RE: Citroen need help making a C3 WRC

[Muhtanti]

Why not a car like the Subaru wrx sti or Evo I-VI? A rally car for the road? Boosted up engine (durable) with very good parts, a nice suspension and lightweight.

For me it needs: A nice turbo with lag but a huge punch (for this kind of car 200hp are enough but really don't give a sh. about fuel economy), 4x4 (for gods sake no fwd), a nice but not too hard suspension which is worth going off and on road, some nasty spoilers like the WRC car, and ofcourse not extremely expensive, 25k are more than enough.

[PunterCam]

The last thing it needs it a big turbo engine and ste 4wd system - it's a fking road car. There's enough of that pish already on the market.

Like the article says, light weight. Sub 1000kg with an exotic LSD and FWD, and a tweaked small turbo engine with around 150bhp, all at the top end. Light weight seats (no wky buckets), light weight dash, lots of tyre with not so much wheel, and a superb 6 speed manual. Make it with plenty of compromise - noisy exhaust but none of the tacky fake pops and bangs every car seems to have now. Keep it narrow. Sell it for a little under £20k.

[MustardCutter]

I think a lot of people missed the "she suggests it shouldn't be too extreme and far down the hot hatch scale" bit from the article

[Simon Owen]

Onehp said:

What I seriously miss in the market are small cars with SERIOUS suspension (well all cars except perhaps a Ford Raptor).

So something light and affordable as suggested before, minimal equipement, but some serious roadholding and WRC inspired suspension with lots of (negative) travel, hydraulic bump stops and dual spring rates that makes all other warm and hot hatch suspension look like antiquated unusable live axle blade spring suspension... and some big mudflaps so you don't mind taking it down some less clean roads...

Perfect !! A small lightweight car with pukka suspension, how cool would that be, aka Clio Trophy ? Currently loving the Ohlins on my Megane and drove a mates 7 at the w/e with high quality dampers & nicely specified progressive springs. I know the 7 is a superlight but oh what a joy to feel buttery compliant but controlled suspension !!

[Furyblade_Lee]

They can go 3 ways, an expensive turbo 4x4 with wild body kit ( fat chance ) or a lightweight affordable screamer a-la AXGT?? Personally I would love to see a DS3 with the full fat 200bhp motor , LSD, but in a super lightweight trim, lexan windows, optional none / half / full cage and rear seat delete in the style of a GT3 or 26R. FiA bucket seat / harness OR some nice reclining Recaro option. Make it capable down a B-road primarily so so trick remote reservoir dampers like a Clio Trophy? FiA cut out swich and extinguisher system as standard so it can be used out of the box for club motorsport / hill climbs etc. No sunroof, and only available in white.... If they get the thing light enough and fit genuine rally type wheels I think they would have an instant cult classic.

[The_Immortal]

jayemdoubleu said:

This could be a great opportunity to relaunch the Visa name...

Yes, we could allow it to stay in post brexit Britain for a limited time... presumably limited by how many Citroen manage to sell, which will be about 5... Or perhaps as soon as they realise that the target audience doesn't know or care about WRC and is more interested in snap chatting pictures of their private parts.

'Daz', 'Gav', 'Bazzer' etc. who still wake up at 4am to get a face full of gravel and urinate publicly will not be interested in a stickered-up shopping trolley because their banged out old Impreza will "DESTROY IT, MATE!"

WRC relevant to road cars? No wonder they don't know what to do.

[Mike348]

Most powerful Puretech engine, 130PS? High-quality suspension (Sachs, Ohlins etc.). 1000kg. Everything else secondary.

[Beamer70]