RE: Kia Stinger withdrawn from sale

RE: Kia Stinger withdrawn from sale

Thursday 10th November 2022

Kia Stinger withdrawn from sale

Lovable old bruiser out; 585hp EV6 GT in as the Kia flagship


It wasn’t hard to like the Kia Stinger a great deal. It looked (still does look) fantastic, it drove with real panache (and a sense of humour), it was fast, well equipped and, given the levels of kit, decent value as well. But it was just as easy to present a very rational case against buying one, unfortunately. The twin-turbo 3.3-litre V6 was neither the most emotional nor the most efficient, making it a tough sell for both private and business customers. A list price in excess of £40k made it especially tricky for the latter from a company car tax perspective. Once upon a time there was a diesel Stinger, and a 2.0-litre turbo version, but neither appealed anywhere near as much as the V6. Perhaps the biggest thing holding back the big Kia’s success, however, was the UK car buyer’s fondness for a ‘premium’ badge. The price of a Stinger GTS wouldn’t buy you much 4 Series Gran Coupe or A5 Sportback but they’ve proved much more popular because, well, they’re the BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe and Audi A5 Sportback.

Bring all that together with various environmental pressures and it should be no surprise to learn that the Kia Stinger has been taken off sale in the UK today. Boo. Kia’s kinda sad about the demise, too: ‘The high-performance, rear-wheel drive sports saloon served as a bold statement of intent for the brand, capable of covering great distances in comfort and style. Kia's 'grand tourer' also introduced the brand to a different type of buyer, playing an important role in transforming perceptions of Kia in recent years’. Amen to that. Five years is a long time in the fast car world, and prior to the Stinger the most interesting Kia out there was probably the 200hp Cee’d GT. We’d forgotten about it as well.

Now, just half a decade later, we live in a world where the Stinger can be replaced by a 585hp EV as Kia’s flagship GT. That certainly feels like progress. While the EV6 GT is far from a direct replacement for the old four-door coupe, it undoubtedly continues the tradition of looking like nothing else on the road, offering buyers loads of equipment and, for the performance and tech on offer, not costing much money. It’ll even do big skids as the Stinger did, thanks to its rear-drive drift mode. The flagship EV6 costs £62,645 (and deliveries will begin before the year is out), which isn’t much more than a flagship ID.5 costs. Only the Kia does 0-62mph in 3.5 seconds, and can charge at 350kW, and has 546lb ft.

Kia UK’s CEO and President, Paul Philpott, said: “The EV6 GT is the ideal car to take the baton from the Stinger in the UK. Our future product plan has a major focus on electrification, and globally Kia plans to offer a line-up of 14 EVs by 2027. Combining high-performance capabilities with an incredible design and a long-range electric powertrain, the EV6 GT is an important part of this plan, and a true new flagship for the Kia brand." Everybody who has bought a Stinger up until today, the legends that they are, will have their orders fulfilled. And if you’re thinking of cruising the classifieds for one, then we can only say that great minds think alike; the cheapest on PH right now is £23,489, though it’s an advert without pics. Up the budget to £30k and you can have a Stinger that’s just a couple of years old. Finally, for the piece de resistance, what about this - an orange Kia Stinger GTS? Pretty sure that’s paint, too, and not a wrap. Wouldn’t lose it in a, well, anywhere…


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Hairymonster

Original Poster:

1,449 posts

107 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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Inevitable, but still a shame. I liked these because they weren't the default choice for big exec hatches.

cerb4.5lee

31,098 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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I've always liked these, but it was pretty obvious to me that they would struggle in the UK sales wise though. If I was in the market for a £40k plus new saloon/coupe I'd go in the direction of a German brand as the article mentioned too.

A very decent used buy though I reckon.

sidesauce

2,514 posts

220 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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Not a shame it's been axed at all, when no-one really wanted it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kia actually took a financial hit on the UK version of this car. Even in the US, they couldn't even sell more than 17,000 in its best selling year!

Five years of utterly abysmal sales? Yeah, definitely time to pull the plug on it. I'm sure the BEV replacement will do better.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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A car whose only USP was "well it's not something you'd usually buy" was pretty much doomed from the start, it's the sort of thing second hand buyers love and lament the death of because they want to pick them up for two and tuppence when they're 8 years old, but almost nobody wants to spend their own money on one new.

pb8g09

2,423 posts

71 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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I can appreciate why these never sold well - they were a lot of money for something relatively unknown in the price field it was playing in compared to its rivals.

However, I'm grateful that they existed, and I'd love to have a go in one. I would certainly be tempted if they depreciated like the German equivalent saloons do. Unfortunately for us second handers, they have kept strong. Was watching the Grand Tour episode where James May beat the two nutters on skateboards on the mountain pass in one literally a few days ago.

untakenname

4,980 posts

194 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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Had a stupid name, my Dad was considering one but the name meant he was overruled.


I've only ever seen one on the road, according to this there's less than six thousand on the road.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=kia+stinger


Triumph Man

8,739 posts

170 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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It is a shame it's gone, but to be honest I'm surprised it limped on this long. I drove one for two weeks a few years ago, and you could tell it was something that was designed and built with a bit of enthusiasm. My only criticisms were that the rear end was too floaty in "normal" mode, and the 8spd box changed back to auto far too quickly. I gather that was fixed though.

S600BSB

5,202 posts

108 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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I think the EV 6 is an ugly looking thing (and I drive an ipace as my daily!).

kurokawa

589 posts

110 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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cerb4.5lee said:
I've always liked these, but it was pretty obvious to me that they would struggle in the UK sales wise though. If I was in the market for a £40k plus new saloon/coupe I'd go in the direction of a German brand as the article mentioned too.

A very decent used buy though I reckon.
Bought mine 3.3 used for just over 22k and play it for a year. Very well equipped and very good car for the money. However, it is the size of a e class/5er, it is great as a sporty E-segment but it is no M3.
The 6000 service interval is relatively shorter than competitors and some Kia dealership even struggle to fix it if anything go wrong


Edited by kurokawa on Thursday 10th November 12:56

Funk

26,354 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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pb8g09 said:
I can appreciate why these never sold well - they were a lot of money for something relatively unknown in the price field it was playing in compared to its rivals.

However, I'm grateful that they existed, and I'd love to have a go in one. I would certainly be tempted if they depreciated like the German equivalent saloons do. Unfortunately for us second handers, they have kept strong. Was watching the Grand Tour episode where James May beat the two nutters on skateboards on the mountain pass in one literally a few days ago.
The additional £355/yr tax hit on them (certainly the 3.3) for the first 5 years (as they *just* sneaked into the £40k bracket - I believe by only a few £hundred) back in the day is also a real negative, as is the short service interval as already mentioned (every 6 months/6000 miles).

Kia would've done really well to drop the list price to sub-£40k - I think they'd have sold twice as many.

DaveyBoyWonder

2,578 posts

176 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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Only remember seeing a handful of these in the wild and only 1 GTS that I can remember being driven by an absolute weapon on the M18. Hardly a surprise they're going...

Chunkychucky

6,000 posts

171 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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untakenname said:
Had a stupid name, my Dad was considering one but the name meant he was overruled.
rofl thanks for the laughs

LucyP

1,719 posts

61 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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Funk said:
Kia would've done really well to drop the list price to sub-£40k - I think they'd have sold twice as many.
They have in effect! One Kia main dealer is asking £37,850 for a 71 plate with 179 miles. So that is basically a new car. Several other dealers are asking £45K for brand new cars. I would be pointing at the 71 plate car and saying - you can do better than £45K based on that car.

The problem is that there is a 2018 car with 35,000 on the clock for £24,500, so you really are flushing your money down the toilet if you buy one of these rather than the more obvious choices.


Funk

26,354 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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LucyP said:
Funk said:
Kia would've done really well to drop the list price to sub-£40k - I think they'd have sold twice as many.
They have in effect! One Kia main dealer is asking £37,850 for a 71 plate with 179 miles. So that is basically a new car. Several other dealers are asking £45K for brand new cars. I would be pointing at the 71 plate car and saying - you can do better than £45K based on that car.

The problem is that there is a 2018 car with 35,000 on the clock for £24,500, so you really are flushing your money down the toilet if you buy one of these rather than the more obvious choices.
The issue was that by making the list just over £40k and due to the emissions of the 3.3 it added around £1800 in VED costs over the first 5 years of ownership... The emissions also made it unappealing for co. car fleets.

I'd really like to try one but I will look for one that's 5+ years old. I'd also like the facelift version which wasn't released all that long ago from memory...?

wpa1975

9,049 posts

116 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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I think I have only seen one in the wild, very underrated car

Truckosaurus

11,521 posts

286 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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I walked past one last Sunday and was thinking that it was a handsome motorcar, for that sort of thing.

I admire the confidence of anyone who bought a new one knowing they would have to explain themselves to everyone they met as to why they bought a KIA not an Audi, BMW, etc.


Funk

26,354 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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Truckosaurus said:
I walked past one last Sunday and was thinking that it was a handsome motorcar, for that sort of thing.

I admire the confidence of anyone who bought a new one knowing they would have to explain themselves to everyone they met as to why they bought a KIA not an Audi, BMW, etc.
Interestingly I think that's less and less of an issue these days - KIA have really moved their game up and are making some fantastic cars.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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Funk said:
Interestingly I think that's less and less of an issue these days - KIA have really moved their game up and are making some fantastic cars.
They make perfectly acceptable dross now, that's true, they can hold their head high among the Fords, Peugeots, and maybe even Toyotas of this world. A proper car though? Not so much.

Truckosaurus

11,521 posts

286 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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stickleback123 said:
They make perfectly acceptable dross now, that's true, they can hold their head high among the Fords, Peugeots, and maybe even Toyotas of this world. A proper car though? Not so much.
QED. :-)

I'd have a Stinger over a mid-range 5-series or A6, but then I am peculiar in my tastes.

I suspect it would be more reliable than either as well.

The spinner of plates

17,782 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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wpa1975 said:
I think I have only seen one in the wild, very underrated car
Never seen any!