RE: 29k-mile Honda S2000 | Spotted
RE: 29k-mile Honda S2000 | Spotted
Tuesday 25th May 2021

29k-mile Honda S2000 | Spotted

S2000s haven't quite skyrocketed in value yet, as shown by this fine facelift, which is up for £22k



While it’s only been off sale since 2009, for a few years now, the Honda S2000 has felt like a modern classic in waiting. With its high-revving, naturally aspirated four-cylinder, manual gearbox and rear-wheel drive, not to mention handling that some found to be a little snappy especially in early examples, it’s authentically old school. Yet with Honda engineering and a design that wouldn’t look out of place on a (likely digital) 2021 motor show stand, it also offers a decidedly modern motoring experience. A PH hero through and through.

Plenty will attest that an S2000 is a sports car that can be used properly with much reward, although they’re not entirely invincible. As last year’s Pill showed, 158,000 miles needn’t be of concern in a cared for VTEC model, but well-used S2000s aren’t completely resilient to rust, especially when confronted with rain and salted wintry roads. The best way to avoid it, of course, is to keep such a car for high days and holidays, which we presume to have been the case of today’s 29,435-mile and 16-year-old Spotted. It’s averaged little more than 1,800 miles a year.

And hasn’t that done it good? This car looks almost box fresh both outside and in, with a lovely shade of blue paint that’s accented with a blue rag top and those silver 17-inch rims. The original buyer clearly had good taste, as the cabin is specced to match, oozing noughties cool with that retro-even-for-then digital rev counter and short, stubby gear knob poking out the transmission tunnel. Given the condition of that lot, we’re optimistic that the 2.0-litre’s 6,000-mile service intervals will have been met, so the oily bits ought to be as lovely as the leather and metal ones.


This being a facelift, it’ll have the chassis improvements Honda brought to the S2000 to better its on-the-limit handling. As PH well knows, the early cars can be a little spikey on the limit, thanks in part to the high-rev delivery of that four-cylinder and the throttle ‘adjustability’ that brings. Honda managed to widen the grip-to-slip window in its facelift model, and the result was a car that felt much more resolved and cohesive. And the key ingredient, that engine, remained fizzy and enthusiastic, even with some mild retuning that made it less peaky, shaving a few hundred revs off its original 9,000rpm limit for more mid-range punch.

As a driver’s car, it was and still is an exciting two-seater offering, so naturally, we have been expecting prices to climb in recent years. But this car’s £22,000 price suggests they’ve remained stable more than anything. That’s good news for a buyer, because it suggests the next rise in values is yet to come, making today’s Spotted appear as much a safe investment as it is a tremendous example of Honda’s old atmospheric ways.


SPECIFICATION | HONDA S2000

Engine: 1,997cc, 4-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 243@7,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 163@6,500rpm
MPG: 28.3
CO2: 236g/km
First registered: 2005
Recorded mileage: 29,000
Price new: £28,050
Yours for: £22,000

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Maccmike8

Original Poster:

1,559 posts

77 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Truly fantastic car. Shame about the interior and exterior colour.

Dermot O'Logical

3,451 posts

152 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Lovely, I often regret selling mine.

It isn't an AP2. UK cars were AP1, so this is a facelifted AP1, which has a different front bumper/air intake, oval exhausts, suspension upgrades, and a few other refinements.

WCZ

11,294 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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great cars, even 16 years later it still has much more bhp than a current mx5 or even a gt86

love how small and light they are, the only thing not to like is the tricky handling - I know a few people who crashed there's and havent crashed another car more than a decade later!

ogrodz

183 posts

143 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Said it before, but I just can't get over that hood sticking up at the back when in open top mode. Spoils the lines and looks like a design fault. Similar issue with an XJS convertible.

Zener

19,321 posts

244 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Stock brakes are awful once pushed , but what a credit to Honda this car is bow and that K motor is a legendary 4 banger , and the best shifting gearbox since the Ford 4 speed RWD days RS2000 , Capri's etc

soad

34,344 posts

199 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Maccmike8 said:
Truly fantastic car. Shame about the interior and exterior colour.
Red leather seats are great! biggrin

Numeric

1,499 posts

174 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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soad said:
Maccmike8 said:
Truly fantastic car. Shame about the interior and exterior colour.
Red leather seats are great! biggrin
I like red leather too but bright blue? I think the photo must have done something as they can't be that colour surely?

As for the car, at that price point and mileage and as I have never got on with the MX5 for some reason - this would be where my money would go. It really is rather special I reckon!

jwwbowe

695 posts

195 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Had one identical to this with a hardtop. Nurburgring blue is a awesome colour. Unfortunately sold towards a deposit of first mortgage, would have another in a heartbeat.

As said this is not a AP2, that is the lower reving version for the unlucky people of the US. nerd

Fantastic cars, though they are lairy on the limit, it caught me out more than once spin. The F20 engine rightfully gets the attention, but it’s the gearbox for me which is the star, not driven anything with a better action.

Edited by jwwbowe on Tuesday 25th May 15:14

Augustus Windsock

3,712 posts

178 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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A lad on my shift had one, red with black interior.
He loved it and I had a drive once, thinking it to be a great piece of kit, relative lack of torque notwithstanding. What surprised me was how diminutive the cars footprint actually was, until I saw his I believed them to be half a size bigger.
Personal taste of course, but I’ve never understood why cars like this have leather seats, why not have cloth / alcantara, because if you’ve ever jumped into a convertible on a summers day you find that the leather has a temperature just short of that of our sun...
A few years back I took my daughter and friend up to Wembley to see Wrong Direction, and not being that sort of music ‘fan’ decided to walk to The Ace Cafe. It was a Japanese car meet on that evening and there were a couple of supercharged examples, the owners of which extolled their virtues of extra boho but more importantly an increase in torque.

Paper Lawyer

251 posts

252 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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A couple of corrections from a long timer owner:

There's no such thing as the AP2 UK car - that's the 2.2l engined S2000 for the USDM.

There's no speccing of an S2000 either, as such from an OEM options perspective - a few bits of spoiler/trim is all you could add to the car.

Putting that aside, you do have to be careful re rust - I had mine resprayed a few years ago (including wheel arches repaired) but I can see a bubble or two that have developed on the sills. However, fingers crossed, the wheel arches are in much more solid shape. Mine has over 100k miles on the clock but does very little these days - from next week even driving into Birmingham ctiy centre will cost me £8 for the privilege!


roboR

203 posts

130 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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This is my "the one that got away". When I was 19 I had the chance of buying one of these for £15k, with around 10,000km on it. The dealer ended up messing me around and I got annoyed and decided I didn't want it as the dealer had soured the whole experience. Assuming I didn't wreck it at 19, I could have had it for the last 11 years and probably sold for what I'd bought it for. Instead I bought a... Honda Accord biggrin

Edit: It was black and I think 4/5 years old. The owner had bought it for his wife but she'd hated it any never driven often. Talk about missing out.

borat52

584 posts

231 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Zener said:
Stock brakes are awful once pushed , but what a credit to Honda this car is bow and that K motor is a legendary 4 banger , and the best shifting gearbox since the Ford 4 speed RWD days RS2000 , Capri's etc
I've not had the pleasure of driving a S2000 but another car for lovely gear shifts is, and its very specific to certain models, the sti5/6 version 5 speed imprezas.

It's only the V5/6 STi's that have this shift as far as I'm aware, certainly not the earlier imprezas, UK models or 6 speeds.

Black S2K

1,804 posts

272 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Numeric said:
soad said:
Maccmike8 said:
Truly fantastic car. Shame about the interior and exterior colour.
Red leather seats are great! biggrin
I like red leather too but bright blue? I think the photo must have done something as they can't be that colour surely?

As for the car, at that price point and mileage and as I have never got on with the MX5 for some reason - this would be where my money would go. It really is rather special I reckon!
Some sort of filter - in reality they're a sort of Depression Blue. About as interesting a colour as a Jiffex file.

benzinbob

750 posts

79 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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In yellow with some Mugen goodies, this colour reminds me of the early 2000s and those st ski shades folk thought were cool

KPB1973

938 posts

122 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Love these. I had a Monte Carlo blue one on 120k miles many moons ago which I bought for £3500 and sold for a profit 2 years later.

The shift action was a bit naff from cold and the whole car felt grumpy until it had warmed up. On my extended Sunday morning blasts it always felt that the harder and longer I drove it, the more BHP it found. It absolutely loved to be thrashed.

Unless it was wet, of course. They really can bite if you aren't careful. They are not a car for budget tyres!

Very easy to work on too, they are very simple cars in terms of tech but the level of engineering and componentry was very high.

Perhaps not as fully-rounded as the 986, but the things it does well (F20, looks and gear change) are truly superb.


gary71

2,013 posts

202 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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My son has just bought a slightly ropey one for £5750.
Sills are good, just needs TLC so hopefully he won’t lose any money on it.
Mental engine! I’ve yet to really try the chassis as it has four different tyres at the moment wink

gavin18787

114 posts

218 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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gary71 said:
My son has just bought a slightly ropey one for £5750.
Sills are good, just needs TLC so hopefully he won’t lose any money on it.
Mental engine! I’ve yet to really try the chassis as it has four different tyres at the moment wink
Should be a good investment if you can get it up to scratch. Certainly wont lose anything.

I remember when there were loads about for 5-6k, my mate picked up a great example.
One of those hindsight moments when I wish I had picked a couple up and tucked them away!
Always wanted one as I was into the honda scene at the time but couldn't justify a two seater frown Ended up getting a GT86 and the irony is that I now have access to another car and could have a two seater!

PS get those tyres changed pronto! WIll transform the car smile

cerb4.5lee

41,674 posts

203 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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I remember when these first came out and I had so much want for them. At the time I used to enjoy visiting different car garages just to browse their stock and I often used to see one of these(usually in red).

I often read that they are very marmite to drive though, and some seem to absolutely love them...whereas some think that they are a massive disappointment. I'd love to try one myself to make my own mind up about them though.

normalbloke

8,482 posts

242 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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jwwbowe said:
Had one identical to this with a hardtop. Nurburgring blue is a awesome colour. Unfortunately sold towards a deposit of first mortgage, would have another in a heartbeat.

As said this is not a AP2, that is the lower reving version for the unlucky people of the US. nerd

Fantastic cars, though they are lairy on the limit, it caught me out more than once spin. The F20 engine rightfully gets the attention, but it’s the gearbox for me which is the star, not driven anything with a better action.

Edited by jwwbowe on Tuesday 25th May 15:14
You are mistaken. Everybody knows that it is really known as ‘ladyboy’ blue, which, when added to that interior, has to be the worst combination of colours on an S2K. Reflected in prices accordingly.

gary71

2,013 posts

202 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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gavin18787 said:
gary71 said:
My son has just bought a slightly ropey one for £5750.
Sills are good, just needs TLC so hopefully he won’t lose any money on it.
Mental engine! I’ve yet to really try the chassis as it has four different tyres at the moment wink
Should be a good investment if you can get it up to scratch. Certainly wont lose anything.

I remember when there were loads about for 5-6k, my mate picked up a great example.
One of those hindsight moments when I wish I had picked a couple up and tucked them away!
Always wanted one as I was into the honda scene at the time but couldn't justify a two seater frown Ended up getting a GT86 and the irony is that I now have access to another car and could have a two seater!

PS get those tyres changed pronto! WIll transform the car smile
Got a new set of tyres on order, will go together with a wheel refurb. Also got about £600 of bushes and bolts arriving to replace all the seized ones so we can get the geometry done.
Get it driving right first, then he can polish it!