Why are people convinced they'll get more discount for cash?

Why are people convinced they'll get more discount for cash?

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Ari

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19,356 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Just looking at all the "if you pay cash you'll get a better discount" posts in the 24 year old buy's Bentley thread.

What on earth makes people think that?

A dealer doesn't care were the money comes from, financed cash isn't worth any less on his accounts!

And if he's providing the finance he'll get a commission, so if anything he's more likely to do a better deal with finance as he'll be making a bit extra.

Really cannot understand this perpetual "better deal for cash" urban myth, how does anyone think it makes any sense? confused

markmullen

15,877 posts

236 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Because in days gone by people would slip a deal through without it going through the books, losing the VAT in the process which gave them a leeway to do a better deal.

Of course now that's not possible. Still done with some tradesmen, but not in the motor trade.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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When getting my car key cut he gave discount for cash as he didn't have to declare it to the taxman. I would expect "back in't day" a dealer could take cash then tell the taxman he sold the car for £200 less than he did thus pocketing the difference.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,690 posts

152 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Cash can definitely cloud a sellers common sense. Especially private sellers.

Someone saying they won't take a penny under 5 grand is one thing, but sticking to it when someone is waving a £4000 wad of notes under your nose is quite another.

Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

170 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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anonymous said:
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roflrofl

markmullen

15,877 posts

236 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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anonymous said:
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Maybe in the very bottom reaches, the sub £1000 stter market but not anywhere proper, too much scrutiny.

Soovy

35,829 posts

273 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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anonymous said:
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Vladimir

6,917 posts

160 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Last three cars bought for cash.

All at least £1500 off list/sticker price, all with a load of extras thrown in.

And no bloody interest to pay to scumbag finance companies. And the car is ALL MINE.

Balmoral

41,082 posts

250 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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What's with the rofl's at Mark?

I've been in the trade on and off for donkeys years, and never came across any off book deals. Sure it happens at the shed end of the market, sole traders etc. But not at a regular franchised new car dealership or group, maybe if trade cars are being moved on, but not front of house retail.

As for the OP's point about a discount for cash, yes, it's complete total utter bks, and there's no point explaining why. What you do is instead of educating the customer as to why it doesn't work like that (and losing a deal) you reinforce their ignorance, rub your hands together and say "Of course Sir, what did you have in mind?" and talk turkey. They think they've got a deal for cash, and bragging rights down the pub, they haven't of course, but who cares?


Edited by Balmoral on Thursday 23 February 16:26

WeirdNeville

5,985 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Vs Card the seller saves 2-3% in fees on the card transaction. SO that's a bit of leeway.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,749 posts

157 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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every time ive use a card in a dealer ive always had to pay the fee on top

SAGRIFF

2,312 posts

181 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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anonymous said:
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rofl


DoubleSix

11,737 posts

178 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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I generally 'imply' I will be utilising finance during negotiation. Generally secures a lower price as they pick up a bit of margin on the finance. I will then often change my mind and go cash.... wink

Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

170 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Balmoral said:
What's with the rofl's at Mark?

Sure it happens at the shed end of the market, sole traders etc.
You've answered your own question there.

Dave Hedgehog

14,599 posts

206 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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anonymous said:
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difficult to loose money especially when the inland revenue can access your bank accounts

markmullen

15,877 posts

236 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Balmoral said:
What's with the rofl's at Mark?
Because everyone is a fking expert on the motor trade, you only have to read the steaming ste that gets posted on the salesman thread by folk who have sold one or two cars in their lives and think that somehow qualifies them to tell those of us who do (or have done) it for a living for years how it should be done.


crofty1984

15,945 posts

206 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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If I'm selling privately, I don't have a min price is x for cash and y for another payment method.

But! I don't have the inconvenience of witing for a cheque to clear, the buyer to get a banker's draft or get home and transfer the money into my account. It also means an immediate sale, so if I'm selling a car for £2500 expecting to get knocked down a couple of hundred, I'd be tempted to go down another hundred or so perhaps.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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At an independent, where you are dealing with the owner then I can see no reason why a cash deal, off the books, could not be done if both parties colluded to do so.

At a franchised dealer, where even the DP is a few steps removed from owning the business and where the parent company might even be a listed plc, there is far less scope for such shenanigans and real pound notes cash is probably more of a problem to them than a benefit that they are willing to drop the price for

Balmoral

41,082 posts

250 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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I've heard of cash being refused as a form of payment too.

WeirdNeville

5,985 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Balmoral said:
I've heard of cash being refused as a form of payment too.
Large amounts for reasons of money laundering legislation.