RE: Ford Ranger Raptor | UK Drive
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fblm said:
AdeTuono said:
Mine does...(admittedly it's not new, but that's the reason I've kept it.
Nice. I've got first dibs on my neighbours V8 Raptor. It sounds epic 
200bhp said:
Chestrockwell said:
Why haven’t ford put the 3.2 5cyl diesel from the current ford rangers?
Because the 3.2 isnt as economoical, as fast or as refined as the new engine.Also massive issues on injectors failing on 18/19 plates we even had one which required all 4 injectors changing before the pdi can't wait for the fun with these engines in the new ranger/raptor specially with twin turbos.
The best thing though these engines will be in the new vw transporter models good luck to the techs in vw. We have a raptor in work does look good however its pointless You can get the same look in the normal ranger and with the far better 3.2 diesel.
AdeTuono said:
I don't keep my motors long, generally, but I've had my Raptor for nearly 6 years and have no intention of getting rid in the foreseeable. Even at 12mpg, I grab the keys to it before any of my other vehicles.
My neighbour is the same: he’s got 3 other cars and they have all come and gone except the Raptor... He lost it on a 40mph roundabout and took out about 20 feet of armco; he was able to reverse off and drive home 
perfect school run car.I had a 24 hour test drive of a Ranger Wildtrak last week with a view to buying a Raptor in the future.
Why, I hear you ask.
Well, there's a couple of reasons it's on the "possible" list to replace my Focus estate.
- 5 genuinely usable seats, pretty much any car with two child seats becomes a four seater. If you want a 5th seat you actually end up buying a seven seater, which means Defenders, GLSs etc (more on those later)
- Boot - With two kids I sometimes need to take 4 bikes somewhere - and, as was proved while I had the Ranger - chucking bikes in the rear of a truck is a darn sight easier than attaching a bike rack (and associated boot access problems)
The only issue I had with the Ranger i tried - which has the same 2.0 engine as the Raptor now, rather than the agricultural 3.2 - was the suspension. With no weight in the back, and no prospect of weight in the back if I had one it did tend to feel a bit of a boneshaker and then, on the country lanes, pogoed away. The kids have never been car sick but I think this would make them sick, no question.
BUT the Raptor has more appropriate suspension for my use, lower capacity, but I can't see me ever putting close to a ton in the back to be honest.
The engine is lively enough, I didn't get the stopwatch out but it certainly didn't feel like a slouch away from the lights, ran out of puff at 50 though so I can see why the 0-60 time might be glacial. But how often do you need that?
I'm still torn. There's a few cars I've considered as the next one either new or used. The Merc GLS AMG is a guilty pleasure, it would be a lot more luxury for the same money, but would be less "chuck everything in the back and go". There's several estate and even saloon cars I've considered (RS6, Giulia, Stelvio etc) and of course they'd all be better driver's cars which would suit me perfectly 80 or 90% of the time. But there's that 10 or 20% when they'd be a real hassle to use in comparison to the Ranger Raptor.
Used ones seem to be holding their value based on what's on sale and there's doxens of Wildtraks being sold with "Raptor" in the description which are actually Wildtraks with lots of upgrades. Some look very good but the suspension would put me off. It would have to be the Raptor.
Why, I hear you ask.
Well, there's a couple of reasons it's on the "possible" list to replace my Focus estate.
- 5 genuinely usable seats, pretty much any car with two child seats becomes a four seater. If you want a 5th seat you actually end up buying a seven seater, which means Defenders, GLSs etc (more on those later)
- Boot - With two kids I sometimes need to take 4 bikes somewhere - and, as was proved while I had the Ranger - chucking bikes in the rear of a truck is a darn sight easier than attaching a bike rack (and associated boot access problems)
The only issue I had with the Ranger i tried - which has the same 2.0 engine as the Raptor now, rather than the agricultural 3.2 - was the suspension. With no weight in the back, and no prospect of weight in the back if I had one it did tend to feel a bit of a boneshaker and then, on the country lanes, pogoed away. The kids have never been car sick but I think this would make them sick, no question.
BUT the Raptor has more appropriate suspension for my use, lower capacity, but I can't see me ever putting close to a ton in the back to be honest.
The engine is lively enough, I didn't get the stopwatch out but it certainly didn't feel like a slouch away from the lights, ran out of puff at 50 though so I can see why the 0-60 time might be glacial. But how often do you need that?
I'm still torn. There's a few cars I've considered as the next one either new or used. The Merc GLS AMG is a guilty pleasure, it would be a lot more luxury for the same money, but would be less "chuck everything in the back and go". There's several estate and even saloon cars I've considered (RS6, Giulia, Stelvio etc) and of course they'd all be better driver's cars which would suit me perfectly 80 or 90% of the time. But there's that 10 or 20% when they'd be a real hassle to use in comparison to the Ranger Raptor.
Used ones seem to be holding their value based on what's on sale and there's doxens of Wildtraks being sold with "Raptor" in the description which are actually Wildtraks with lots of upgrades. Some look very good but the suspension would put me off. It would have to be the Raptor.
Edited by Hackney on Tuesday 14th September 15:54
Edited by Hackney on Tuesday 14th September 16:07
Edited by Hackney on Tuesday 14th September 16:10
LaurasOtherHalf said:
That’s why a lot of us prefer the Amarok, it drives like a car despite the rear suspension.
Unfortunately you’re now looking at used as they stopped selling them in the U.K.
The Amarok will still be sold UK. Unfortunately for the VW fanboys, it’s going to be a badged Ranger.Unfortunately you’re now looking at used as they stopped selling them in the U.K.
KTMsm said:
Iwantafusca said:
Stupid looking things , inappropriate for uk roads imo.
Watching owners trying to park ,turn or even drive on A roads is amusing…
That's the owners being unable to drive, I ran F150s and Dodge Rams for years without a problemWatching owners trying to park ,turn or even drive on A roads is amusing…
LaurasOtherHalf said:
That’s why a lot of us prefer the Amarok, it drives like a car despite the rear suspension.
Unfortunately you’re now looking at used as they stopped selling them in the U.K.
Interesting. Could you tell me a bit more about the ownership / driving experience? I'm not wedded to the Raptor. It just seemed like the least commercial biased.Unfortunately you’re now looking at used as they stopped selling them in the U.K.
Hackney said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
That’s why a lot of us prefer the Amarok, it drives like a car despite the rear suspension.
Unfortunately you’re now looking at used as they stopped selling them in the U.K.
Interesting. Could you tell me a bit more about the ownership / driving experience? I'm not wedded to the Raptor. It just seemed like the least commercial biased.Unfortunately you’re now looking at used as they stopped selling them in the U.K.
tty things going wrong can and probably will happen. Mines had an O2 sensor (warranty) and rear damper (2 month out of warranty).A customer runs a VW specialist and says they're pretty much bulletproof apart from odd silly repairs.
To drive, it's phenomenal. It truly feels as good as a previous generation luxury 4X4. My family love it and we can travel as far as possible with everyone in comfort.
I could also travel from the Borders down to Plymouth within race car trailer to go and pick up a car, transport sheet material, tubs of mortar and tow a trailer fully laden for work.
I make no bones about it, it is without a doubt one of the single best "cars" I've ever owned. Even though it's used for building work I mint it up every build stage so it's always kept really clean.
They totally hold their money as well even before you take into consideration the price bubble at the moment.
Comfortable, easily fast enough (V6 twin turbo diesel), fuel economy now worse than the modern Ranger 2.0 10 speeder my mate owns, fairly premium inside with the highland trim-could probably do with a leather dash but apart from that? Honestly-we love it.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Quite simply, we love it! The caveat to anything is that it's a VW, so stty things going wrong can and probably will happen. Mines had an O2 sensor (warranty) and rear damper (2 month out of warranty).
A customer runs a VW specialist and says they're pretty much bulletproof apart from odd silly repairs.
To drive, it's phenomenal. It truly feels as good as a previous generation luxury 4X4. My family love it and we can travel as far as possible with everyone in comfort.
I could also travel from the Borders down to Plymouth within race car trailer to go and pick up a car, transport sheet material, tubs of mortar and tow a trailer fully laden for work.
I make no bones about it, it is without a doubt one of the single best "cars" I've ever owned. Even though it's used for building work I mint it up every build stage so it's always kept really clean.
They totally hold their money as well even before you take into consideration the price bubble at the moment.
Comfortable, easily fast enough (V6 twin turbo diesel), fuel economy now worse than the modern Ranger 2.0 10 speeder my mate owns, fairly premium inside with the highland trim-could probably do with a leather dash but apart from that? Honestly-we love it.
Thanks for that, really helpful. tty things going wrong can and probably will happen. Mines had an O2 sensor (warranty) and rear damper (2 month out of warranty).A customer runs a VW specialist and says they're pretty much bulletproof apart from odd silly repairs.
To drive, it's phenomenal. It truly feels as good as a previous generation luxury 4X4. My family love it and we can travel as far as possible with everyone in comfort.
I could also travel from the Borders down to Plymouth within race car trailer to go and pick up a car, transport sheet material, tubs of mortar and tow a trailer fully laden for work.
I make no bones about it, it is without a doubt one of the single best "cars" I've ever owned. Even though it's used for building work I mint it up every build stage so it's always kept really clean.
They totally hold their money as well even before you take into consideration the price bubble at the moment.
Comfortable, easily fast enough (V6 twin turbo diesel), fuel economy now worse than the modern Ranger 2.0 10 speeder my mate owns, fairly premium inside with the highland trim-could probably do with a leather dash but apart from that? Honestly-we love it.
G'Day.
I've had my Wildtrack for about 3 years now and spent a long time trying to decide between it and Amarok. What swayed it for me back then was the lack of rear curtain airbags and the smaller, less user friendly screen in the Amarok.
I've had a Raptor as a demo for a day and it's brilliant here in Australia where you can be on an un-sealed road for hours. But in the UK I don't know if it's really relevant, other than the more car-like handling you've already experienced.
There's a new Ranger just around the corner and my plan is to keep my Wildtrack until there is a Raptor version of the new model - Sadly there was no Raptor available when I bought mine.
I've had my Wildtrack for about 3 years now and spent a long time trying to decide between it and Amarok. What swayed it for me back then was the lack of rear curtain airbags and the smaller, less user friendly screen in the Amarok.
I've had a Raptor as a demo for a day and it's brilliant here in Australia where you can be on an un-sealed road for hours. But in the UK I don't know if it's really relevant, other than the more car-like handling you've already experienced.
There's a new Ranger just around the corner and my plan is to keep my Wildtrack until there is a Raptor version of the new model - Sadly there was no Raptor available when I bought mine.
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