RE: Mini launches first all-electric convertible

RE: Mini launches first all-electric convertible

Wednesday 15th February 2023

Mini launches first all-electric convertible

The EV tech underneath might be old, but Mini is betting 'open-air go-kart' concept will justify huge price tag


Mini made a big fuss of electrifying its first hatchback back in 2020. It had every right to - it had spent a decade on research and development with the innovative and long-running Mini E project. The brand called the production model its most significant since BMW relaunched it two decades earlier. In contrast, its first electric convertible has had a much smaller run-up. Just last summer the firm revealed a prototype as a ‘one-off’; now, only eight months later, it has revealed the new all-electric Mini Cooper SE Convertible, a variant it will sell from April of this year. 

Somewhat inevitably, there are some caveats. The first is that production will be limited to just 999 examples, all to remain in Europe. Of those, 150 are said to have been earmarked for the UK - where, we should add, the car is not made (Mini Convertibles are assembled in the Netherlands). So there’s that. Then there’s the small matter of the price: £52,500 for a single trim in either Enigmatic Black or White Silver. For handy reference, an entry-level Porsche 718 Boxster starts at £49,700. 

Of course, that’s largely by the by. In making the new convertible a strictly limited prospect - not to mention the first of its type - BMW has virtually assured that it could charge what it likes for the result. Doubtless, its view on the matter has been bolstered not only by the reaction to the earlier prototype, but also the popularity of the car on which it’s based. The company reckons that one in five Minis sold in Europe is an all-electric variant, and suggests its sales record ‘spurred us to implement the small series of the MINI Cooper SE Convertible within only a few months.’ 

Naturally, it was spurred by other things, too. Not least the fact that an entirely new generation of all-electric Mini will be with us later this year, and bring with it (in the fullness of time) its own convertible variant. So you’d imagine it was rather a case of now or never for the current Cooper SE Convertible. And all things being equal - i.e. disregarding the price for a moment - it’s hard to bear much of a grudge against the newcomer. Sure, it’s got a silly Union Jack fabric roof and some other questionable styling details, but the electric hatch was a genuinely decent runaround, and there’s no reason to think the open-air version won’t follow suit. 

Certainly, it’s going to seem very familiar. Mini says it’s exactly the same size as a conventionally-powered Mini Convertible, right down to the very modest 160-litre load capacity offered by the boot. In the powertrain department, it gets the same 184hp electric motor as its EV sibling (and the BMW i3 S) alongside what we assume is the same T-shaped battery pack. Either way, the brand says it’ll manage 0-62mph in 8.2 seconds, and ought to be good for a range of around 125 miles. Not quite as spritely or as rangy as the hatchback, but presumably the drop-top is carrying a fair bit more structural timber for its sins. Obviously Mini promises the obligatory go-kart feeling regardless. 

Factor in a predictably high spec and lots of Piano Black surfaces, and it’s easy to imagine the right sort of urbanite buying into the Convertible like it were freshly sliced Keto bread. The eye-watering premium over an entry-level Mini Electric - which starts at £29,000 - is enough to give anyone pause for thought (ditto the idea that the model is about to be replaced with something much more advanced) - but for now the Cooper SE Convertible is offering what BMW claims is a world first: a small, silent, zero-emission car with no roof. Expect them to sell out imminently.


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AKilb

Original Poster:

46 posts

90 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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I really like my electric mini. You have to take it for what it is, but for that it is great and brings a smile. Happy also to read that the non-convertible electric mini are coming back to be built in the UK. There is no logic here and I do think that these are a bit naff but I still love shooting around in it. I am sure the convertible will bring smiles.

sidesauce

2,914 posts

232 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Agree with the poster above and the price of this convertible is irrelevant if they sell out. People on here will attempt to insult the intelligence of those buyers who can afford one but ultimately the owners will be happy with the experience and BMW will have made a healthy profit on them so to the parties who matter (ie the buyers and seller) everyone is happy.

menousername

2,244 posts

156 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Was looking at Mini Electric Level 3s on AT. Half-seriously researching what we may get if we ever have to convert to electric.

6 months ago they seemed to be 33/34/35k used. Today they seem to have lost 10k value in 6 months. Its such a big drop it now has me doubting myself but I am sure they were 33+ before.

That would suggest a lack of demand and a pricing issue. I cannot imagine this will be any different. Further, would it be a pleasant experience listening to the electric motor with the roof down?

Also - not sure if this is accurate - but as you scroll through pictures of those for sale you often see the dash and can see the range vs % battery charged. Based on that it would seem quite a few would struggle to get 100m range from a full charge. Appreciate that could be based on the driving style and circumstances.

But my point is this has / had the potential to be great. Cannot think of another electric car I would consider. We have always had Minis in the family. But I think the orice and range will make this a missed opportunity unfortunately















NitroNick

757 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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menousername said:
Also - not sure if this is accurate - but as you scroll through pictures of those for sale you often see the dash and can see the range vs % battery charged. Based on that it would seem quite a few would struggle to get 100m range from a full charge. Appreciate that could be based on the driving style and circumstances.
I have one a few months and have never seen 100miles on the range. I think during the summer it would be possible.
I have another car for longer journeys.
I test drove the mini out of curiosity and bought it on the spot, it’s a hoot. I absolutely love it.
It also feels a lot brisker to 60 than 8.2 seconds. I’m very surprised by that, it certainly doesn’t need extra power.
In sport plus mode it has perfect weighting to the steering, bizarrely it feels like an old school hot hatch.
The only thing that lets it down is the range but it’s a city car so not a big deal for most people.

Pflanzgarten

5,590 posts

39 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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125 mile range? That’s got to be what, 80 in the real world during winter?

I’m all for EVs, bought one and love it but an 80 mile range on a £50k car is laughable.

blue al

1,140 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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The cost premium over ice negates any possible fuel savings given its minimal range and likely usage.
Nice marketing exercise for the brand, and good luck if they sell them all.

I did enjoy my test drive of hardtop level 3, but the limited range would not suit me.

carlo996

6,815 posts

35 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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The future rofl

whp1983

1,259 posts

153 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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A drop top mini that weighs a st ton, costs over £50k and can do 100 miles at a push….. what a time to be alive.


Pflanzgarten

5,590 posts

39 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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CheesecakeRunner said:
Pflanzgarten said:
125 mile range? That’s got to be what, 80 in the real world during winter?

I’m all for EVs, bought one and love it but an 80 mile range on a £50k car is laughable.
So what? I spent 40 grand on my wife’s car and it barely does 80 miles in a month. Not everyone drives to the south of France and back every day.
Good job on an 80 mile range eh?

Mouse Rat

1,955 posts

106 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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I like it.
But it will be bought as a piece of Jewelry and BMW know it!

anonymous-user

68 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Absolute rip off 50k for a car with 125 mile range which is likely to be 80....

This is just going to be stored like the first apple computers.....move on people

CharverDeeksWorth

774 posts

153 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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The price is taking the piss.

Pflanzgarten

5,590 posts

39 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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CheesecakeRunner said:
It’s a petrol fwiw, but my point stands. Not everyone needs huge range, most especially the type of person a Mini is aimed at. They’re city and town cars, generally owned by affluent people who have off-road parking. The range is completely immaterial to most potential owners.
I know, that’s why I bought my wife an EV for her commute.

CoolHands

20,691 posts

209 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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That’s smegging ridiculous

Firebobby

818 posts

53 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Mini's! They're ok, but you do need one for each foot...No doubt they'll sell out very "sprightly".

Deerfoot

5,038 posts

198 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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'BMW claim a world first: a small, silent zero emission car with no roof'

Didn't Smart get there first with the fortwo EQ cabrio?

Jon_S_Rally

3,939 posts

102 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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This will no doubt trigger a lot of folk, but it's clearly just a bit of a marketing exercise. It will be interesting to see if they sell, but 150 (in the UK) isn't very many people, and I can see that it might appeal to someone who lives in London and wants a fun runabout.

I will say this - it has just about the ugliest wheels I have ever seen. They are genuinely awful.

wpa1975

11,862 posts

128 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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£52k for a car with a real range of 80 miles is ridiculous.

Tony33

1,202 posts

136 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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I would suggest anyone with £50k to splurge on a Mini convertible will have another car for longer journeys and have a space at home to charge. The range is largely irrelevant and has the benefit of never visiting a public fuel or charging station ever!

dino_jr

418 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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How heavy is it? Can those A-Pillars save you in a rollover?