RE: Pikes Peak: Monster Tajima goes electric
Discussion
cazzer said:
If there were no spectators there would be no tracks to race on.
The number of events I've attended where spectators are clearly an expensive annoyance (i.e. needing barriers, stewards/marshals, facilities etc) would suggest otherwise, entry fees alone cover the costs of many events. Visit somewhere like Silverstone outside of the 6 or 7 'halo' meetings and the paddock crew and families vastly outnumber paying spectators. Only a few circuits (such as Combe and Brands) can consistently bank on fairly solid spectator income.Quite a few rallies run completely out of sight of the public, as do various autotests, sprints etc. Even F1 could quite happily run in certain countries at closed circuits (in some places that's not far off reality anyway).
ukaskew said:
cazzer said:
If there were no spectators there would be no tracks to race on.
The number of events I've attended where spectators are clearly an expensive annoyance (i.e. needing barriers, stewards/marshals, facilities etc) would suggest otherwise, entry fees alone cover the costs of many events. Visit somewhere like Silverstone outside of the 6 or 7 'halo' meetings and the paddock crew and families vastly outnumber paying spectators. Only a few circuits (such as Combe and Brands) can consistently bank on fairly solid spectator income.Quite a few rallies run completely out of sight of the public, as do various autotests, sprints etc. Even F1 could quite happily run in certain countries at closed circuits (in some places that's not far off reality anyway).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18132389
The spectators decided they wanted to get close to the action so where did they stand???
The run off road, then they got mowed down when said car needed that road and they were in the way.
Im all for spectators, but they need to understand getting that close to the action and standing in the wrong place can cause fatalities like in this case.
I personally don't think electric cars will be interesting to watch swooshing up pikes peak. I want to watch / listen to a car howling it's way up the mountain with back fire, flames belting out of it.
I also couldnt give two hoots about technology as 'spoils' the fun. Example, driver aids etc etc.
Take early touring cars and early F1 for example. They used to have proper manual gear changes and no electronic aids to help them, it was proper driver control and if you missed a gear change, it cost you a place or two. F1 had traction control etc but it took the fun out of racing. I remember Jacques Villeneuve saying that he hated the traction control. F1 stopped traction control a short time later and Villeneuve said he wished they had stopped it when he was still racing.
Electric power is a show for what the future holds in manufacturer development for road cars. My opinion is that it has no place in motorsport as it's the atmosphere that makes it. Imagine electric touring cars wooshing down the straight and wooshng through a corner with only tyre squeel for effect? Utter pish.
I also couldnt give two hoots about technology as 'spoils' the fun. Example, driver aids etc etc.
Take early touring cars and early F1 for example. They used to have proper manual gear changes and no electronic aids to help them, it was proper driver control and if you missed a gear change, it cost you a place or two. F1 had traction control etc but it took the fun out of racing. I remember Jacques Villeneuve saying that he hated the traction control. F1 stopped traction control a short time later and Villeneuve said he wished they had stopped it when he was still racing.
Electric power is a show for what the future holds in manufacturer development for road cars. My opinion is that it has no place in motorsport as it's the atmosphere that makes it. Imagine electric touring cars wooshing down the straight and wooshng through a corner with only tyre squeel for effect? Utter pish.
Whilst I hate the thought of electric race cars too, its not so much because of the lack of the noise (though this is still a factor), but more because of the goddamn "Eco Friendly" UTTER BULLs
t. They arent more eco friendly, they use power thats most likely generated from a fossil fuel, they cause MASSIVE ecological destruction and pollution to make, and are a huge headache to dispose of after their (very short) life of all the battiers, heavy metal, circuit boards etc.
STOP PEDDLING THE LIES, CAR COMPAINES!!!!
t. They arent more eco friendly, they use power thats most likely generated from a fossil fuel, they cause MASSIVE ecological destruction and pollution to make, and are a huge headache to dispose of after their (very short) life of all the battiers, heavy metal, circuit boards etc.STOP PEDDLING THE LIES, CAR COMPAINES!!!!
mat777 said:
Whilst I hate the thought of electric race cars too, its not so much because of the lack of the noise (though this is still a factor), but more because of the goddamn "Eco Friendly" UTTER BULLst. They arent more eco friendly, they use power thats most likely generated from a fossil fuel, they cause MASSIVE ecological destruction and pollution to make, and are a huge headache to dispose of after their (very short) life of all the battiers, heavy metal, circuit boards etc.
STOP PEDDLING THE LIES, CAR COMPAINES!!!!
Yes and your cars were grown from seed in a fieldt. They arent more eco friendly, they use power thats most likely generated from a fossil fuel, they cause MASSIVE ecological destruction and pollution to make, and are a huge headache to dispose of after their (very short) life of all the battiers, heavy metal, circuit boards etc.STOP PEDDLING THE LIES, CAR COMPAINES!!!!
I think the difference between this and Le mans Diesels, is that the diesels (Dismals, anyone? 
) wouldn't actually better if it wasn't for rules, that basically allowed them the be completely uncompetitive, and basically cheat.
However this is balls out racing trying to find a better solution, rather than rule bending by what is possibly the most useless racing organizers...
) wouldn't actually better if it wasn't for rules, that basically allowed them the be completely uncompetitive, and basically cheat.However this is balls out racing trying to find a better solution, rather than rule bending by what is possibly the most useless racing organizers...
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