Your Holy Grail?

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John Laverick

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1,996 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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What's your holy grail?

The car I want doesn't exist, does yours? If you could ask a manufacturer to build a custom spec. daily driver what would it consist of?

If I could ask any manufacturer to build me a car this is what I'd want:

BMW

M2 coupe proportions and body styling

4wd with 30/70 split F/R with active diff switchable to 100% rear. LSD in the rear.

A 'special' and characterful engine. Maybe a small capacity V8 with a supercharger. I want strong but (but not overly dominating) midrange for flexibility but with a 8k top end which pulls hard right to the limiter. Thinking 350bhp/300ftlb.

A three stage switchable exhaust. Mode 1 = subtle and quiet, Mode 2 = noisyish but restrained, Mode 3 = noisy with bangs/pops and crackles.

High quality club sport spec interior. Two comfortable bucket seats, trimmed roll cage. Minimal sound deadening, just enough to make a motorway schlep comfortable with a great stereo.

1200kg, pointy front end with a playful rear, sensible wheel diameter and width.

Heated seats and cruise control.

40mpg on a run and £30/£35k purchase price with great residuals.

Also to add:

Manual with the gearshift quality and pedal placement from a Cayman S.

Ability to mount a tow-bar ball for carrying bikes!

The Holy Grail!!

Edited by John Laverick on Wednesday 20th September 17:09

HedgeyGedgey

1,296 posts

100 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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You want a supercharged v8 with only 350bhp?!?!?!

4941cc

25,867 posts

212 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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The mooted M2 CS would fit the bill for just about all of that, aside from the optionally driven front axle. And the price.

Shiv_P

2,871 posts

111 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Why not 100000000000000mpg?

NDA

22,255 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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The Ford GT was my Holy Grail and I was lucky enough to have one new in 2005 and drove it for 6 years before selling.

I am not sure I have a 'Grail' car at the moment - a new Range Rover would be nice. smile

John Laverick

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220 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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HedgeyGedgey said:
You want a supercharged v8 with only 350bhp?!?!?!
I think 350bhp and 300 ft/lb shifting 1200kg would be a sweet spot between usability and exploitability on the road.

Wouldn't have to be a small capacity supercharged V8 it was just an idea. The engines soundtrack and characteristics are what's important.

Truckosaurus

11,991 posts

290 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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A used BMW 5-series estate with a v8 petrol engine and a manual gearbox.

(Although having said that, there is one (1) on Autotrader - once you discount the incorrectly listed M5)

John Laverick

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Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Shiv_P said:
Why not 100000000000000mpg?
Ha. I was trying to keep it mildly achievable within the realms of physics!

lee_fr200

5,530 posts

196 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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At the min I'd love a mclaren p1 with the mclaren F1 v12 no hybrid or batteries and tuned to around 900hp But a nice interior so you have the pace but a comfortable interior to go on road trips

Oh and getting rid of all the batteries and hybrid tech try and save a couple of hundred kilo


Edited by lee_fr200 on Wednesday 20th September 17:06

Arnold Cunningham

3,879 posts

259 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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My holy grail would be an aventador. smile

Toltec

7,167 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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An Evora GT430 sport with a padded bench in the back to take the dog, though a 400 that weighed the same as a 430 would do.




If it cost £30K...

Patrick-Peter

239 posts

89 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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My Holy Grail of a non existence car would be...
A McLaren F1 LT 3 seater body with the latest McLaren 720S brakes, gearbox and tech but thru a Lamborghini Aventador sounding v12 at 950 whp N/A



Integroo

11,585 posts

91 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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A roadster with a manufacturer approved bike rack for two that does 0 to 60 in under 7 secs. Preferably with VTEC.

John Laverick

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220 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Everybody suggesting super cars ..... I was thinking of a daily driver but keep them coming!

HedgeyGedgey

1,296 posts

100 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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John Laverick said:
I think 350bhp and 300 ft/lb shifting 1200kg would be a sweet spot between usability and exploitability on the road.

Wouldn't have to be a small capacity supercharged V8 it was just an idea. The engines soundtrack and characteristics are what's important.
350 is when remapped golfs will leave you behind!

mp3manager

4,254 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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A K20A Jazz Type R would be nice but this would do I suppose.

A 1.5l Turbo with 250bhp, sub 1,000kg, Recaros, Brembos, LSD, hydraulic steering and all for £22995.


Toltec

7,167 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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John Laverick said:
Everybody suggesting super cars ..... I was thinking of a daily driver but keep them coming!
No, the Evora is the everyday driver, compromise car, otherwise it would have been an Exige.

A BRZ with a flat 6 would be a less exotic option, something like a Cayman 981 2.7 would do.

Come to think of it a 1200kg Cayman with sensible gear ratios and an LSD without having to pay through the nose for the Porsche options list would do too.

A lightweight 2 series with a revvy low capacity V8 is a good shout though.

NDA

22,255 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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John Laverick said:
Everybody suggesting super cars ..... I was thinking of a daily driver but keep them coming!
Latest full fat Range Rover. No question. smile

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Focus RS Estate.

If I'm reeeeallly going to quible, a 4wd mk2 Focus RS Estate, or a mk3 Focus RS Estate with the engine from the mk2.

Toltec

7,167 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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HedgeyGedgey said:
350 is when remapped golfs will leave you behind!
Having a vodka enema will probably get you drunk faster too, but I'd still prefer to drink a sublime malt whiskey.