RE: New info on UK Evo X return
RE: New info on UK Evo X return
Wednesday 12th March 2014

New info on UK Evo X return

Potential for 430hp-plus, but with only 40 on offer, get your order in now



Mitsubishi is rich - that's not PH speculating, that's what Mitsubishi Motors Corporation president, Masuko-san, told UK managing director Lance Bradley recently.

Most powerful Evo ever? Should be quick then!
Most powerful Evo ever? Should be quick then!
Finally, after eight years of losses, MMC is turning a profit; the firm was the fastest growing brand in the UK last year, apparently. So, still why no Evo on the books?

For a short period at least, that's about to change, as it's confirmed Mitsubishi will bring 40 examples of the most powerful Evo model ever to the UK. The special run-out vehicle - all painted white - will celebrate Mitsu's 40th anniversary in the UK, and although it'll be the last Evo X ever, it's going out with a bang.

Details are still scarce, but Bradley did confirm to PH at Geneva that "it'll be the most powerful Evo ever." That means we're looking at more than the 403hp and 387lb ft of torque from the last Evo X FQ-400.

According to Bradley, "The guys are developing it now", so 430hp could be on the cards. Maybe even 450hp. What's certain is it'll be blisteringly quick, looking set to outdo the FQ-400's 3.8-second 0-62mph sprint time.

Limited edition will be based on FQ-400
Limited edition will be based on FQ-400
With a five-speed manual 'box it'll also probably fall short of the FQ-400's less than Greanpeace friendly estimated efficiency of 17mpg with 340g/km CO2. Because that matters in a 400hp-plus turbo rally nutter. Obviously.

So candid is Bradley about his love for the Evo that once he's on the subject, he really gets into his stride:

"There isn't a race track in the country we can even test the car on because it's so loud. I've always driven an Evo since I've been at Mitsubishi, I still go into underground car parks and as I drive through it sets off all the car alarms. I love that and I probably shouldn't." Nice to know there's a 'car guy' at the helm of the UK arm of a company that prides itself on engineering.

And to the future of the Evo? Masuko will soon be replaced as president by Aikawa-san - he's another petrolhead more passionate for cars over numbers who's determined to put the pride back into Mitsubishi products. Surely that has to mean more Evos?

Evo doing what it does best
Evo doing what it does best
With the firm's on-going exploits into plug-in hybrid electric vehicles - or PHEVs - it stands to reason this special 40th anniversary model will be the last Evo powered solely by an internal combustion engine.

"I think there is a future for Evo," says Bradley. "I do think it'll be a plug-in hybrid when the next one does come. Once we've grown our volume, then it's time to look at what should be a replacement for the Evo - everyone benefits from having a halo product.

"When you're kind of repositioning yourself as a niche player with strong environmental credentials [like Mitsubishi is], it's slightly odd to say this 400hp-plus car doesn't meet any of the emissions legislation."

Want one of the 40? Tell Mitsubishi now!
Want one of the 40? Tell Mitsubishi now!
He's got a point, and an Evo PHEV would likely solve the current car's drinking problem, quitting its membership of Octane Anonymous, improving performance and dynamics through clever chassis and motor control as well.

For the moment, we're interested in the hottest Evo yet. But with only 40 examples on offer - all of which are "probably going to be sold before they arrive," according to Bradley - you'll have to get in there quick.

With a price tag likely to exceed the £50,000 FQ-400 it won't be cheap, but we're sure it will be fun.

 

 

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15yrold

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55 posts

186 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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WCZ

11,500 posts

223 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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my dealer told me it was SST only, though appears to have been correct about it only being white and £50k+

bashful

171 posts

259 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Setting off car alarms - 'car guy' or 'massive cock who spoils it for the rest of us'?

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Can't see the point of it being that loud, the engine note isn't nice enough to want to broadcast it to the world.

Can't help but feel ambivalent about this car. Yes its nice to see one last hurrah, but this isn't really a hurrah.

hondansx

4,700 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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I appreciate the Imprezas/Evos are considerably more involving, but surely there's no ignoring the new breed of super-hatches with over 350bhp, combined with decent economy, emissions and a decent interior?

With barely a single Evo remaining standard, i just don't see the need.

rtz62

3,788 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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"With a five-speed manual 'box it'll also probably fall short of the FQ-400's less than Greanpeace friendly estimated efficiency of 17mpg with 340g/km CO2. Because that matters in a 400hp-plus turbo rally nutter. Obviously."

Five speed? Really? Is that because a 6-speed wouldn't be deemed tough enough mechanically to take the torque....???

Ali_T

3,379 posts

286 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Er....they're all SST cars. This has already been confirmed from inside Mitsubishi. And unless they've opened up the box and strengthened the clutches, they won't get over 400 ibft without risking a major failure. Hell, mine didn't cope with 320 ibft for longer than 20,000 miles!

I was initially interested until I heard about them all being white and all SST. If it's over £50k, they can bugger right off! Who, in their right mind, would pay that for the joy of AYC failure, SST failure, constant brake juddering issues and a cabin that redefines the word "rattle".

He must also have a different engine than mine because I certainly don't go into carparks to listen to it drone away. It's a tool to make the car go faster but hardly a Subaru or Honda VTEC.

Edited by Ali_T on Wednesday 12th March 13:45

dukebox9reg

1,720 posts

177 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Plenty of tuners stick with the standard gearbox and I believe i'm right in saying that the last few Evo's struggled to meet track noise regs even as standard.

Shows how times have moved on. The first GTR retailed for the same price.

I like Evos but this just doesn't excite me.

Ali_T

3,379 posts

286 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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bashful said:
Setting off car alarms - 'car guy' or 'massive cock who spoils it for the rest of us'?

Ex Boy Racer

1,167 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Had a 6, 8 and 9 back in the day.

In the end I grew out of them - too noisy, too bumpy, too primitive.

But wouldn't change those years for anything!

Ali_T

3,379 posts

286 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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dukebox9reg said:
Plenty of tuners stick with the standard gearbox and I believe i'm right in saying that the last few Evo's struggled to meet track noise regs even as standard.

Shows how times have moved on. The first GTR retailed for the same price.

I like Evos but this just doesn't excite me.
The standard manual box is strong but SST is only reliable for 400bhp maximum, safer still 380. Some tuners open them up, replace the clutch packs and fluids and strengthen ten but that will immediately invalidate the Getrag warranty and leave Mitsu picking up the tab for a new box should they fail. Getrag won't let them open any normal SST boxes. They just get sent back and refurb'd.

dukebox9reg

1,720 posts

177 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Ali_T said:
dukebox9reg said:
Plenty of tuners stick with the standard gearbox and I believe i'm right in saying that the last few Evo's struggled to meet track noise regs even as standard.

Shows how times have moved on. The first GTR retailed for the same price.

I like Evos but this just doesn't excite me.
The standard manual box is strong but SST is only reliable for 400bhp maximum, safer still 380. Some tuners open them up, replace the clutch packs and fluids and strengthen ten but that will immediately invalidate the Getrag warranty and leave Mitsu picking up the tab for a new box should they fail. Getrag won't let them open any normal SST boxes. They just get sent back and refurb'd.
Sorry I was referring to the manual thinking it was a 6 spd. I'll shall stow my tits.

Ali_T

3,379 posts

286 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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I misread that as "show"!

The Evo X only has the 5 speed manual box. I have no idea why they downgraded unless they wanted to force people towards the SST. It's the only reason I bought it!

youngsyr

14,742 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Mitsubishi Dealership Email 4 Weeks ago said:
...all the cars will be in white solid paint and have the SST transmission
PH Today said:
With a five-speed manual 'box
So which is it - SST or manual?

Despite the Mitsubishi dealership email, I'm going to have to side with manual, as the SST just isn't capable of a reliable 400+ bhp without very significant modifications, all of which have been developed by aftermarket tuners in the US with no affiliation to Mitsubishi.

Even the manual might struggle on the reliability front at that power.

£50k could end up being a steal though - as the car will come with a 3 year warranty and may well therefore be over-spec'ed for the power. A simple boost hike and remap could see it closer to 500 bhp, which would make it a true weapon.


youngsyr

14,742 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Ali_T said:
I misread that as "show"!

The Evo X only has the 5 speed manual box. I have no idea why they downgraded unless they wanted to force people towards the SST. It's the only reason I bought it!
Owners routinely destroyed the 6 speed box, albeit usually at significantly higher than standard power levels.

dave_Sw1

251 posts

247 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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as someone who owns an unmodded Evo X360 i can safely say the current one wouldn't wake a doormouse in a carpark. 50k for a 6 year old design, not sure i'll be that keen but good luck Mitisi

DanielSan

20,006 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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Ali_T said:
I misread that as "show"!

The Evo X only has the 5 speed manual box. I have no idea why they downgraded unless they wanted to force people towards the SST. It's the only reason I bought it!
Isn't the 5 speed box stronger than the manual 6 speed one that was in the 8/9/10?

youngsyr

14,742 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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dave_Sw1 said:
as someone who owns an unmodded Evo X360 i can safely say the current one wouldn't wake a doormouse in a carpark. 50k for a 6 year old design, not sure i'll be that keen but good luck Mitisi
I suspect Lance Bradley is talking about his Evo X FQ-400 when he mentions setting off alarms (it has a custom exhaust). wink

paulmaurice99

125 posts

172 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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If it's the same guy that came up with FQ as a model name, you can make your own mind up on car guy vs cock.

10th generation and they haven't changed the formula? Everybody else has moved on, why can't they? 50k my arse

ndj

222 posts

251 months

Wednesday 12th March 2014
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"I think there is a future for Evo," says Bradley jester Yeah, right.

"the firm was the fastest growing brand in the UK last year, apparently" silly After multiple years of double digit percentage decline.

A washed-up brand with a washed-up MD. Someone switch the lights off......