day stickers
But does the service includes belt / dephaser?
Any limits or excess on the warranty?
Mr Tidy said:
charlestdci said:
To offer some balance, I've just sold my 265 Cup after 6 years of ownership. Only "fault" in this time was a battery replacement but we should probably regard this sort of thing as a consumable.
Cost of regular maintenance is a little on the high side for a hot hatch I think (£800 approx for belts, water pump and dephaser, £800 approx for OEM disc and pad replacement).
It was still on the original clutch at 62000 miles. Overall, I'd say my ownership experience was reasonable, from a reliability & maintenance point of view.
Seems stupidly expensive to me, even compared to my BMW Z4M Coupe. I got new big end shells and engine mounts for £1,000 at 78K miles that will last at least as long again - unlike the Renault cam-belt.Cost of regular maintenance is a little on the high side for a hot hatch I think (£800 approx for belts, water pump and dephaser, £800 approx for OEM disc and pad replacement).
It was still on the original clutch at 62000 miles. Overall, I'd say my ownership experience was reasonable, from a reliability & maintenance point of view.
A gearbox issue at 39K miles suggests the power-train is less than robust!
Access isn't great for the belts hence the high labour charge.Horses for courses.
Zarco said:
Mr Tidy said:
charlestdci said:
To offer some balance, I've just sold my 265 Cup after 6 years of ownership. Only "fault" in this time was a battery replacement but we should probably regard this sort of thing as a consumable.
Cost of regular maintenance is a little on the high side for a hot hatch I think (£800 approx for belts, water pump and dephaser, £800 approx for OEM disc and pad replacement).
It was still on the original clutch at 62000 miles. Overall, I'd say my ownership experience was reasonable, from a reliability & maintenance point of view.
Seems stupidly expensive to me, even compared to my BMW Z4M Coupe. I got new big end shells and engine mounts for £1,000 at 78K miles that will last at least as long again - unlike the Renault cam-belt.Cost of regular maintenance is a little on the high side for a hot hatch I think (£800 approx for belts, water pump and dephaser, £800 approx for OEM disc and pad replacement).
It was still on the original clutch at 62000 miles. Overall, I'd say my ownership experience was reasonable, from a reliability & maintenance point of view.
A gearbox issue at 39K miles suggests the power-train is less than robust!
Access isn't great for the belts hence the high labour charge.Horses for courses.
Only kidding.
Z4M is a car I would like to have.
But there are pro's & cons for most cars for sure.
This post was started with a list of bills mostly maintenance that came at the same time as a reliability problem.
Most people on this forum I am sure could have an equivalent or worse story. Dont get me started on my N53 3.0i BMW engine.
Z4M is a car I would like to have.
But there are pro's & cons for most cars for sure.
This post was started with a list of bills mostly maintenance that came at the same time as a reliability problem.
Most people on this forum I am sure could have an equivalent or worse story. Dont get me started on my N53 3.0i BMW engine.
PJ_Parsons said:
Is the gearbox repair a once in the lifetime of the car kind of job? Or, is it fundamentally flawed? You'd think car manufacturers would know how to make a good gearbox by now.
Had mine done under warranty on around 20k (output bearing failure IIRC). Now on 45k. Rather hoping it's a one off! A few other bits have worn out but given the performance it's not bad in my opinion.I'm planning to sell the car next year. Had it since 2017. It's suited my needs very well.
I don't think Renault are great with gearboxes. Had a similar bearing failure on my 172 Cup 13yrs ago.
nickfrog said:
Itsallicanafford said:
Dropped the CUP-S off at Renault for a service today, my ears did prick up when i was offered a Renault service plan for £39.99 a month, including service, MOT and a Warranty....
Rushed back to the car and took off all the Track day stickers
That's excellent value. £50 MOT / £215 service / £215 warranty.Rushed back to the car and took off all the Track day stickers
But does the service includes belt / dephaser?
Any limits or excess on the warranty?
WayOutWest said:
I ordered a 265, which then changed to a 275 midway through the wait, and the consensus at the time was that the Megane was pretty bulletproof and had gradually evolved through 250/265/275 with any minor niggles sorted out. But it seems they introduced some new ones. I sold my 275 at under 2 years old and only a few thousand miles so nothing had time to break.
Would I have another? Probably not. It was a fantastic drivers car, and one of the best cars I've owned in some ways, but if I needed space and practicality I'd go for an RS Megane 280/300 - still the best looking 5 door hot hatch on sale imo - and if not, roll the dice on a used Cayman, which will probably cost even more to maintain if you're unlucky, but hey, it's a Porsche.
Interesting thing is they carried over the gearbox to the new model. As far as I understand the were no revisions, but I’m not a 100% sure. Would I have another? Probably not. It was a fantastic drivers car, and one of the best cars I've owned in some ways, but if I needed space and practicality I'd go for an RS Megane 280/300 - still the best looking 5 door hot hatch on sale imo - and if not, roll the dice on a used Cayman, which will probably cost even more to maintain if you're unlucky, but hey, it's a Porsche.
I’m also very temped to buy a Boxster or Cayman, higher risk but no doubt higher reward! Bar the GT4 I’m not sure which one of those or the Megane that would be the most fun on a track day though. A testament to how good the Megane is at 10/10ths if anything.
Save the manuals said:
Interesting thing is they carried over the gearbox to the new model. As far as I understand the were no revisions, but I’m not a 100% sure.
I’m also very temped to buy a Boxster or Cayman, higher risk but no doubt higher reward! Bar the GT4 I’m not sure which one of those or the Megane that would be the most fun on a track day though. A testament to how good the Megane is at 10/10ths if anything.
they are quite fun on track...I’m also very temped to buy a Boxster or Cayman, higher risk but no doubt higher reward! Bar the GT4 I’m not sure which one of those or the Megane that would be the most fun on a track day though. A testament to how good the Megane is at 10/10ths if anything.
I have a 2015 265 on 109k. Had it for a year. It was a motorway car doing 30k a year for the first few years, and it was totally standard. Only mod now is the mid box delete I had done.
I came from a 2009 CW FN2 which was faultless apart from sticking callipers and the fact the back axle was rotten. Roof rust had been fixed (was returning) and the insides of the doors were starting to rust and it was getting scabby beneath.
Meganes have their weak points. I bought mine, full renault history but basically nothing had been changed on it apart from obviously service items, so it had served its previous 2 owners well.
Very shortly after purchase I replaced two engine mounts and done a clutch damper delete.
I am not long after replacing a long list of items -
Two front shocks
Clutch
Flywheel
Crankshaft oil seal
Driveshaft seal
AUX belt kit
AC condenser
Both front droplinks
Coolant change
Front and rear pads
All genuine Renault parts (apart from the droplinks and AC condenser) and done the work myself. Was on its original clutch and flywheel. Still on its original swivels and balljoints.
Worth noting that Renault offer motrio and/or value plus service items alongside the original parts and these can be very competitively priced.
Just had the wheel alignment done and the car drives like new, I love it.
I came from a 2009 CW FN2 which was faultless apart from sticking callipers and the fact the back axle was rotten. Roof rust had been fixed (was returning) and the insides of the doors were starting to rust and it was getting scabby beneath.
Meganes have their weak points. I bought mine, full renault history but basically nothing had been changed on it apart from obviously service items, so it had served its previous 2 owners well.
Very shortly after purchase I replaced two engine mounts and done a clutch damper delete.
I am not long after replacing a long list of items -
Two front shocks
Clutch
Flywheel
Crankshaft oil seal
Driveshaft seal
AUX belt kit
AC condenser
Both front droplinks
Coolant change
Front and rear pads
All genuine Renault parts (apart from the droplinks and AC condenser) and done the work myself. Was on its original clutch and flywheel. Still on its original swivels and balljoints.
Worth noting that Renault offer motrio and/or value plus service items alongside the original parts and these can be very competitively priced.
Just had the wheel alignment done and the car drives like new, I love it.
Edited by rick293 on Tuesday 14th June 11:54
KPB1973 said:
I think people are jumping to the conclusion that these are inherently unreliable cars. In my experience at least, they're not. They're tough but relatively affordable, which will inevitably suffer if not maintained properly or on a skimped budget.
It was quite depressing chatting to a PHer about his Aventador out at Le Mans and that his running costs for the last two years have been half that of mine 
Renaultsports are fairly well known for requiring gearbox work, perhaps the 197/200 Clio is considered to be the worst. I'm hopeful that the gearbox rebuild is a one-time cost, now that it has uprated bearings fitted. Otherwise it's just a case of being unlucky/pedantic of wanting to change quite a few things at once/ahead of time.
Here's a breakdown of costs over the last two years, to help add a bit more colour:
| Item | Cost | Frequency |
| Tyres | £300 (pair) | Every 10k miles I expect |
| Servicing | £400 (two services at an indy including software update) | £150-200 every 12 months at an indy |
| Belts | £750 (includes fixing rocker cover oil leak) | Every six years although I changed early at five |
| Brakes | £600 (discs and pads all round) | Pretty sure they were on the factory brakes, so first time they've all been changed at 35-40k miles |
| Gearbox rebuild | £1200 | Hopefully a one off using uprated bearings |
| Crank seal leak, coolant pipe leak and clutch damper delete | £235 | Hopefully one off as above |
| Clutch kit and flywheel | £600 | I've seen cars over 100k miles on their original parts, but changed for piece of mind while the 'box was off |
| Front Brembo caliper rebuild | £200 (not essential but rubber was showing early signs of perishing) | Unknown |
So ultimately, £1,435 is hopefully one-off costs, with the others being routine/preventative maintenance. Will all of this work done, fingers crossed the next few years will just require routine servicing. As I always go over the top on maintenance and generally keep my cars for less than 12 months, it's always the next owner than benefits at my expense. When will I learn...
Ben Lowden said:
It was quite depressing chatting to a PHer about his Aventador out at Le Mans and that his running costs for the last two years have been half that of mine
Renaultsports are fairly well known for requiring gearbox work, perhaps the 197/200 Clio is considered to be the worst. I'm hopeful that the gearbox rebuild is a one-time cost, now that it has uprated bearings fitted. Otherwise it's just a case of being unlucky/pedantic of wanting to change quite a few things at once/ahead of time.
Here's a breakdown of costs over the last two years, to help add a bit more colour:
So ultimately, £1,435 is hopefully one-off costs, with the others being routine/preventative maintenance. Will all of this work done, fingers crossed the next few years will just require routine servicing. As I always go over the top on maintenance and generally keep my cars for less than 12 months, it's always the next owner than benefits at my expense. When will I learn...
Your crank seal was leaking early. That and rocker cover leaks are just F4R things. I don't think there is too many dry F4R's about. Renaultsports are fairly well known for requiring gearbox work, perhaps the 197/200 Clio is considered to be the worst. I'm hopeful that the gearbox rebuild is a one-time cost, now that it has uprated bearings fitted. Otherwise it's just a case of being unlucky/pedantic of wanting to change quite a few things at once/ahead of time.
Here's a breakdown of costs over the last two years, to help add a bit more colour:
| Item | Cost | Frequency |
| Tyres | £300 (pair) | Every 10k miles I expect |
| Servicing | £400 (two services at an indy including software update) | £150-200 every 12 months at an indy |
| Belts | £750 (includes fixing rocker cover oil leak) | Every six years although I changed early at five |
| Brakes | £600 (discs and pads all round) | Pretty sure they were on the factory brakes, so first time they've all been changed at 35-40k miles |
| Gearbox rebuild | £1200 | Hopefully a one off using uprated bearings |
| Crank seal leak, coolant pipe leak and clutch damper delete | £235 | Hopefully one off as above |
| Clutch kit and flywheel | £600 | I've seen cars over 100k miles on their original parts, but changed for piece of mind while the 'box was off |
| Front Brembo caliper rebuild | £200 (not essential but rubber was showing early signs of perishing) | Unknown |
So ultimately, £1,435 is hopefully one-off costs, with the others being routine/preventative maintenance. Will all of this work done, fingers crossed the next few years will just require routine servicing. As I always go over the top on maintenance and generally keep my cars for less than 12 months, it's always the next owner than benefits at my expense. When will I learn...
What coolant pipe was leaking? My electric water pump was leaking, I had to replace it.
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