Bought an S2000 n hour ago.

[Ruskie]

Protected no claims? You still have to declare it but you don't lose years you have accrued.

[amare32]

havoc said:

As for a turbo Type-R?!? Do give me a break...you have NO idea what the brand represents, do you?!?

Sorry if I've touched a raw nerve by suggesting that Honda should use a turbo. I know that Honda have a tradition of using N/A aspirated engines in their sportscars but
as manufacturers are turning to smaller capacity engines with turbos/superchargers to get a good balance of power / torque for emissions reason. Maybe an S2000 would
not be the ideal car to strap on a turbo as it can be a little twitchy but we all know that Honda is never going to use a V6 - the one from the NSX-R would be nice

[sniff diesel]

chr15b said:

sniff diesel said:

chr15b said:

sniff diesel said:

Mattt said:

sniff diesel said:

Ruskie said:

My mate had one as a test drive whilst his Accord was being serviced.

Frosty January Morning + Rear wheel drive novice + Lairy rear wheel drive = Binned S2000

187 miles on the clock!! Ironic thing was he had no intention of buying as his missus was pregnant at the time!

What a daft way to loose you NCD.

Why his NCD?

person crashes car > insurance company claims > person looses NCD

That's the way it normally works, even if you're driving someone elses car.

no claims discount

i'm sure thats a discount because you havent claimed on the policy

so if he was on a test drive or courtesy car from the dealer where the dealer was insuring then why would he loose his ncd?

as has been suggested after the whole ncd question came up - he had it on his own insurance then yes.

otherwise, bit like me driving the oh's car where i'm a named driver, crashing it and loosing the ncd on my car

Ok, so when you come to renew your car insurance and they ask "have you written off a car in the last 4 years" or words to that effect what do you then tell them? I reckon that it would affect your premium.

i tell them i've had a claim, they price the policy accordingly - my x% discount still comes into play.

my current premium is say £1000 and i get 50% discount - i pay £500

i've binned a brand new car and they think i'm a maniac - my new policy £10,000 my NCD is still 50% so policy of £5000

i'd have thought better of you than to confuse a guaranteed discount with price protection

So you can't just bin a brand new car on a test drive without repercussions, even if your NCB is unnaffected.

[chr15b]

sniff diesel said:

chr15b said:

sniff diesel said:

chr15b said:

sniff diesel said:

Mattt said:

sniff diesel said:

Ruskie said:

My mate had one as a test drive whilst his Accord was being serviced.

Frosty January Morning + Rear wheel drive novice + Lairy rear wheel drive = Binned S2000

187 miles on the clock!! Ironic thing was he had no intention of buying as his missus was pregnant at the time!

What a daft way to loose you NCD.

Why his NCD?

person crashes car > insurance company claims > person looses NCD

That's the way it normally works, even if you're driving someone elses car.

no claims discount

i'm sure thats a discount because you havent claimed on the policy

so if he was on a test drive or courtesy car from the dealer where the dealer was insuring then why would he loose his ncd?

as has been suggested after the whole ncd question came up - he had it on his own insurance then yes.

otherwise, bit like me driving the oh's car where i'm a named driver, crashing it and loosing the ncd on my car

Ok, so when you come to renew your car insurance and they ask "have you written off a car in the last 4 years" or words to that effect what do you then tell them? I reckon that it would affect your premium.

i tell them i've had a claim, they price the policy accordingly - my x% discount still comes into play.

my current premium is say £1000 and i get 50% discount - i pay £500

i've binned a brand new car and they think i'm a maniac - my new policy £10,000 my NCD is still 50% so policy of £5000

i'd have thought better of you than to confuse a guaranteed discount with price protection

So you can't just bin a brand new car on a test drive without repercussions, even if your NCB is unnaffected.

sniff diesel said:

person crashes car > insurance company claims > person looses NCD

That's the way it normally works, even if you're driving someone elses car.

policy goes up, ncd unaffected.

Edited by chr15b "to remove uncalled for posting" on Sunday 4th January 15:29

Edited by chr15b on Sunday 4th January 15:32

[sniff diesel]

chr15b said:

sniff diesel said:

chr15b said:

sniff diesel said:

chr15b said:

sniff diesel said:

Mattt said:

sniff diesel said:

Ruskie said:

My mate had one as a test drive whilst his Accord was being serviced.

Frosty January Morning + Rear wheel drive novice + Lairy rear wheel drive = Binned S2000

187 miles on the clock!! Ironic thing was he had no intention of buying as his missus was pregnant at the time!

What a daft way to loose you NCD.

Why his NCD?

person crashes car > insurance company claims > person looses NCD

That's the way it normally works, even if you're driving someone elses car.

no claims discount

i'm sure thats a discount because you havent claimed on the policy

so if he was on a test drive or courtesy car from the dealer where the dealer was insuring then why would he loose his ncd?

as has been suggested after the whole ncd question came up - he had it on his own insurance then yes.

otherwise, bit like me driving the oh's car where i'm a named driver, crashing it and loosing the ncd on my car

Ok, so when you come to renew your car insurance and they ask "have you written off a car in the last 4 years" or words to that effect what do you then tell them? I reckon that it would affect your premium.

i tell them i've had a claim, they price the policy accordingly - my x% discount still comes into play.

my current premium is say £1000 and i get 50% discount - i pay £500

i've binned a brand new car and they think i'm a maniac - my new policy £10,000 my NCD is still 50% so policy of £5000

i'd have thought better of you than to confuse a guaranteed discount with price protection

So you can't just bin a brand new car on a test drive without repercussions, even if your NCB is unnaffected.

i was going to take your quote right in the middle of this post, highlight it and attempt to show how we ended up at this point.

however taking your last post, and others i've read today i'm just of the impression your out to be an argumentative little turd.

if i'm wrong, i suggest a little read back and all will become clear.

have a nice day

I don't mean to sound like I'm arguing, I'm just trying to get things straight in my head. I'm not an insurance expert so thanks for your input. So basically if you bin a car on a test drive, you'll pay for it eventually with inflated premiums in the future - Yes?

[chr15b]

sniff diesel said:

I don't mean to sound like I'm arguing, I'm just trying to get things straight in my head. I'm not an insurance expert so thanks for your input. So basically if you bin a car on a test drive, you'll pay for it eventually with inflated premiums in the future - Yes?

depending on the insurance company i would seriously expect so

if it's not a claim on your own insurance policy however your own no claims discount will remain unaffected

to the best of my knowledge

[allforone]

havoc said:

As for a turbo Type-R?!? Do give me a break...you have NO idea what the brand represents, do you?!?

Are you joking?

Let's not confuse what we are talking about here with something from Stuttgart or Modena Honda is very good at making small light, reliable econoboxes. The Type R concept has only been successful IMO in three cars, DC2, FD2 and NSX. The rest have been maketing over engineering. Smaller capacity FI engines are aleady here and dont think that Honda wont be using them should the market want them.

No, I am not a begrudging wannabe owner having had the DC2 and NSX and I do not doubt what Big H 'can' do. Its just that they haven't really delivered for me in recent years. Scoffing at FI is stupid as it is a very effective way of raising power outputs without introducing bucket loads of weight. These days turbo's and superchargers are way more efficient so why not.....I dont remember Honda in 1987 as a motor manufacturer in F1 supplying many 3.5litre NA engines, didn't they stick with their dominant 1.5 V6 turbo?

Back on topic I never liked the S, but people do so good luck to them it is cetainly a marmite car and very good value these days.

[m4tt]

BigE1967 said:

How is the room in an S2000? I am 6'8" and am thinking about getting a small, lightweight, fun, fast, usable and reliable car to use for trackdays, backroads, etc....I was thinking a used S2000 might fit the bill.

Pretty sure you won't fit, I'm 6'6" and my head was touching the roof and there was very little room for legs as the steering wheel is fixed and not moveable. You might be of different proportions to me and just about fit, but I sincerely doubt you will. Go try one out.

[Mattt]

chr15b said:

sniff diesel said:

I don't mean to sound like I'm arguing, I'm just trying to get things straight in my head. I'm not an insurance expert so thanks for your input. So basically if you bin a car on a test drive, you'll pay for it eventually with inflated premiums in the future - Yes?

depending on the insurance company i would seriously expect so

if it's not a claim on your own insurance policy however your own no claims discount will remain unaffected

to the best of my knowledge

Would it affect the policy? They usually ask if you have made any claims, not if you've had any crashes.

[chr15b]

Mattt said:

chr15b said:

sniff diesel said:

I don't mean to sound like I'm arguing, I'm just trying to get things straight in my head. I'm not an insurance expert so thanks for your input. So basically if you bin a car on a test drive, you'll pay for it eventually with inflated premiums in the future - Yes?

depending on the insurance company i would seriously expect so

if it's not a claim on your own insurance policy however your own no claims discount will remain unaffected

to the best of my knowledge

Would it affect the policy? They usually ask if you have made any claims, not if you've had any crashes.

i renewed my insurance in the last few days and i'm sure the question was "collisions or claims"

depending on how it's worded to you you can choose to declare or not, though i'm sure if you didnt and then had a claim it would be brought up.

i'm no expert, so dont take my word as gospel

[havoc]

I wasn't 'scoffing' at what FI can do - the wife owns a MkV GTi and it's a very easy way to travel very quickly.

allforone said:

Let's not confuse what we are talking about here with something from Stuttgart or Modena Honda is very good at making small light, reliable econoboxes. The Type R concept has only been successful IMO in three cars, DC2, FD2 and NSX. The rest have been maketing over engineering. Smaller capacity FI engines are aleady here and dont think that Honda wont be using them should the market want them.

My point about the brand is that the Type-R sub-brand has always been about high-revving n/asp engines which go all Mr Hyde on you at 6,000rpm. Hell, ALL Honda sports cars from the S600/800 onwards have been like that, with the Type-R bit emphasising lightness and focus/purity.

So to soften-off the throttle response and compromise the efficiency of the VTEC system by fitting a turbo is anathema to everything Honda have thus-far done, and would lump them in with almost every other manufacturer in going FI in recent years. And you wouldn't catch me buying one...

As for 'marketing over engineering' - yes, to a degree I'd agree with you. The EK9 and ATR are worthy of the badge, the EP3 and FN2 are more like VTi's. But compared to every other hot-hatch mfr bar Renault, the EP3 at least was still very engineering-led...just not enough compared to it's 'R' stablemates.

[Junior X]

Havoc said

How does the Z4M compare to the S2000? Not in terms of pace (can imagine), but in terms of feel, feedback, poise, etc.?

To be honest it feels a real step up, although I've had it less than a month and haven't really pushed it yet because of the weather and still being a bit wary of the power. The Z4M feels a little less jittery than the S2000, but not in a major way, and it also feels a lot more refined, although that should be a given considering the kit levels and the initial cost of the two. The steering gives better feedback than the S2000, and I always thought that was the only thing that both my Hondas (S2000 and a CTR before that) didn't do well. What I do miss from the S2000 is the gearbox, which I loved! The Z4 has a heavier gear change than the Hondas, not saying that it's a problem, just that I was spoilt by the S2000 and CTR gearboxes.

Overall it's a real step up on the S2000, but I'd never hesitate in recommending an S2000 to anyone.

[Oyibo]

Aye. As an Ex-Pat, nearly all my mileage was fun derived, in and around the northern hill's and rarely in traffic so my experience of heatsoak is nil. Had I experienced as you describe, then I'd certainly replace the airbox cover. I've heard about the drilling option but don't recall anybody actually doing it.

The roof up thing is a light hearted swipe at the rain lovers, who despite the potential for damage, drive roof down until the heavens open