RE: Renaultsport Clio 172 Cup | PH Fleet
RE: Renaultsport Clio 172 Cup | PH Fleet
Saturday 23rd April 2022

Renaultsport Clio 172 Cup | PH Fleet

Ben already owns a Megane 275 Cup-S - only one car he could reasonably buy then...



It's a fair assumption that most of us on PH spend a lot of time daydreaming about cars we aspire to own. Many will be out of budget (the man maths problem) while some might be more affordable, but difficult to justify (more man maths). My rose-tinted view of Lotus ownership means I fantasise about returning to it daily - but, as you can see, I've spent a good deal more time in the latter camp recently.

I covered less than 5k miles in my Renaultsport Megane 275 Cup-S last year, and that's unlikely to change in 2022. I definitely don't need another car, nor do I really have the space or time for one in my life right now either. But since when has that stopped any of us...

A few months ago I was out with PHer thelostboy in his Huracan Performante, and when I asked him what his favourite car was he'd ever owned, the answer was his Renaultsport Clio 182 Trophy. And while I haven't owned anything else as exotic as his back catalogue to set it against, I found myself coming to the same conclusion.



I've owned three Meganes and four Clios including a 182 Trophy, but the car that has always stuck with me is my 172 Cup. Sure, out of the factory the 182 Trophy with its trick Sachs dampers and Recaro Trendline seats is the better car. But with a few modest adjustments, a 172 Cup is just as exciting to drive - perhaps even more so.

The thinner glass, lack of ABS, air-conditioning and sound deadening certainly makes it feels more raw, and definitely more frenzied when hurled down the nearest B road. My first Clio replaced the Elise, and while the Lotus was sensational to drive, I did find myself being a bit more wary in it. Whereas in a Clio worth a fraction of the value - and with considerably cheaper parts if I were to back it into a hedge - it was much easier to throw caution to the wind. Which does rather amplify the fun.

Enter, then, Renaultsport number eight - a 2003 Clio 172 Cup. This one was owned by a mate who spent a considerable amount on it during his tenure. And in truth, I've been wearing him down for a while on the subject of who the next owner should be. Of course, there's a sense of enormous satisfaction in buying a secondhand car you know very well; it removes much of the trepidation - especially when it's nearly 20 years old. And increasingly prone to rust.



I know for a fact that this car has none of that. I also know that it's going to be used primarily as a toy, so the infamous absence of niceties like climate or cruise control isn't a factor. Values for the 172 - so often at the bottom of the bargain bucket - are generally on the up, although there is a tendency for them to have passed through the hands of people who are disinclined to maintain them properly.

Again, that's obviously not an issue with VU53 SVO. In the last 12 months it has had a considerable amount of work done to it; the more exciting bits being Bilstein B14 coilovers, a K-Tec induction kit, a Pure Motorsport exhaust system complete with a 200-cell sports cat and Recaro Trendline seats from an Evo 7.

I've no immediate plans other to enjoy driving it, which I've done every day since I bought it. Mostly just for the sake of it. Obviously I feel completely spoilt having this alongside my Megane, but while they're both hot hatches from the same manufacturer, they couldn't be more different to drive. More on that next time!


Car: 2003 Renaultsport Clio 172 Cup
Run by: Ben Lowden
On fleet since: April 2022
Mileage: 57,889





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mikebradford

Original Poster:

3,180 posts

176 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Had a basic 1.6 clio and went for a test drive of one of these after hearing rave reviews.
Didn't feel significantly faster than my 1.6 and had terrible understeer.

The salesman did grip onto the grab handle and look sheepish when getting out so feel I did give the car an opportunity to shine.

They did look great at the time, but not as much as the Williams version did over that years models

Cambs_Stuart

3,543 posts

115 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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That looks like a really good example.i've got a non-cup 172 and it's the most fun thing to drive I've ever owned. Not the fastest, or the best built, and definitely not the most comfortable, but for a fun at legal speeds it's just fantastic.

Hothouse

122 posts

121 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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That looks fabulous. Just missing Racing blue paint to make it the ultimate no nonsense bit of driving pleasure. Never driven a 1#2 but my Williams was awesome and only assume the 172 improved on this where it mattered.
So agree with you about the pleasure vs cost issue.
Got a v6 lotus and Clio 200 and I've no doubt which I'm more comfortable exploring the extremes in.

p4cks

7,543 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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I'd kill for another one of these, I absolutely loved mine!

frayz

2,809 posts

190 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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You know my thoughts on this Ben.
Well done mate, welcome back to the slippery slope of Clio ownership. biggrin


Buffalo Girls

298 posts

243 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Brilliant cars. Mondial Blue and no a/c, perfect spec.

buccal

545 posts

223 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Peak Clio! Lovely spec.

Having bought a 182 from your mate previously, it will be a properly sorted car.

Edited by buccal on Saturday 23 April 16:22

pb8g09

3,294 posts

100 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Love the front, the seats and the wheels, but I can't help feeling that the rear looks too boggo spec. The 182 rear diffuser/tailpipes really make it for me with these old Clios.

Zarco

21,156 posts

240 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Buffalo Girls said:
Brilliant cars. Mondial Blue and no a/c, perfect spec.
yes

They nailed it with that colour and those wheels.

Had great fun in mine. Travelled all over the country just to drive it (Wales/Scotland/Isle of Man).

Galveston

778 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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pb8g09 said:
Love the front, the seats and the wheels, but I can't help feeling that the rear looks too boggo spec. The 182 rear diffuser/tailpipes really make it for me with these old Clios.
That’s a large part of the appeal for me. Very understated, but a joyous little thing to drive.

Mine’s bog-standard. It’s a fabulously fun little road car. I use it for sprints and hillclimbs - it punches far above its weight, it’s won me two national championships, but most importantly of all… it’s so fun to drive.

I can’t ever imagine selling it. Others come and go (including the 200 which is currently sitting next to it on the drive - meh) but the Cup’s staying.

Galveston

778 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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mikebradford said:
Had a basic 1.6 clio and went for a test drive of one of these after hearing rave reviews.
Didn't feel significantly faster than my 1.6 and had terrible understeer.

The salesman did grip onto the grab handle and look sheepish when getting out so feel I did give the car an opportunity to shine.

They did look great at the time, but not as much as the Williams version did over that years models
Mine (standard) is quicker in a straight line than any standard 2 litre hatch it’s ever competed against (hillclimbs/sprints). It’s gutsy, flexible, and has razor-sharp throttle response. It’s massively quicker than the 1.6.

Like any front wheel drive car it will understeer under power at low speeds or if you’re hamfisted with it. Otherwise it’s balanced, adjustable and playful.

They’re fabulous little cars.

Norbury90

6,919 posts

237 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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My god that looks showroom fresh. Great stuff, good to see you back in one! That reminds me, must get on with sorting my 182! paperbag

Water Fairy

6,652 posts

186 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Back in the day I took a new boggo 172 for a test drive but I always felt the salesman didn't take me seriously. At the time we had a 2 year old Megane Coupe Sport Alize and a 3 year old Saab 900T Sensonic Coupe so I don't know why. Alas I went elsewhere but not down the Clio route...............

This one looks like a cracking example.

Wab1974uk

1,424 posts

58 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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I had the misfortune of buying a Brand new MK2 Clio 172. Probably the worst car I ever owned.

Squeaked and rattled from day one. The air-con was asthmatic and barley kept you cool on a hot day. The dealers were a joke. and I never got on with the handling. But that was probably because I came from a 106GTI. Driving position was awful too.

Due to funding I had to keep it for 18 months. 17 months too long.

Code Black

189 posts

80 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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The seats look epic!

ImFeelingSaucy

522 posts

55 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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I’ve had x3 172 Cups:

One sold to buy an Elise frown
One was written off cry
One is raced - and I still own it biggrin

Brilliant little cars.
Not always the easiest to live with but they are so much fun for the money.

Would like another road car before prices go nuts.

shirt

25,536 posts

232 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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same. recently dragged this one out the garage [cup car no.17] and really quite fancy putting all the spare cup suspension parts on a road car, problem being finding a decent base that isn't silly money.


Nick325911

23 posts

60 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Your Clio Cup looks fantastic Ben - there is one finishing in 3 days on Collecting Cars with 45k

I’ve been bring this 1 Owner Trophy back to life over the last 12 months and I’m looking forward to getting it finished before summer


Its Just Adz

19,115 posts

240 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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I really wish I'd bought one of these years ago.

Garethjarvis

23 posts

61 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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I wasn't sure where to go to replace my incredible Megane RS 275 Trophy (öhlins), decided upon an even more incredible Lotus.