RE: Porsche launches 265hp Macan T for 2022
RE: Porsche launches 265hp Macan T for 2022
Thursday 17th February 2022

Porsche launches 265hp Macan T for 2022

An electric Macan is imminent, but Porsche isn't done with the petrol one just yet...



It's always been easy to sneer at the Porsche 'T' models, on paper at least. Without huge power gains and with seemingly modest chassis updates, they have been easy to dismiss as marketing ploys cashing in on classic Porsche branding. Only problem being that all of the Ts thus far - both 718 Boxster and Cayman, plus 991-era 911 - have been a real treat to drive. Not night and day different, perhaps, but just sufficiently improved to make the premium over a standard car seem worth paying.

Confident that it has the formula down to a, er, tee, Porsche has now applied the same logic to the Macan. It is the first four-door Porsche T, wouldn't you know, and follows the template laid down by the others: i.e. based on the standard model (here the 265hp 2.0-litre), albeit with a chassis setup unavailable elsewhere in the range. Garnish with sporty styling bits, charge a few thousand more, then watch the cynicism ebb away as soon as hands are behind the now-standard heated GT sports wheel.

But the Macan ought to have its work cut out, even by the standards of Porsche Ts. No more power than standard is an easier pill to swallow in a 300hp Cayman or 370hp 911, less so arguably in a 265hp Macan, the four-cylinder never quite feeling to do the smallest Porsche SUV justice. Furthermore, though it's claimed the Macan T is 58.8kg lighter over its front axle than a V6-engined car, there's no mention of any weight saving over a standard 2.0-litre. Which would also therefore be 58.8kg lighter. Indeed 0-62mph in 6.2 seconds and a top speed of 144mph are identical to the Macan, but the T is £5,000 more expensive - you can see where the cynicism might find purchase.



The chassis is where the T might justify its premium, thanks to a bespoke setup. So it has steel springs (lower by 15mm than a standard Macan) with PASM dampers, which is said to be a unique arrangement (presumably as the lowered Macans are often on air springs). The T also gets stiffer front anti-roll bars, recalibrated traction control and chassis tuning "optimised for the specific vehicle and powertrain combination, resulting in agile handling and very responsive steering behaviour." Again, it doesn't sound much, but that's what Porsche does so well. If they wish, customers can further enhance their T experience with air suspension that drops the ride height another 10mm, plus Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus.

Those that aren't eagle-eyed enough to spot a Macan T via the ride height alone (they must be out there) will be able to identify the new model thanks to Agate Grey accents for the mirrors, rear spoiler, side blades and front end. The wheels are the 20-inchers borrowed from the Macan S, albeit painted in dark titanium. Best like grey then. Interior enhancements include T-specific upholstery with Sport-Tex bits, more silver-grey highlights, and some Macan T logos. There's no mention here of ditching the PCM infotainment as in other Porsche T models (thank goodness).

According to Porsche, the new Macan T will "be immediately at home along winding country roads... further amplifying the typical Porsche qualities of responsiveness and agility." Which sounds corny as anything, of course, but then the hugely popular Macan has made a habit of proving Porsche right over the years. We'll know whether the T is another when it arrives on UK soon - it's on sale now, with deliveries due in the spring. That £5k premium over a base model makes the Macan T £53,970, or just £660 less than a 380hp, V6 Macan S. Best hope it drives really, really well...






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churchie2856

Original Poster:

532 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Never once did I think a T was missing from the Macan line up.
(Last month I ordered a 2.0 Macan as a daily).

PHZero

1,413 posts

124 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Great name for a car.

Hopefully they don't follow other brands' naming conventions for the electric model:

I-MacanT.

off_again

13,917 posts

265 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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churchie2856 said:
Never once did I think a T was missing from the Macan line up.
(Last month I ordered a 2.0 Macan as a daily).
Annoying isnt it? Bought a Macan S, just before they announced the updated 2022 model. No one mentioned it at the time either. But hey, everything went stupid touch buttons and I prefer the real buttons anyway! So no loss to me. But you need to be in on the 'know' when buying a Porsche.

Phil-6puy8

41 posts

133 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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If you were in the know you’d prob not have bought one at all. It’s about 3 million years old now. The second gen Audi Q5 is old enough… If you’re in the know you’ll know. No to Macan

Bobtherallyfan

1,520 posts

109 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Phil-6puy8 said:
If you were in the know you’d prob not have bought one at all. It’s about 3 million years old now. The second gen Audi Q5 is old enough… If you’re in the know you’ll know. No to Macan
It may be old but it’s still streets ahead of most SUV’s for the ability to combine family duties with driving pleasure. It seems to defy the laws of physics on twisty roads. That said, the ‘T’ nomenclature is a bit daft….it made sense on the 911 because it was following an historical context…but on an SUV?

Cobnapint

10,166 posts

182 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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This might be pushing the T model thing a bit too far.

Dale487

1,469 posts

154 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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churchie2856 said:
Never once did I think a T was missing from the Macan line up.
(Last month I ordered a 2.0 Macan as a daily).
Personally I don't see the additional equipment that the T gets makes it a better day to day car - but it would have been nice for you to have known the T was coming.

churchie2856

Original Poster:

532 posts

221 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Dale487 said:
churchie2856 said:
Never once did I think a T was missing from the Macan line up.
(Last month I ordered a 2.0 Macan as a daily).
Personally I don't see the additional equipment that the T gets makes it a better day to day car - but it would have been nice for you to have known the T was coming.
Agree. For a daily none of the "T'ness" makes much sense and hence the diference can be put towards more useful options. On the slower and family friendly Macan, the T fills a niche of niches i.e. look like a lowered S, but not as fast, though with better handling that no one would ever seek to exploit on public roads. On the 718 Cayster, the T made for a different handling take on the quick base car.
(I previously owned a non-T 2.0 718 Cayman as a daily - I could have ordered the T but wanted 18 inch wheels).

Edited by churchie2856 on Thursday 17th February 09:15

Dale487

1,469 posts

154 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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churchie2856 said:
Dale487 said:
churchie2856 said:
Never once did I think a T was missing from the Macan line up.
(Last month I ordered a 2.0 Macan as a daily).
Personally I don't see the additional equipment that the T gets makes it a better day to day car - but it would have been nice for you to have known the T was coming.
Agree. For a daily none of the "T'ness" makes much sense and hence the diference can be put towards more useful options. On the 718 Cayster, the T made for a different take on the quick, but base car. But on the slower and day to day hack Macan, it really fills a niche of niches i.e. look like a lowered S, but not as fast.

(I previously owned a 2.0 718 Cayman as a daily).
The T makes sense on the sports cars & I think they'll be sort after like the Club Sport on the used market, compared to the base models at least.

With the Macan it would have made more sense for T to be literally a touring model; sound insulated glass, upgraded stereo, driving assistance systems, speed limiter and other options that would make a long journey or the day to day more relaxing and easier.

But I guess that goes against the T brand template and we can spec our own Macan Touring.

Mark Asread

3,367 posts

170 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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I really don't get the T thing. I had a sniff around a Boxter T in the showroom last week, and it was covered in distinctly non-touring sport/track stuff, yet had the weedy 2.0. Very confusing thing.

gregd

1,805 posts

250 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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I wish they would just hurry up and do the (manual) 992T already!

px1980

427 posts

84 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Phil-6puy8 said:
If you were in the know you’d prob not have bought one at all. It’s about 3 million years old now. The second gen Audi Q5 is old enough… If you’re in the know you’ll know. No to Macan
Have you driven one? I have a 2018 Macan Turbo and it’s amazing. I’ve looked at every possible alternative and cannot think of a car that meets the sporty+family-wagon+medium-sized brief better.

benzinbob

750 posts

87 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Phil-6puy8 said:
If you were in the know you’d prob not have bought one at all. It’s about 3 million years old now. The second gen Audi Q5 is old enough… If you’re in the know you’ll know. No to Macan
Strange thing to say.

Largechris

2,019 posts

122 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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off_again said:
churchie2856 said:
Never once did I think a T was missing from the Macan line up.
(Last month I ordered a 2.0 Macan as a daily).
Annoying isnt it? Bought a Macan S, just before they announced the updated 2022 model. No one mentioned it at the time either. But hey, everything went stupid touch buttons and I prefer the real buttons anyway! So no loss to me. But you need to be in on the 'know' when buying a Porsche.
You really aren't missing out on anything, brought my Macan last year knowing all the haptic rubbish was coming and knowing I didn't want it.

Some of the Porsche model designations and upgrades can almost seem like good value, my previous S was a good deal for the extras, but can't see 5K of value in this particular T.

thewarlock

3,285 posts

76 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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I always thought the Macan dash was a bit of a mess.

What is that clock doing there? And why are there a million buttons down either side of the stick.

Just seemed a bit lazily designed to me.

I'd heard the Macan handles well, how does it compare to a Q5? Pretty similar? Or significantly better?

cerb4.5lee

45,207 posts

211 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Never in a million years would I go for the 4 cylinder version when the V6 version is only £660 more expensive. I don't know why...but I've always struggled with cars costing over £50k and only having a 4 cylinder engine under their bonnet, maybe I am just a little bit odd!

CoolHands

23,672 posts

226 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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I thought T meant turbo

RicksAlfas

14,584 posts

275 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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They should do a Macan GB with air suspension and big squidgy all season tyres for our crappy roads.

Mark Asread

3,367 posts

170 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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thewarlock said:
I always thought the Macan dash was a bit of a mess.

What is that clock doing there? And why are there a million buttons down either side of the stick.

Just seemed a bit lazily designed to me.

I'd heard the Macan handles well, how does it compare to a Q5? Pretty similar? Or significantly better?
Conversely, I think the Macan cabin is far and away the best in its class. There's nothing can touch Macan / Cayenne / Panamera interiors. They're exquisite and make everything short of a Bentley look second rate. It's all personal taste, of course.

The haptic buttons on Panamera / Cayenne are fantastic, but on the Macan I tried they weren't haptic, just touch, and a bit rubbish. Not sure if it was just turned off in the settings maybe?

The clock, I agree with. Very annoying. It's the chrono from the sport chrono pack, which I would absolutely not choose on the above models. Maybe on a 911 or 718.

thewarlock

3,285 posts

76 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Mark Asread said:
thewarlock said:
I always thought the Macan dash was a bit of a mess.

What is that clock doing there? And why are there a million buttons down either side of the stick.

Just seemed a bit lazily designed to me.

I'd heard the Macan handles well, how does it compare to a Q5? Pretty similar? Or significantly better?
Conversely, I think the Macan cabin is far and away the best in its class. There's nothing can touch Macan / Cayenne / Panamera interiors. They're exquisite and make everything short of a Bentley look second rate. It's all personal taste, of course.

The haptic buttons on Panamera / Cayenne are fantastic, but on the Macan I tried they weren't haptic, just touch, and a bit rubbish. Not sure if it was just turned off in the settings maybe?

The clock, I agree with. Very annoying. It's the chrono from the sport chrono pack, which I would absolutely not choose on the above models. Maybe on a 911 or 718.
I've only spent 10 minutes sitting in one, my comment was specifically about the dash, I can't really comment too much on the rest of the interior, so I'll take your word on that.

Interiors, generally, aren't something I get too excited about, my daily driver is a 16 year old Nissan that leaks a bit, the interior is pretty dreadful, and I don't really care, but, I reckon the interior, dash, seats, glass roof, the lot, is nicer in our Q5 than the Macan.

Variety is the spice of life and all that jazz.