RE: Mazda Eunos Roadster: PH Fleet
RE: Mazda Eunos Roadster: PH Fleet
Tuesday 24th September 2013

Mazda Eunos Roadster: PH Fleet

Noisy exhaust and slidey eco tyres make up for a serious horsepower deficit at Goodwood



Those of an anti-MX-5 disposition look away now, there follows some evangelising about how 115hp and skinny tyres are all you need...

Carrying speed the only option with 115hp
Carrying speed the only option with 115hp
So it's been a while since my little Mazda was driven in anger and longer still since I've been on track. Both of these issues have now been addressed with a most entertaining outing at Goodwood, just a week after the Revival and following in the wheel tracks of considerably faster and more valuable cars.

But that's one of the rather wonderful things about Goodwood; any old Herbert who fancies a go can drive their own car, be it a Jaguar XK150, a GT-R or - in my case - a noisy old Mazda around the circuit. All of those and more were there the day I attended, adding to the flavour.

As previously reported, I've finally gone back to the original 14-inch daisy wheels, now a most un-original orange in colour and shod with Dunlop Sport BluResponse eco tyres. The hope being that a kilo off each corner in unsprung weight (going by the bathroom scales, now with tyre prints), some extra sidewall and mere 185-section rubber would put a bit of spring back in the Mazda's step, reduce the grip a tad and trade it for a bit of give and slip.

Diversity of Goodwood track day crowd in one pic!
Diversity of Goodwood track day crowd in one pic!
A quick oil change later I was ready to go, a shakedown with a non-driving visit to Bedford confirming that my 90db static should be fine for Goodwood's strict limit and I wouldn't have to re-fit my cat to get through. See dear, I told you it wasn't that loud really. Only it was, the Goodwood guys testing me at rather higher revs and the Mazda scraping through at bang on 98db static "before it did that little burble." Phew.

My thought was to take it easy and build up the speed gradually. Which I did. For the first few laps, before just taking a Colin McRae 'if in doubt, flat out' approach to Goodwood's fast, flowing corners. Which with 115hp is less heroic than it is in a GT40 in the wet.

Amazingly this was the first time I'd really had a chance to push the Performance 5 dampers and geo set-up too. And what a revelation.

Somewhat less valuable than the Revival exotica
Somewhat less valuable than the Revival exotica
What I love about the Mazda is that it forces you to carry speed through the corners because, let's face it, you ain't getting any for free on the straights. And the beautifully neutral stance the P5 set-up gives as a base-point just gives you so much scope. Even with progressively bolder entry speeds there was no sense of understeer, just a neat turn-in, lovely balance through the corner and just a smidge of four-wheel drift on the braver laps. Why on earth would you want more rubber?

Since changing to the smaller wheels I've found the front end a little bouncy so I wound the dampers up to maximum stiff on the track (backing the fronts a quarter turn softer to retain the balance) and it felt a little more planted. I had the 15-inch OZs and their wider, lower profile tyres in the M135i but didn't see the point in faffing about and changing them.

Clipping the apex taken a bit too literally...
Clipping the apex taken a bit too literally...
Once up to speed a lap of Goodwood went something like this; fourth down the pit straight, a modicum of a lift to aid turn-in to Madgwick, balanced throttle through the first apex and over the crest before feeding in the rest for the second with just the odd flicker of movement and a bit of load through the wheel, exiting at about 90mph before hitting 100 or so and fifth for the comfortably flat Fordwater. A confidence lift and downshift to fourth for No-Name (probably flat really) before a quick stab of stabilising brake and down to third for St Mary's. I could get pretty much immediately back on the power here, a little float over the crest and turn-in blending into a lovely neutral stance through the dip and to Lavant, taken in third and, again, held in a delightful balanced poise before the long drag up the straight.

By the end of the day I was braking for Woodcote at the 50 board, down to third and then hard on the power to the chicane, topping the lap off with a just smidge of oppo, more likely the result of roll rather than power oversteer but enough to style it up for those watching from the pits.

Flat out sounds heroic, until you factor in actual pace
Flat out sounds heroic, until you factor in actual pace
And then down the pit straight, exhaust blaring off the pitwall and turning to whichever ashen unfortunate was in the passenger seat shouting "...and it only cost me 1,200 quid!" Noise and a sense of speed in the place of the real thing had me grinning like an idiot by the time the day was out and once again in awe of the amount of fun this little car just keeps giving me.

And for what it's worth having revisited Harris's video on the subject I think he's absolutely bang on. It's not the be-all, end-all of driving pleasure or dynamics. It's not really a sports car. But it's a hell of a lot of fun for not much money. And I remain in awe of the smiles per hour it continues to give me. All I need now is for the ringing in my ears to stop.

Action photos by Nigel Cull


Fact sheet:
Car:
 1993 Eunos Roadster (JDM import model)
Run by: Dan Trent
Bought: January 2011
Purchase price: £1,250
Last month at a glance: A year's worth of cobwebs blown out at Goodwood in one morning; eco tyres now fully scrubbed in


Thanks to Goodwood - for track day info see here.


Previous reports:
Wheel refurb goes a bit ... colourful
Just how many wheels for your wagon?
Dan's Eunos loses its horn
Why have one wedding car when four will do?
Look, I was kidding about the downforce, right?
The Eunos returns to Scotland for another road trip
Has Dan killed his Eunos?





   
   
   
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dapearson

Original Poster:

4,456 posts

255 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Nice. I'd suggest getting a proper roll bar. TR Lane or something similar.

VladD

8,201 posts

296 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Great stuff, I really should get mine on track at some point.

rs4al

954 posts

196 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Same here mine is already for track (meister's, tr lane bar etc) but unfortunately work have me working on every trackday available out there

rs4al

954 posts

196 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Same here mine is already for track (meister's, tr lane bar etc) but unfortunately work have me working on every trackday available out there

Kozy

3,169 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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How did those tyres hold up on track out of interest?

I've got the Uniroyal RainExperts on mine and after one week and 12 autotest runs the nearside ones are so worn the car pulls heavily to the left! frown

I'd expect the harder eco tyres to fair a bit better than the soft as ste rain tyres in that regard...

405dogvan

5,329 posts

296 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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dapearson said:
Nice. I'd suggest getting a proper roll bar. TR Lane or something similar.
There's a danger that those wheels already make him look 'serious' - if he puts a rollbar in it people will expect it to actually be fast smile

I like the wheels actually - but they have a sense of 'I'm a RACER' about them...

suffolk009

8,004 posts

196 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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I have just put the same dunlops on my Eunos. Just got back from a 1500mile round trip to Angouleme, think they're just scrubbed in now.

The car was, as always, perfect, reliable, and big fun.

j_s14a

874 posts

209 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Good article.

But...

What I'd love to see is an article on improving the MX5 / Eunos for road use in the UK. This is where most '5s spend their time, and it is what the car was designed for.

Evo

3,462 posts

285 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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MY first thought was, no roll bar eek

Perfect car though for some trackday hooning driving

Itsallicanafford

2,961 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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...not a sports car? Try writing the history of the sports car without mentioning the MX-5...

V8RX7

28,982 posts

294 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Itsallicanafford said:
...not a sports car?
Exactly.

Dan try reading up on early sportscars - IE homemade Austin Seven specials and MG's in the 1920's etc.

They were mostly 2 seaters, convertible and they were underpowered compared to the big saloons

The MX5 typifies exactly what a sportscar is.

Bloody kids...



cheddar

4,637 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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V8RX7 said:
Itsallicanafford said:
...not a sports car?
Exactly.

Dan try reading up on early sportscars - IE homemade Austin Seven specials and MG's in the 1920's etc.

They were mostly 2 seaters, convertible and they were underpowered compared to the big saloons

The MX5 typifies exactly what a sportscar is.

Bloody kids...
+1

TameRacingDriver

20,603 posts

303 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Roll bar not a bad idea for safety on track, but the insurance companies treat you like a paedophile for having one, and it adds a lot of weight, which you don't really want in one of these.

j_s14a

874 posts

209 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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V8RX7 said:
Itsallicanafford said:
...not a sports car?
Exactly.

Dan try reading up on early sportscars - IE homemade Austin Seven specials and MG's in the 1920's etc.

They were mostly 2 seaters, convertible and they were underpowered compared to the big saloons

The MX5 typifies exactly what a sportscar is.

Bloody kids...
It's like Chris Harris stating recently that the Nissan R35 GTR is one of the best drivers cars ever...

The MX5 has levels of involvement that others can only dream of, but it doesn't really fit into PistonHeads agenda of flappy paddles, on board computers and 21" wheels with rubber band tyres. frown

re33

359 posts

195 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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j_s14a said:
Good article.

But...

What I'd love to see is an article on improving the MX5 / Eunos for road use in the UK. This is where most '5s spend their time, and it is what the car was designed for.
buy standard mx5... leave as is... there you go.

As for actual article, great stuff!

TameRacingDriver

20,603 posts

303 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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j_s14a said:
It's like Chris Harris stating recently that the Nissan R35 GTR is one of the best drivers cars ever...

The MX5 has levels of involvement that others can only dream of, but it doesn't really fit into PistonHeads agenda of flappy paddles, on board computers and 21" wheels with rubber band tyres. frown
I'm under the impression that most PHers would rather see manual boxes, no drivers aids and sensibly sized wheels. There are a number who seem obsessed with speed and pub bragging rights, but those who are genuinely interested in driving know that you don't need it to have fun.

Batfink

1,032 posts

289 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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If you are worried about a rollcage get an AE86. It handles very similar to the MX5. I think though it has a little less grip at the rear than the mazda due to more basic suspension design but its just as fun and slow.

HorneyMX5

5,794 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Glad you had fun, these things are such a riot on track. Fancy joining me and Hayward in November for a charity trackday at Goodwood?

j_s14a

874 posts

209 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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TameRacingDriver said:
I'm under the impression that most PHers would rather see manual boxes, no drivers aids and sensibly sized wheels. There are a number who seem obsessed with speed and pub bragging rights, but those who are genuinely interested in driving know that you don't need it to have fun.
I was referring to the journos, not the members smile

TameRacingDriver

20,603 posts

303 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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j_s14a said:
It's like Chris Harris stating recently that the Nissan R35 GTR is one of the best drivers cars ever...

The MX5 has levels of involvement that others can only dream of, but it doesn't really fit into PistonHeads agenda of flappy paddles, on board computers and 21" wheels with rubber band tyres. frown
I'm under the impression that most PHers would rather see manual boxes, no drivers aids and sensibly sized wheels. There are a number who seem obsessed with speed and pub bragging rights, but those who are genuinely interested in driving know that you don't need it to have fun.