Borked RX8 + engine rebuild = £3k. Am I missing something?

Borked RX8 + engine rebuild = £3k. Am I missing something?

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Synchromesh

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2,428 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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The main issue with the RX8 (other than the fuel consumption) seems to be the disturbing regularity with which their engines give up. This depresses the prices on the used market, but always leaves the threat of £2k rebuild bill hanging over the buyer.

So, is the foolproof solution to buy one which has already blown its motor for shed money, then spend £2k getting the engine rebuilt, complete with 2 year warranty, from somewhere like Apex or Haywards? Surely this should give 2 years worry-free driving, with a working car to shift on at the end, for not a lot of cash. Or have I missed something?

pthelazyjourno

1,849 posts

171 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Synchromesh said:
Or have I missed something?
Apparently you've missed the fact there are loads of RX8s with 80k miles around. Dread to think what your life entails if that's 2 years motoring!

Considering how cheap perfectly good ones are, don't see why you'd bother buying a wrecked one - could get a few years out of it before the engine packs up anyway, plus years of trouble-free running after a rebuild.

It's not VHPD-like 30k-mile rebuild schedules as far as I can tell...

TREMAiNE

3,929 posts

151 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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pthelazyjourno said:
Synchromesh said:
Or have I missed something?
Apparently you've missed the fact there are loads of RX8s with 80k miles around. Dread to think what your life entails if that's 2 years motoring!

Considering how cheap perfectly good ones are, don't see why you'd bother buying a wrecked one - could get a few years out of it before the engine packs up anyway, plus years of trouble-free running after a rebuild.

It's not VHPD-like 30k-mile rebuild schedules as far as I can tell...
Agreed, they're all worth fk all apart from the final R3's. You can buy a perfectly good one for a small amount of money which will last a long time if you will look after it. I went from hating to loving mine - yet still wouldn't recommend one.

otolith

56,618 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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If you're risk averse, it would be a perfectly sensible way of going about it.

carinaman

21,387 posts

174 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pistonheads+RX-8...redfacefficial&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=NgKDUs70FsnZtAbNkIH4Bg

Many threads. I was admiring one near me a few months ago. The bloke said he'd just bought it for £1800 and it had just had £1800 spent on it. It was a nice orangey red metallic like the one Dale Lomas borked at the ring.

Daston

6,083 posts

205 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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As long as you sort the main problems out like upgrading the coil packs, HT leads and starter (if its an early one) then there shouldnt be too much of a bork factor.

The main killer of them is the coil packs, these break up which reduces the spark and causes the seals to perish as the unburnt fuel causes them to break up.

My brother got one very cheap, its done 50k miles.

It had the hot start issue but the compression seemed to be ok, so we swapped the plugs, coils, leads and starter motor and now it runs like a dream all for under £1k including the car lol.


Joeguard1990

1,185 posts

128 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Your spot on OP with this. You can even go as far as what I plan to do with my RX8 that the engine just went on. Hit up these guys:

http://www.rotarymotion.net/

They will fit an RX7 engine to the tune of around 450BHP into your RX8 with both ECUs running together so everything still works for a shade under £7k including VAT

0-60 in around 3.9 seconds

or if money's tight go for the standard 2K engine rebuild

The Chassis on these cars are excellent - can't go wrong with 50/50 weight distribution and an LSD!

greggy50

6,182 posts

193 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Joeguard1990 said:
Your spot on OP with this. You can even go as far as what I plan to do with my RX8 that the engine just went on. Hit up these guys:

http://www.rotarymotion.net/

They will fit an RX7 engine to the tune of around 450BHP into your RX8 with both ECUs running together so everything still works for a shade under £7k including VAT

0-60 in around 3.9 seconds

or if money's tight go for the standard 2K engine rebuild

The Chassis on these cars are excellent - can't go wrong with 50/50 weight distribution and an LSD!
Is it really on circa £7k? That sounds incredible value as could get a RX8 with a borked engine for circa £1500 then £1500 on some better brakes/suspension and would have an absolute weapon!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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greggy50 said:
Is it really on circa £7k? That sounds incredible value as could get a RX8 with a borked engine for circa £1500 then £1500 on some better brakes/suspension and would have an absolute weapon!
Well one chap on this thread bought one for sub £1k borked and fixed it all in incl purchase price of £1k.

Amazing value nice things too - lacking grunt needing a good thrashing to get going

trickywoo

11,946 posts

232 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Its the rubbish mpg that hits prices too.

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

215 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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You'll also have to put up with the oil consumption, and the fact it drinks more fuel than an Aston DB9. But they're great car's. You'd really have to want one.

otolith

56,618 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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High fuel consumption and high tax for the newer ones. But doesn't need super. Just something to factor in. If the other cars you are looking at do low to mid twenties on super and you don't do massive miles, maybe 20mpg isn't a big deal. If you do 30k a year and the other options are diesels...

otolith

56,618 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Oil consumption isn't a big deal, IMO. The oil is very cheap, and mine would do a couple of thousand miles between min and max on the dipstick.

ez64

233 posts

164 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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£600-£800 for a good one with a blown engine and about £800 in parts for a full rebuild as long as the rotors are not gone.

Winter project win!

Joeguard1990

1,185 posts

128 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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greggy50 said:
Is it really on circa £7k? That sounds incredible value as could get a RX8 with a borked engine for circa £1500 then £1500 on some better brakes/suspension and would have an absolute weapon!
Yep, there's an article in this month's BANZAI Japanese car magazine with the car featured (grab it before the new one is released on the 15th, has a white CRX on the front).

£6850 conversion price although price varies depending on what type of power figure you are after biggrin


MC Bodge

21,879 posts

177 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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ez64 said:
£600-£800 for a good one with a blown engine and about £800 in parts for a full rebuild as long as the rotors are not gone.

Winter project win!
I'd quite like to have a go at doing similar, although I'd need a bigger garage.

Herbs

4,928 posts

231 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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I love these and love the wankel engine but as a complete package it doesn't add up. You get the fuel consumption without the performance and the unreliability without the performance or wow factor.

Rx7 all day for me.

J4CKO

41,788 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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And then they still feel a bit gutless, needed a turbo to do the job properly.


vikingaero

10,539 posts

171 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Would Mazda have done better with the RX8 if they had offered an alternative 2.0T or a V6 in addition to the Rotary?

Joeguard1990

1,185 posts

128 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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vikingaero said:
Would Mazda have done better with the RX8 if they had offered an alternative 2.0T or a V6 in addition to the Rotary?
No, It would ruin the weight set-up and handling of the car. Any RX8 owner will tell you the engine is what makes it.

Don't forget at the time it won engine of the year!