Tug of War between Land Rover Defender and Ram Pickup

[esvcg]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 19 January 2014 at 16:29

[300bhp/ton]

esvcg said:

In the left corner we have a Land Rover Defender 90 powered by a 3.0-liter diesel engine, while in the right corner, a Ram pickup truck powered by a 5.9-liter Cummins diesel unit.

So before you watch the vid, who wins?


Video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhI-K0aAk8

4wd vs 2wd maybe??

What an f'ing pointless vid. And I'm a Land Rover owner.

[monthefish]

Is it the same video that did the rounds a few months ago?

[jdw1234]

The tyre, gearbox supplier/fitter.

:-)

[Shaw Tarse]

Can I smell peas being roasted? http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=133...

[Fartgalen]

300bhp/ton said:

4wd vs 2wd maybe??

What an f'ing pointless vid. And I'm a Land Rover owner.

Absolutely. And most likely high/low ratio Gbox against boggo automatic.

[esvcg]

agh, didnt see the above forum, altho it is a month old now!

[matchmaker]

Not what you'd expect!

[300bhp/ton]

matchmaker said:

Not what you'd expect!

Why??

A 2.5TD Land Rover with only 89bhp is rated to tow 3500kg, the Ram weighs less than this. And with the Ram in 2wd mode if won't have the traction to counter the pull.

[Chainguy]

esvcg said:

In the left corner we have a Land Rover Defender 90 powered by a 3.0-liter diesel engine, while in the right corner, a Ram pickup truck powered by a 5.9-liter Cummins diesel unit.

So before you watch the vid, who wins?


Video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhI-K0aAk8

Factory special that 300tdi was it?

That's one of the very few videos on you tube where if you dig into the comments it explains whats going on with the result. Unlike most responses which show why China and South Korea will pretty much own America one day soon.

[k-ink]

4x4 in more grip than 2WD shocker.

Now try an 8x8 v superbike.

[xRIEx]

Fartgalen said:

300bhp/ton said:

4wd vs 2wd maybe??

What an f'ing pointless vid. And I'm a Land Rover owner.

Absolutely. And most likely high/low ratio Gbox against boggo automatic.

And it looks like an open rear diff on the Ram.

[wildone63]

It comes down to whos got the most tyre traction not engine power

[soad]

A lot of tyre smoke towards the end.
Spin, spin, spin.

[LuS1fer]

Didn't Top Gear do this with a victorious tug of war team?

[itz_baseline]

esvcg said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxW_XCs7Afo just cos i bloody hate these smug defender things

That machine operator has some skills

[Krikkit]

LuS1fer said:

Didn't Top Gear do this with a victorious tug of war team?

Against a CL65, rather than a pewny Defender!

[Willy Nilly]

300bhp/ton said:

Why??

A 2.5TD Land Rover with only 89bhp is rated to tow 3500kg, the Ram weighs less than this. And with the Ram in 2wd mode if won't have the traction to counter the pull.

The Ram has a considerable weigh advantage over the LR. It has a 6.7 litre tractor engine to provide plenty of grunt and a fair bit of weight transfer. Assuming it's an auto, the driver should be able to gently increase pull without breaking traction. The 2wd 1/2 ton is rated to pull 10,350 lbs, that's double what the LR is rated at. As it's the diesel I think it will be a 1 ton and has a max towing capacity of about 30,000lbs. The person that took that video is on another channel I frequent and I'm lead to believe they were just pissing about, even so, the Dodge should have dragged the LR out of the county were it not all mouth and no trousers.

[tehguy]

I'm a Land Rover fan but if the Ram had working 4WD it would have pulled the Defender apart

[chevy-stu]

You can easily see the Ram only has 2WD and an open diff so in reality one working wheel of traction vs the Land Rovers proper locked 4WD.. no suprise really..