How do I get an OLDER registration?
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I recently bought a motorcycle that was manufactured in 1972, however it is on an "S" registration as it was first registered in 1978.
Is it possible to change my reg for one from the year of manufacture and, if so, any ideas how I go about doing it?
Bike is in my name and easily mot'd.
Is it possible to change my reg for one from the year of manufacture and, if so, any ideas how I go about doing it?
Bike is in my name and easily mot'd.
Can you buy a personal plate?
http://www.plates4less.co.uk/plates/search-suffix-...
Not sure if you could get one for free (or for less than the above) from the DVLA.
http://www.plates4less.co.uk/plates/search-suffix-...
Not sure if you could get one for free (or for less than the above) from the DVLA.
I am reluctant to disagree but IMO you can't. The date of first registration is the date of first registration, irrespective of when the vehicle was manufactured. That is the earliest date which DVLA will recognise for a UK vehicle. I think they are more sympathetic with imports.
.... unless, of course, you go for a "dateless" plate such as ABC 123.
.... unless, of course, you go for a "dateless" plate such as ABC 123.
Ozzie Osmond said:
I am reluctant to disagree but IMO you can't. The date of first registration is the date of first registration, irrespective of when the vehicle was manufactured. That is the earliest date which DVLA will recognise for a UK vehicle. I think they are more sympathetic with imports.
.... unless, of course, you go for a "dateless" plate such as ABC 123.
Except that a dateless plate is actually a pre-1963 plate. You can't make a vehicle look newer but you can have any older plate. Otherwise the value of FAN70M (currently on at £132k) would be reduced somewhat if you could only put it on a car first registered in 1973..... unless, of course, you go for a "dateless" plate such as ABC 123.
Rubin215 said:
I don't really want a "personal" plate; any combination of letters and numbers will do, but I am keen to have the correct year suffix letter.
Click the link; the cheapies really wouldn't stand out as a personal plate at all. Although I'd speak to the DVLA first to see if they can do anything.DavidHM said:
Rubin215 said:
I don't really want a "personal" plate; any combination of letters and numbers will do, but I am keen to have the correct year suffix letter.
Click the link; the cheapies really wouldn't stand out as a personal plate at all. Although I'd speak to the DVLA first to see if they can do anything. this post may be influenced by Gordon's
Dvla will put any plate you want in auction if you request it, and it's never been issued. I have done it in the past.
You could ask them for "AAA 111L" if it's never been issued. The girl I emailed went through all my suggestions, and told me which ones could go into auction. 4 weeks later they were in the auction for 499 plus fees.
You could ask them for "AAA 111L" if it's never been issued. The girl I emailed went through all my suggestions, and told me which ones could go into auction. 4 weeks later they were in the auction for 499 plus fees.
Perhaps someone could explain the attraction of personal plates? I mean, who gives a f
k what combination of numbers and letters the plate has? They're only there as a part of nanny state's system to rake in Tax, otherwise you could drive without them. They don't add speed, they don't improve the handling, and you can't even see them when you're driving. Apart from having some money that you don't know what else to do with, what's the point? This is not a troll, I'm genuinely interested as to why people are prepared to pay, in some cases, very silly money for personal plates? Have I missed something?
k what combination of numbers and letters the plate has? They're only there as a part of nanny state's system to rake in Tax, otherwise you could drive without them. They don't add speed, they don't improve the handling, and you can't even see them when you're driving. Apart from having some money that you don't know what else to do with, what's the point? This is not a troll, I'm genuinely interested as to why people are prepared to pay, in some cases, very silly money for personal plates? Have I missed something?GuitarTech said:
Perhaps someone could explain the attraction of personal plates? I mean, who gives a fk what combination of numbers and letters the plate has? They're only there as a part of nanny state's system to rake in Tax, otherwise you could drive without them. They don't add speed, they don't improve the handling, and you can't even see them when you're driving. Apart from having some money that you don't know what else to do with, what's the point? This is not a troll, I'm genuinely interested as to why people are prepared to pay, in some cases, very silly money for personal plates? Have I missed something?
Because they/we want a "vanity" plate?k what combination of numbers and letters the plate has? They're only there as a part of nanny state's system to rake in Tax, otherwise you could drive without them. They don't add speed, they don't improve the handling, and you can't even see them when you're driving. Apart from having some money that you don't know what else to do with, what's the point? This is not a troll, I'm genuinely interested as to why people are prepared to pay, in some cases, very silly money for personal plates? Have I missed something?No, it doesn't add any performance to the car, but it's down to personal choice.
GuitarTech said:
Perhaps someone could explain the attraction of personal plates? I mean, who gives a fk what combination of numbers and letters the plate has? They're only there as a part of nanny state's system to rake in Tax, otherwise you could drive without them. They don't add speed, they don't improve the handling, and you can't even see them when you're driving. Apart from having some money that you don't know what else to do with, what's the point? This is not a troll, I'm genuinely interested as to why people are prepared to pay, in some cases, very silly money for personal plates? Have I missed something?
Silly > middlingly silly money - call them vanity plates, it makes more sense.k what combination of numbers and letters the plate has? They're only there as a part of nanny state's system to rake in Tax, otherwise you could drive without them. They don't add speed, they don't improve the handling, and you can't even see them when you're driving. Apart from having some money that you don't know what else to do with, what's the point? This is not a troll, I'm genuinely interested as to why people are prepared to pay, in some cases, very silly money for personal plates? Have I missed something?Middlingly > extremely silly money - somewhat subtle way of converting cash > asset for later reconversion.
Ozzie Osmond said:
I am reluctant to disagree but IMO you can't. The date of first registration is the date of first registration, irrespective of when the vehicle was manufactured. That is the earliest date which DVLA will recognise for a UK vehicle. I think they are more sympathetic with imports.
.... unless, of course, you go for a "dateless" plate such as ABC 123.
Course you can, i had fat###Y on a 1990 van, just buy the cheapest 72ish reg plate you can..... unless, of course, you go for a "dateless" plate such as ABC 123.
DavidHM said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
I am reluctant to disagree but IMO you can't. The date of first registration is the date of first registration, irrespective of when the vehicle was manufactured. That is the earliest date which DVLA will recognise for a UK vehicle. I think they are more sympathetic with imports.
.... unless, of course, you go for a "dateless" plate such as ABC 123.
Except that a dateless plate is actually a pre-1963 plate. You can't make a vehicle look newer but you can have any older plate. Otherwise the value of FAN70M (currently on at £132k) would be reduced somewhat if you could only put it on a car first registered in 1973..... unless, of course, you go for a "dateless" plate such as ABC 123.
Remember that if you're doing this to get a free tax disc free tax (assuming it's the same for bikes as cars) just because the plate is 1972, the date of first registration is still 1978, so you'll have to prove date of manufacture to get it changed to historic vehicle taxation class.
tog said:
Remember that if you're doing this to get a free tax disc free tax (assuming it's the same for bikes as cars) just because the plate is 1972, the date of first registration is still 1978, so you'll have to prove date of manufacture to get it changed to historic vehicle taxation class.
Bizarely, the bike is currently registered as an historic vehicle anyway!If you speak to your local DVLA office, they should be able to advise on what you need to do this, probably a letter from a recognised body, i.e. owners club, detailing the original year of manufacture. Is the bike an import? Prior to 1984 they didn't bother too much about age related plates, just used the current one, so if your bike was imported in 78 that's the year on the plate. There are plenty of 60s & 70s American cars still with late 70s no plates so you are not alone.
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