RE: One-owner Skoda Favorit for sale

RE: One-owner Skoda Favorit for sale

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samoht

5,833 posts

148 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
But still a correct usage today. Language evolves, and if something is used wrongly often enough, it eventually becomes right. Decimation is now ok to use to describe almost total or even total destruction.
I'm ok with language evolving.

However, according to you, the word 'decimated' can legitimately be understood to mean
a) a reduction of 10%
b) a reduction of 90%
c) a reduction of 90-100%
d) complete elimination

and in general there's no way of telling from the context, i.e. all the above are plausible meanings for the word in most sentences. So the reader has no way of knowing which of the above, quite different, meanings were intended.

Since the point of writing is to convey meaning, any sensible writer would on this basis avoid using the word 'decimation', since they have no way of knowing which meaning the reader will select.

Therefore to accept your proposition in this case, is to debase the term 'decimation' to the point where is it pretty much useless.

757

3,253 posts

113 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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Stick it in a Skoda dealership as a piece of motoring history to the brand, good talking point in a showroom - can't see if ever selling for that price.

donkmeister

8,410 posts

102 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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It would be interesting to know what it eventually sells for, and to what sort of person (Skoda enthusiast/collector, presumably).

The Favorit was quite successful in rallying... Say what you like about Skodas being joke cars for skinflints, but they do have some motorsport pedigree.

Fastchas

2,662 posts

123 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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Raydu said:
Wow! That is some mark up to what they gave me for it . Two owners not one. Strong money for a favorit.
So come on then, what did they give you for it?
I reckon a bag to £1500?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,771 posts

152 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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samoht said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
But still a correct usage today. Language evolves, and if something is used wrongly often enough, it eventually becomes right. Decimation is now ok to use to describe almost total or even total destruction.
I'm ok with language evolving.

However, according to you, the word 'decimated' can legitimately be understood to mean
a) a reduction of 10%
b) a reduction of 90%
c) a reduction of 90-100%
d) complete elimination
Not according to me. The OED says any of those are now acceptable. I think context helps. The news saying Allepo has been decimated by bombing, with pics of a flattened city. Or Roman decimation, which indeed was one in ten.

MattsCar

1,092 posts

107 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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Buying this car would be the motoring equivalent of self flagellation.


Jon_S_Rally

3,465 posts

90 months

Thursday 23rd December 2021
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samoht said:
I'm ok with language evolving.

However, according to you, the word 'decimated' can legitimately be understood to mean
a) a reduction of 10%
b) a reduction of 90%
c) a reduction of 90-100%
d) complete elimination

and in general there's no way of telling from the context, i.e. all the above are plausible meanings for the word in most sentences. So the reader has no way of knowing which of the above, quite different, meanings were intended.

Since the point of writing is to convey meaning, any sensible writer would on this basis avoid using the word 'decimation', since they have no way of knowing which meaning the reader will select.

Therefore to accept your proposition in this case, is to debase the term 'decimation' to the point where is it pretty much useless.
Isn't the word generally now? used in the context of b-d, rather than a? So, to most people, it would mean complete or near complete destruction.

As a professional wordsmith, I do find it strange that some seem so attached to the idea that language should somehow be fixed, or that the "rules" should be followed to the letter(!) every single time. While obviously there needs to be some level of standard applied, telling a good story (which is what these articles are about) does not require such fastidious rule-following and, in many cases, actually benefits from a bit of rule-bending.

Ultimately, this website is a fairly casual outlet for stories about cars. It's not an English textbook, so I don't think it actually matters very much.

daytonavrs

781 posts

86 months

Thursday 23rd December 2021
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Fastchas said:
Raydu said:
Wow! That is some mark up to what they gave me for it . Two owners not one. Strong money for a favorit.
So come on then, what did they give you for it?
I reckon a bag to £1500?
Bit of a difference between asking ( for sale) and getting ( sold ) and its currently in the fictional camp.

Be interesting to see if it does, or if its just a way to upsell on possible value. They could try for £3k and not get it or like this maybe advert at this amount, get bartered down closer to what they might like.
Helped along with a bit of "free" (or is it) extra PH marketering too doesn't hurt.

Personally for me its a no brainer "Hells No!" but go older and I'd be seriously tempted. How hard is it to trace a 130RS, seem to be like rocking horses to non existant ?

njw1

2,100 posts

113 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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I like the rocker cover.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,387 posts

213 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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I love it!

4.5k is a joke.

GrizzlyBear

1,077 posts

137 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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Good to see an old car in decent condition, however the price sums up the phrase "find another one..."

The only redeeming quality is the owner looked after it, so it is unusual.

If you use it as a daily, you would probably be better off with a 7 year old Kia/Hyundai for that price with fewer miles but much better parts availability, if you don't plan to use it you must really like Skoda.

Raydu

2 posts

30 months

Sunday 26th December 2021
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Hi in reply to what they gave me for it £2300 said they were selling it direct to a private collector. Obviously they are still waiting to find the private collector .

biggbn

24,040 posts

222 months

Sunday 26th December 2021
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Raydu said:
Hi in reply to what they gave me for it £2300 said they were selling it direct to a private collector. Obviously they are still waiting to find the private collector .
I thinknyou did well, I love it but don't see it as a 2k plus car, rarity not being equitable to value in some/many cases

dentmanwarren

22 posts

160 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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I was working in the panel shop at Southampton Vehicle terminals when skoda started coming through Southampton Docks. They used to bend the front towing eyes when lashing them down on the boats, they were a weak point. I used to beat back straight and re welded dozens of them. The first batch we had through had dry paint in the door shuts and we had to repaint them. I also made the templates for the tailgate badges (they were imported blank and badged as Favorit in the UK) probably the only new cars I ever saw and heard that sounded like it had already done 100k miles. Proper nasty. Skoda have come on a long way since then.