Car reviews - stupid!

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bilsland

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358 posts

148 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Just randomly ended up browsing 'Honest John' and saw the review of the new Panda. It included this gem when talking about the TwinAir variant:

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Its noisy too and far from smooth, which means that it doesn't make for a relaxing drive. Compare it to a three-cylinder engine like the one in the new Up and you'd choose the Volkswagen one everytime. The one area where the TwinAir does well is economy. It will average a claimed 67.3mpg with CO2 emissions of 99g/km. The third engine available is the 1.3 MulitJet which has 75PS and good of torque with 190Nm.'

Now I own a 500 twinair and it does well in Eco mode to go much over 50 mpg on a motorway haul. It's known and been widely discussed in public forums that in real world conditions this is impossible. Honest John themselves have printed an article claiming the 1.2 is better for mpg iirc...

Stupid, lazy journalism in my opinion.

calibrax

4,788 posts

213 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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bilsland said:
Just randomly ended up browsing 'Honest John' and saw the review of the new Panda. It included this gem when talking about the TwinAir variant:

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Its noisy too and far from smooth, which means that it doesn't make for a relaxing drive. Compare it to a three-cylinder engine like the one in the new Up and you'd choose the Volkswagen one everytime. The one area where the TwinAir does well is economy. It will average a claimed 67.3mpg with CO2 emissions of 99g/km. The third engine available is the 1.3 MulitJet which has 75PS and good of torque with 190Nm.'

Now I own a 500 twinair and it does well in Eco mode to go much over 50 mpg on a motorway haul. It's known and been widely discussed in public forums that in real world conditions this is impossible. Honest John themselves have printed an article claiming the 1.2 is better for mpg iirc...

Stupid, lazy journalism in my opinion.
No, the article says "it will average a CLAIMED 67.3mpg". So, the article is just quoting the manufacturer's number, and qualifying it with the word "claimed". It's not saying it WILL do 67.3mpg.

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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calibrax said:
No, the article says "it will average a CLAIMED 67.3mpg". So, the article is just quoting the manufacturer's number, and qualifying it with the word "claimed". It's not saying it WILL do 67.3mpg.
And of course the CO2 numbers are important for those people who wear hemp trousers.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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davepoth said:
And of course the CO2 numbers are important for those people who wear hemp trousers.
Or those tempted by no RFL, tempted to get one as a runabout..

Condi

17,418 posts

173 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Jimboka said:
davepoth said:
And of course the CO2 numbers are important for those people who wear hemp trousers.
Or those tempted by no RFL, tempted to get one as a runabout..
Or those who live in London.

Or those on company car schemes.

Arthur Daley

269 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Read the same article, a load of bks, they clearly have yet to even see a new panda let alone drive one!

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Condi said:
Jimboka said:
davepoth said:
And of course the CO2 numbers are important for those people who wear hemp trousers.
Or those tempted by no RFL, tempted to get one as a runabout..
Or those who live in London.

Or those on company car schemes.
Interestingly the Up! (I hate that fking exclamation mark) will have even lower official numbers than the Panda, the 3 cylinder motor making 96g/km.

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

205 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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davepoth said:
And of course the CO2 numbers are important for those people who wear hemp trousers.
I agree, fk C02, I enjoy £460 a year RFL hehe

bilsland

Original Poster:

358 posts

148 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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calibrax said:
bilsland said:
Just randomly ended up browsing 'Honest John' and saw the review of the new Panda. It included this gem when talking about the TwinAir variant:

'
Its noisy too and far from smooth, which means that it doesn't make for a relaxing drive. Compare it to a three-cylinder engine like the one in the new Up and you'd choose the Volkswagen one everytime. The one area where the TwinAir does well is economy. It will average a claimed 67.3mpg with CO2 emissions of 99g/km. The third engine available is the 1.3 MulitJet which has 75PS and good of torque with 190Nm.'

Now I own a 500 twinair and it does well in Eco mode to go much over 50 mpg on a motorway haul. It's known and been widely discussed in public forums that in real world conditions this is impossible. Honest John themselves have printed an article claiming the 1.2 is better for mpg iirc...

Stupid, lazy journalism in my opinion.
No, the article says "it will average a CLAIMED 67.3mpg". So, the article is just quoting the manufacturer's number, and qualifying it with the word "claimed". It's not saying it WILL do 67.3mpg.
Appreciate that. my point (not clearly made as generally annoyed) is the complete lack of critical analysis or qualification of the official mpg figure which, in this case, is exceptionally different from the real world driving.