RE: Honda Legend | High Mile Club

RE: Honda Legend | High Mile Club

Monday 21st June 2021

Honda Legend | High Mile Club

One owner from a year old, almost 200k and a full Honda service history - what else did you expect from a Legend?



Since the Lexus LS400 arrived in the UK more than 30 years ago, the Japanese executive saloon has typically adhered to a familiar template. The luxury would be boundless, the technology incredible, the reliability unbeatable... and the image a bit staid. With driving dynamics and styling typically on the plain side, British customers tended to shun the Japanese cars and opt for the edgier German offerings instead.

But if dependable and durable are not the most alluring traits when new, they make a car look jolly attractive secondhand. Nobody wants the bills of a new luxury saloon when paying a fraction of the new price, at which point the usual suspects arguably become a lot less appealing. And when the Honda Legend starts to shine.

It's easy to have forgotten about the Legend. It was ordinary to look at, Honda only ever expected to sell 400 a year in the UK and the first ones are now 15 years old. But it was notable for its technology, as so many flagship saloons are, introducing features to the segment that seemed wildly futuristic a decade and a half ago. For less than £40,000, buyers got night vision, lane keep assist and - get this - torque vectoring. In 2006! The Super Handling All-Wheel Drive was clever even by today's standards, and bestowed the big Legend with unexpected agility. Up to 70 per cent of the 3.5-litre V6's torque could go to the rear axle, where up to 100 per cent of that could go to either side. Maybe Honda would have sold more if they'd created a Drift Mode...



Though predictably few found UK buyers, this particular Legend is the almost perfect example of what a Japanese luxury saloon could achieve. And, it should be said, the kind of buyer it attracted. Registered in 2007 and with its second owner by the time it was a year old, this Legend has stayed with them ever since, racking up an impressive 188,000 miles in the process. With, of course, a full Honda service history to back it up, including a timing belt at 184,000 miles.

The MOT history is similarly unscary, with mostly fails for consumables, which is to be expected when so many miles are accrued between each one. It failed on a thin brake pad in 2017; otherwise, the Legend would have gone from 2013 to 2020 with a clean ticket every year, from 97,000 to 176,000 miles. And what did it fail for last year? An insecure rear numberplate. There aren't many cars made like this, surely. The advisories for this year, after the windscreen for which it failed was replaced, were two slightly damaged mirrors - that's it. At 185,000 miles.

And while there are signs of wear here - it would be weird if there weren't any - the Legend looks more than good enough for a few more years stress-free, low maintenance, mega plush motoring. We've surely all seen cars with a lot less than 180k look far worse than this. Though taxing and fuelling an old, large V6 won't be cheap in 2021, there is the tiny £3k asking price to factor in as well. Good luck finding a Lexus LS for that little now. So for anonymous yet intriguing luxury motoring that can seemingly survive anything, bargain barge buyers could honestly do an awful lot worse than searching out a Legend.

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Cambs_Stuart

Original Poster:

2,956 posts

86 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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These look smart and good value for money, tax aside. I had a look before buying a mechanically simpler subaru legacy spec B estate for similar money.

swisstoni

17,346 posts

281 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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I had them on my shed/barge shortlist but they were always rare and so never really fell into bargain range while they had any useful life in them.


TheOrangePeril

778 posts

182 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Lovely car and probably good for 800k before anything serious borks

spreadsheet monkey

4,545 posts

229 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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TheOrangePeril said:
Lovely car and probably good for 800k before anything serious borks
US car forums always complain about the durability of Honda transmissions from this era. Don't know if that's true of UK-market cars as well.

Limpet

6,370 posts

163 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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I had no idea these were AWD.

Ridiculous amount of car, and a lot of engineering quality for £3k.

Super Sonic

5,467 posts

56 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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"... the first ones are now fifteen years old."
When I moved into my flat twenty years ago there was a lovely white one, with a blue interior,abandoned in the car park, and that was fifteen years old then. I would have bought it,but couldn't trace the owner,and probably wouldn't have been able to afford to run it anyway. It had BBS style wheels,but they were Honda original fitment. It eventually got taken away, a sad ending for a beautiful car :-(

CoffeePls

99 posts

40 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Although the Legend hasn't been on sale in a while in the UK, Wikipedia states that 2020 was the last year for the Legend in the US. And that there was an announcement this month that the plant that builds the Legend for Japan will close, with no successor planned.

I've just added another entry to my list of reasons to dislike SUVs.

Andy83n

404 posts

64 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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The late 80's versions were sublime

Jader1973

4,099 posts

202 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Limpet said:
I had no idea these were AWD.

Ridiculous amount of car, and a lot of engineering quality for £3k.
Not just AWD - SH-AWD: Super Handling All Wheel Drive.

So obviously better.

Speed1283

1,172 posts

97 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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No idea why, but I really like that, I imagine the auto box saps a little of the performance and efficiency, although at c. 1.8 tonnes I guess 7 seconds to 60 with a little less than 300bhp NA engine isn't so bad. The 530i (N52) was high 6's I believe.

Is rust likely to be a concern on these?


mike-v2tmf

786 posts

81 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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A financial disaster looking for a wallet to happen in

Amanitin

427 posts

139 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Jader1973 said:
Not just AWD - SH-AWD: Super Handling All Wheel Drive.

So obviously better.
it includes a continuously variable front/rear left/right torque vectoring system with the ability to overdrive the outer rear wheel during hard cornering. Never driven one but on paper it is far more sophisticated then a run of the mill Haldex. Or quattro, for that matter.

Edited by Amanitin on Monday 21st June 13:08

Numeric

1,414 posts

153 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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I am sure many will disagree but for me the high point for Honda was the first gen Honda Jazz period before they seemed to put marketing in front of functionality (the cars also seemed to feel more fragile as well) check out the brilliant and no doubt horribly expensive seat folding in that Jazz if you want to see what I mean.

This car seems to also epitomise that period - yes a bit dull but utterly great engineering from a time when that seemed to count much more than big wheels.

It's strange how often we are disappointed by the cars that are 'bling' while the cars with real deep rooted integrity are the ones we look back with the greatest fondness to... ah my old 190e

mw88

1,457 posts

113 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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188k is nothing laugh

My 2003 Accord Type-S is pushing 286k


MyV10BarksAndBites

972 posts

51 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Amanitin said:
Jader1973 said:
Not just AWD - SH-AWD: Super Handling All Wheel Drive.

So obviously better.
it includes a continuously variable front/rear left/right torque vectoring system with the ability to overdrive the outer rear wheel during hard cornering. Never driven one but on paper it is far more sophisticated then a run of the mill Haldex. Or quattro, for that matter.

Edited by Amanitin on Monday 21st June 13:08
And that enables it to have "Super Handling" in its title laugh

I love the Japanese for things like this beer

chirurgus

148 posts

218 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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mw88 said:
188k is nothing laugh

My 2003 Accord Type-S is pushing 286k

Don’t exaggerate, that’s barely more than 285k!

Lexmaster

58 posts

36 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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I wonder how this gen Legend compares to the equivalent LS430 from that time regarding ride and build quality.
Always preferred the look of the Honda though.

Edited by Lexmaster on Monday 21st June 14:43

hammerpads

5 posts

129 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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I’ve had mine for nearly 8 years and it’s on 192k. Best car I’ve had. Very understated and underrated car. It’s got a full Honda service history and EVERYTHING works. The radar cruise control on a car from 2007 is superb and makes motorways a breeze. The Bose stereo is great as are the heated and cooled seats. With a set of Michelin Alpin winter tyres I’ve had no issues or dramas in the snow. It’s only let me down once with a broken crankshaft pulley which I thought would have destroyed the engine but I was very lucky and Honda Cardiff got me back on the road.
No idea what I’ll replace it with when the time eventually comes but I hope that’s a long time away.

raspy

1,589 posts

96 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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What an interesting choice..until I realised that road tax is £600 a year for these cars.

The car is also listed on Autotrader by the dealer and Autotrader reckons it's £739 above the market average..

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106193...

Some people seem to think these cars are worth silly money though. Another 2007 Legend is on Autotrader for £7,495 with 120k fewer miles

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202105152...

Mark-C

5,272 posts

207 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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raspy said:
What an interesting choice..until I realised that road tax is £600 a year for these cars.

The car is also listed on Autotrader by the dealer and Autotrader reckons it's £739 above the market average..

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106193...

Some people seem to think these cars are worth silly money though. Another 2007 Legend is on Autotrader for £7,495 with 120k fewer miles

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202105152...
Why do people worry about Road Tax on something like this - that's £50/month which is negligible compared to the borkage potential of many other similarly miled\cost cars.