Cyclist dies after collision

Cyclist dies after collision

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Chris71

21,536 posts

244 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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hora said:
Not on the report but the driver was a 93yr old.
Probably didn't even notice they were there until it was too late. frown

Snowboy

8,028 posts

153 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Such a shame that she'd been driving for so long with a clear record and then two cyclists go and crash into her.

Are there any more details about the incident before we all jump to conclusions. smile

GroundEffect

13,863 posts

158 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I like how you immediately jump to conclusions.

Ageism is alive and well (yes, it's a pun).

lyonspride

2,978 posts

157 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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hora said:
Not on the report but the driver was a 93yr old.
We need to carry on with this illusion that only young motorists are a danger.....

Strange how in the US they openly admit that the elderly are a huge risk on the roads!!

Snowboy

8,028 posts

153 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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How old were the cyclists?

bigandclever

13,836 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Snowboy said:
How old were the cyclists?
The woman who died was 30 frown

Bitzer

4,300 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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My wife got driven into by a 93 year old a few years ago....and the old fker drove off!

A witness got his registration and the Police traced him, retired Colonel!

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I know someone who just turned 90 that is an excellent driver! However, it is often remarked on how good she is for her age, which might tell you something about how crap other 90 year old must be at driving...


yellowbentines

5,363 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I wouldn't automatically assume an older driver isn't a good driver, Stirling Moss is 82 and still looks pretty handy smile

You can call for re-testing/medical certificates/eye examinations to be introduced for the elderly, but the really doddery 90 year old drivers that shouldn't be on the road probably don't even know where their licence is, nevermind concern themselves about whether or not it's valid, or handwritten on parchment and out of date 20 years ago.

Vipers

32,945 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Don't tar all elderly drivers with the same brush.

I bet the majority of accidents are those in the younger bracket?





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eldar

21,872 posts

198 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Vipers said:
Don't tar all elderly drivers with the same brush.

I bet the majority of accidents are those in the younger bracket?





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Over 80's have more accidents. But less serious ones, generally.

Bullett

10,894 posts

186 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Isn't the issue mainly that older drivers have bumps and scrapes and youngsters tend to total the car and whatever they hit.

J4CKO

41,764 posts

202 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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My grandad gave up last year at 89, he was ok until then, ts a case of knowing when enough is enough and he decided his eyesight was not up to it and also insurance gets expensive, people can be very impatient and agressive with older drivers even when they are doing nothing wrong and are pretty much on the speed limit.

It is someones independance that they lose to a certain extent but they should not be selfish about it which I think a lot are, or potentially in the early stages of Dementia, so it is perhaps up to the families of older drivers (not old giffers, buffers or coffin dodgers) to suggest that if they notice anything that doesnt look safe to have a word with the person and persuade them that perhaps they should hang up the keys.

So, dont get dismissive about older drivers, most manage prefectly fine, some manage better than their younger counterparts, some people can be very alert when they are 90, not many but there are as least as many dopey 18 year olds.

Im 40, eventually we all get old, old people arent a different species and still have feelings and enjoy things and that should be supported but absolutely not at the risk of other people. I suspect at this rate I may get my E46 when I am 89 !


pinchmeimdreamin

10,003 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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So how did the accident occur?

Maximum boobs

3,762 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I can't find where it says she's 93.

RevYob

3,560 posts

176 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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The Crack Fox said:
Some 90-something left his handbrake off on a hill and rolled backwards into our family bus. I got out. The old boy shouted "you were too close". I had to lean in and apply the handbrake to stop him doing more damage whilst my wife pushed his Corsa off our car. He had rolled 6 foot and not noticed. I noticed the whole car was covered in scrapes and dings. He then drove off, no apology, nothing.

I'm a pretty tolerant chap, I think, but I had a burning urge to throw his keys into the sea and save more people from his dangerous driving for good... frown
What a cretin, hope you reported him to the police.

redgriff500

26,973 posts

265 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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I witnessed my gran driving into a post alongside her drive and that her car was covered in dings and dents (it didn't used to be).

I told my mum that she needs to stop driving NOW.

She said "but it's her freedom."

I replied what if the post was a kid, what if she drifts wide around a bend and I'm coming the other way, her freedom could cost someone their life.

She was talked into getting taxis from then on at approx 85yrs old.

Personally I'd like to see compulsory re tests every 5yrs


anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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yellowbentines said:
I wouldn't automatically assume an older driver isn't a good driver, Stirling Moss is 82 and still looks pretty handy smile

You can call for re-testing/medical certificates/eye examinations to be introduced for the elderly, but the really doddery 90 year old drivers that shouldn't be on the road probably don't even know where their licence is, nevermind concern themselves about whether or not it's valid, or handwritten on parchment and out of date 20 years ago.
Stirling recently retired from racing whilst testing his porsche (550 i think?) because he was not able to be sure his reactions were sufficient to keep the car under control with others on the circuit. i feel sorry for him as it must be a huge decision for him to make but then i respect his ability to say enough is enough and i am not capable of doing this anymore.

if only everyone of a similar age thought the same.

lyonspride

2,978 posts

157 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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eldar said:
Over 80's have more accidents. But less serious ones, generally.
Yes they do, but the really scary thing?

THEY ALSO DO LESS MILEAGE!!! furious

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

159 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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Imagine letting old people drive - how stupid can you get?