RE: VW Scirocco R | PH Used Buying Guide

RE: VW Scirocco R | PH Used Buying Guide

Saturday 21st October 2023

VW Scirocco R | PH Used Buying Guide

Gone - but best not forgotten if you're in the market for a practical front-drive hot hatch


Key considerations

  • Available for less than £9,000
  • 2.0-litre four-cylinder petrol turbo, front-wheel drive
  • Won’t be disgraced on the road by higher-profile rivals
  • Good build quality inside and out
  • Surprisingly practical for a 3-door coupe
  • Mech issues are known and fixable 

There was quite a buzz in 2008 when the third-generation Volkswagen Scirocco was revealed. Why? Because the first two Mk1 Golf-based Sciroccos – the 1974 Giugiaro type 1 built by Karmann and the in-house designed and built type 2 of 1981 – had uncorked a new bottle for VW and created a very enthusiastic following. Hopes were high that the follow-up would deliver the same mix of designery glamour and light-footed agility, only with more of it. 

A lot more of it actually, because the Scirocco fans who had been expecting a type 3 car in 1988 had felt a bit let down by its non-appearance. What they got then was not a Scirocco at all but a Corrado. This Mk2 Golf-sourced coupe was another in-house design and a decent little car in its own right, especially in VR6 or supercharged G60 formats, but those high-end variants came with suitably high-end prices. Sales of the less interesting engined models were not large.

So there was a sense of ‘about time’ when the Scirocco badge did finally re-appear in mid-2008, although that was accompanied by a sense of ‘what the hell is that anyway?’ Based this time on the Golf Mk5, the new car’s body was the work of ex-Alfa and Seat designer Walter de Silva, who went to bat for Volkswagen after a spell with Audi. His work on the gen-three Scirocco did rekindle the VW coupe flame, not just among Scirocco devotees but also among a new market of company car users who considered the plumply-reared coupe to be more ‘aspirational’ than the Golf on which it was based. 

Indeed, boosted by some amazing fleet deals, the gen-three Scirocco did very well, not disappearing from the VW brochures until 2017 when someone noticed that it was hurting aspirational Golf sales. There was some hope held out in 2017 for a possible Scirocco reprise in the future, but now that we’re well into that future the likelihood of it returning seems remote to say the least. 

Luckily we have some good models to remember the last Scirocco by, like the 217hp GTS and the subject of our buying guide today, the 265hp R which came out in 2009. Powered by a tuned-up version of the Golf GTI’s EA113 turbo 2.0-litre engine with a six-speed manual gearbox as standard (six-speed DSG optional), the R was the most powerful Scirocco. Although the MacPherson strut front, multi-link rear suspension layout was unchanged from the standard Sciroccos, the R’s springs and wheels gave it a lower stance. 

Keeping the R front-wheel drive only kept the weight down to under 1,350kg but also required the addition of some sort of limited-slip diff, in this case, VW’s XDS electronic differential. The R also came with Adaptive Chassis Control which gave the driver three modes (normal, comfort and sport) to trim the responses of the suspension, steering and throttle. The R’s normal setting was about the same as the sport setting on a normal Scirocco, making sport on the R noticeably sport-y. Normal was sporty enough for most UK drivers.  

Interior temptations to help upsell you from the cooking Sciroccos to the R included VW’s Discover Navigation touchscreen, new sports seats and piano black trim. Exterior changes ran to smart 18-inch wheels with the option of 19s, bigger brakes with gloss black calipers, smoked back lights and some more in-your-face aero. A midlife facelift was unveiled at the 2014 Geneva show, but you needed pretty sharp eyesight to spot the differences. Basically, it was the usual front and back bumper change, a tailgate refresh and the addition of bi-xenon headlights and LED daytime and tail lights. The biggest change was invisible to most, that being the substitution of the EA113 engine with the EA888 unit from the Mk7 Golf R. That took power up to 280hp. 

As with the old Corrado, the top-spec of the R was reflected in its pricing which was initially pegged at £27k for the manual or £28.3k for the DSG-gearboxed car.  That was a thought-provoking amount of dough at the time, though it was still a slightly lower amount than VW was asking for the all-wheel drive Golf R. 

Things have changed since of course. As we were putting this guide together in late 2023 you could snaffle a Scirocco R for under £9,000. Go on, admit it, you’re surprised. But should you be wary too? Let’s take a gander. 

SPECIFICATION | VOLKSWAGEN SCIROCCO R (2009-17)

(Figs in brackets are for DSG auto version)

Engine: 1,984cc inline four turbo petrol 16v
Transmission: 6-speed manual (or DSG auto), front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 265@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 258@2,500-5,000rpm
0-62mph (secs): 6.0 (5.8)
Top speed (mph): 155
Weight (kg): 1,344 (1,364)
MPG (official combined): 34.9 (35.3)
CO2 (g/km): 189 (187)
Wheels (in): 8 x 18
Tyres: 235/40
On sale: 2009 - 2017
Price new: £27,000
Price now: from £9,000

Note for reference: car weight and power data is hard to pin down with absolute certainty. For consistency, we use the same source for all our guides. We hope the data we use is right more often than it’s wrong. Our advice is to treat it as relative rather than definitive.  


ENGINE & GEARBOX

In standard trim, the R’s TSI 2.0-litre four offered a sweet mix of power and accessible torque, maximum shove being available from 2,500rpm to 5,000rpm, with boost becoming obvious from 2,200rpm. The R didn’t do as well as some of its rivals over the 0-62mph run, or even the 0-60mph run, because the engine hit the rev limiter in second at 58mph, but in typical British conditions its linear power delivery made it a good match for them over higher-speed acceleration runs.  

If you were suspicious of the EA 888 engine that powered the Mk6 Golf GTI and that had acquired a reputation for fragile timing chain tensioners and/or an appetite for oil, the good news for you as far as the Scirocco R was concerned was that its turbo 2.0-litre TSI engine was the older belt-driven EA 113 engine, as used in the Mk5 Golf GTI (and actually the Mk6 Golf GTI Edition 35). We say ‘belt driven’. It was actually belt and chain, using a belt to link the camshaft to the crankshaft and a chain to link the exhaust and inlet cams. 

The Audi S3 used the same EA 113 motor but only until 2010. The Scirocco R stuck with it until 2014. It’s thought that the S3 version had a few different and better parts in it than the VW, along with some useful mods. The 113 could suffer from cam chain wear, sticking thermostats, and failure of the injectors, coils, and PCV/diverter valves. If the engine began to misfire when the dipstick was removed, your PCV was OK. If it didn’t, it wasn’t. 

Fuel pump cam followers were known to fail too, but luckily the replacements offered by the likes of Awesome GTI were not expensive at under £50. It made sense to tack this job onto the normal service routine on a 20,000-mile basis. Belts, tensioners and water pump were on an 80,000-mile/4-year replacement schedule. You had to allow up to £1,000 for that work. 

Bearings and/or seals on the Borg Warner K04 turbo were vulnerable on tuned cars. Revo in Daventry and R-Tech Performance in Nuneaton became well known for their tuning work on turbo VAG engines. A Stage 1 remap on a 2.0 TFSI would give you 290-310hp and 290-330lb ft. Stage 2 with a new exhaust, sports cat and cold air induction kit took the numbers up to 335-350hp and 320-340lb ft. Stage 2+ with a high-pressure fuel pump brought appreciable torque lifts on top of that. If you chucked a big turbo on you’d be up to well over 400hp, or nearly 500hp if you were prepared to throw enough money at it. If you didn’t have unlimited dough, aftermarket exhausts from the likes of Cobra or Scorpion were there to help you dream of big power, while not actually possessing it. 

Long-travel manual gearchanges were very much a thing on the old Corrados, so it was nice of VW to remind us of those days by providing the manual Scirocco R with a similar feel at the stick. OK, it wasn’t quite as bad as the Corrado’s, but the fact that DSG Rs do outnumber manuals on the UK used market – not quite by 2 to 1 but it’s close to that – tells you something. Even at £1,200 plus, Sachs clutch and flywheel packages were a pretty much essential choice for tuned manual Rs. They stopped clutch slip and the odd mooing noise that some standard clutches made but there was a price to pay on pedal lightness. If second gear didn’t engage on your manual without a crunch, you had to suspect joyous abuse by a previous owner. 

The DSG gearbox did away with all these worries of course but its Mechatronic brain wasn’t foolproof. Juddering was your clue to problems in that department. A new Mechatronic from VW would be around £1,000 plus fitting but firms like ECU Testing in Ripley would do you an exchange unit for a fraction of that cost. 

The DSG version of the R was 20kg heavier than the 6-speed manual car, but as we’ve now learnt to expect it was quicker through the 0-62mph run (5.8sec v 6.0sec) and marginally more economical. The official combined fuel consumption was 35mpg. High 20s were nearer the mark for enthusiastic drivers. The trans fluid and filter were supposed to be changed every 40,000 miles. Independent VW specialists will typically charge you £140-£160 for a minor service and £270-£295 for a major one. Early cars did suffer from electronic glitches. 

CHASSIS

The R’s chassis came in for a good bit of praise from the motoring press. They liked its composure and direct steering. Its electronic diff might not have felt quite as chompy out of corners as the mechanical ones found in cars like the Renaultsport Megane or the Focus RS, but in combination with its adaptive suspension it allowed the Scirocco to put up a very credible real-world fight against either of them. 

Okay, maybe it wasn’t quite as scalpel-like to drive, but it felt more agile than the previous Scirocco GT range-topper. Its blend of ride comfort and handling was more than good enough and, as we’ll see later on, Scirocco ownership brought other pleasures. 

Shock absorbers can leak, especially at the back, and rear coil springs are prone to rusting now but neither of these will be a wallet-buster to sort out. Powerflex polybushes (other brands are available) are a good way to freshen up the feel of the car. Some noise from the electronic steering in parking moves is normal. 

Uneven tyre wear patterns suggests misaligned suspension, usually after hitting a rut, pothole or other road users. A four-wheel alignment is always worth doing on any R you purchase. 

BODYWORK

The glass in the frameless doors could stick to the rubber seal in wintry weather, sometimes resulting in a tearing of the seal when the window didn’t drop on door opening as it was supposed to. A smear of decent rubber lube would fix that. 

The particular curvaceousness of the body panels and the darker colours they’re most often painted in makes it relatively easy to spot paint mismatches. Lacquer has been known to part ways with R bumpers, light units can get misty and the boot/tailgate gas struts are quite flimsy. Very early struts (pre-May ’09) also used to rust but most if not all of those should have been warranty-replaced by now. 

Visibility out of the back was poor so most UK buyers ticked the box for rear parking sensors, but strangely not everyone did. These should really be on the spec sheet of any car you’re thinking of buying, although of course aftermarket systems are available. 

INTERIOR 

As mentioned earlier, the R would acquit itself surprisingly well in a fast-roads blind against a Focus RS. There was another area in which it was more than a match for the Ford, and that area was cabin quality, both perceived and actual. Not only were both the materials and assembly good, they were complemented by excellent Recaro seats, and space and layout were both impressive for a 3-door coupe. The rear seats split and folded down to boost cargo space to a very decent size and there was acceptable legroom in the back when they were up. 

All the seats wore well, even the pronounced bolsters. The stack of supplementary instruments (oil temp, timer and turbo pressure) atop the dash plus the standard leather added to the R’s ‘sporting luxury’ ambience. Bluetooth was still relatively new in 2009 so don’t be surprised if your fancy-schmancy phone won’t lower itself to working with the R’s set-up. 

Air con compressors gave up, but there again they do that on plenty of other cars. 

PH VERDICT

There’s no doubt about it, for epic days out and ‘event’ drives something like a hot Megane or the 300hp Focus RS will be many PHers’ weapon of choice. Or at least would have been back in the day.  However, for everyday driving not only back in the day but also now in 2023 you would do well to give serious consideration to the 265hp Volkswagen Scirocco R. It might not be quite as focused as the, er, Focus but it wouldn’t be disgraced in its company and the VW’s softer, um, focus seems to have somewhat defused the dating process for the R in relation to the Ford. 

Picking up an R off the used market will certainly be a lot cheaper than scoring an RS. The most affordable 2.5 Focus RS on PH Classifieds in October 2023 was a 60,000 mile ’09 car at £23k. Lower mileage RSs are considerably dearer than that – £37k-£38k for 25,000-mile cars – and RS500s are off the scale expensive at £60k plus. 

Against that, Scirocco Rs look like excellent value at under £9,000 for good privately-owned specimens with under 90,000 miles, or around £15,000 for late-model 50,000-milers. The lowest-priced R on PH Classifieds at the time of writing was this 104k DSG car from 2010

It had a pretty much spotless MOT history taking you up to next June and a price ticket of just £7,950. This 2013 manual with 94,000 miles has a similarly good background and also looks tempting at £10.5k. If you want a facelifter what about this 2016 car with only 18,000 miles at £13,500? Cat D admittedly, but only for minor wing damage. Even the dearest R on PH Classifieds, this 280hp 2017 specimen with 21,000 miles, was under £21k. 


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Baddie

Original Poster:

654 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Like the looks, for some reason they just don’t appeal strongly. Perhaps enough people feel the same because it seems surprisingly affordable to the point of becoming tempting.

Firebobby

585 posts

41 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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They have a good rear end! Everywhere else it's a squat golf... Good value though.

soad

33,004 posts

178 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Used to see them everywhere, not that long ago! Obviously mostly diesels.

GreatScott2016

1,264 posts

90 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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I have no experience of these, but for some reason, have never warmed to them. Design wise, it’s always been challenging to my eyes so maybe it’s just the aesthetics that I struggle with.

cerb4.5lee

31,234 posts

182 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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I've always really liked these, however I did think they they seemed quite slow(on paper) in comparison to the 4wd Audi TTS with the DSG that I had at the time though. The TT did 0 to 60 in 5.2 seconds, whereas this was a fair bit behind in that regard for something with the same engine, but I guess that with it being fwd only...that hampered it though.

I know that the looks come in for some stick on here, however I've always personally liked the way they look though. It is a car that I'd happily buy one day I reckon.

ZX10R NIN

27,835 posts

127 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Having driven a fair few of these, there's no way I'd buy one of these over the better looking/handling (imo) Astra GTC VXR for the same money.
I like the looks & if you need an auto I'd understand the Scirocco getting the nod.

helix402

7,910 posts

184 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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A lot of these seem to have black painted wheels, wind deflectors, tinted front windows and a large fog of vape billowing out of the driver’s window. The diesel versions seem to often have a straight pipe and “smoke map bro innit”

Neil1323bolts

1,093 posts

108 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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ZX10R NIN said:
Having driven a fair few of these, there's no way I'd buy one of these over the better looking/handling (imo) Astra GTC VXR for the same money.
I like the looks & if you need an auto I'd understand the Scirocco getting the nod.
I would much prefer the Astra VXR also , very underrated car and as you say better looking and better drive , Badge snobs would not take a Vauxhall over a Volkswagen any day ! Actually many just wouldn’t even entertain a Vauxhall.

ZX10R NIN

27,835 posts

127 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Neil1323bolts said:
I would much prefer the Astra VXR also , very underrated car and as you say better looking and better drive , Badge snobs would not take a Vauxhall over a Volkswagen any day ! Actually many just wouldn’t even entertain a Vauxhall.
Very true Vauxhall is a dirty word BUT it does make them good value wink

rlw

3,361 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Had one of these for five years now. Apart from a flat battery this year, at six years old, it's never missed a beat. Routine servicing with VW is not too pricey as it's mainly fixed cost now, and I took advantage of their monthly scheme which pays for two services, two MOTs, extended warranty and rescue for two years at £30.00 per month for two years.

It's a pleasure to drive and plenty fast enough for most conditions - it replaced a Mk1 GT3 and a CLK55 - and is wonderfully analogue in an increasingly electronically controlled world.

Criticisms? Tyre noise. Plenty of it and it is very sensitive to tyres.

It came on ContiSport 4s (I think) and they were fantastic for feel. They were replaced by Pirellis which are a bit quieter but offer very little feel. A recent puncture (thanks York City Council) led to a change to Michelin PS5s on the front which, again, don't offer a lot of feel.

All the tyres work very well but the Contis gave the very best experience. Stiffer sidewalls maybe?

The interior shows virtually no sign of wear and the paintwork, living on the street now and sadly neglected, cleans up a treat every time.


Neil1323bolts

1,093 posts

108 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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ZX10R NIN said:
Neil1323bolts said:
I would much prefer the Astra VXR also , very underrated car and as you say better looking and better drive , Badge snobs would not take a Vauxhall over a Volkswagen any day ! Actually many just wouldn’t even entertain a Vauxhall.
Very true Vauxhall is a dirty word BUT it does make them good value wink
Ha yes indeed, that’s why I bought a vx220 turbo and not a supercharged Elise !

Jon_S_Rally

3,471 posts

90 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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I always thought these looked pretty good, though the idea of it being a "coupe" seems something of a stretch. It's just a very slightly squished hatchback.

For the money, it's probably not a bad choice but, when it occupies the same space as the Megane 250/265/275 and the Astra J VXR, it would be a tough sell for me.

E63eeeeee...

4,055 posts

51 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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The Scirocco generally is car I definitely have a soft spot for, partly for historical reasons and partly just on looks, and if I'd known the R existed at the time I wanted an auto coupe and discovered I didn't fit in the TTS I'd probably own one now instead of the 640d.

Now I'm looking at moving on from the 640d I did consider a 280 but there's never been one near enough to test drive, and I can't really justify putting more money into a car that doesn't offer anything over the 6 series so I think that window might have closed.

The only problem I have with them is the limited and mostly boring range of colours. It's crying out for a Vegas yellow or something, but the most exciting option is normally blue, even green ones are like hens' teeth.

CarlosSainz100

538 posts

122 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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I think these look best in the Kermit green colour but it's quite rare. It's also quite difficult to find one that hasn't been ran into the ground.

E63eeeeee...

4,055 posts

51 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Also, I've always wanted to ask an owner, given the already restricted rear view, do those rear seat headrests not drive you nuts?

rlw

3,361 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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E63eeeeee... said:
Also, I've always wanted to ask an owner, given the already restricted rear view, do those rear seat headrests not drive you nuts?
You can everything you need to see. And door mirrors.....

NGK210

3,085 posts

147 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Worth noting it’s easy to upgrade the head unit for an aftermarket Pioneer, et al, which’ll have Bluetooth and Apple CarPlay but will look OEM.

Rear is surprisingly spacious, also has plenty of headroom.

Sutcliffe preferred the R to a Focus RS:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqbsWzKJMo&pp=y...

RSstuff

378 posts

17 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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Always wondered why VW didn't fit the Haldex AWD like the Golf R.

E63eeeeee...

4,055 posts

51 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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RSstuff said:
Always wondered why VW didn't fit the Haldex AWD like the Golf R.
I'd guess fear of cannibalising sales from the TT and the Golf R, and relatively low volumes vs the cost of re-tooling.

fantheman80

1,488 posts

51 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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helix402 said:
A lot of these seem to have black painted wheels, wind deflectors, tinted front windows and a large fog of vape billowing out of the driver’s window. The diesel versions seem to often have a straight pipe and “smoke map bro innit”
I agree, these used to be everywhere but now, the examples around my way seem to be popular with certain factions of the vw scene, which means slammed on bags, a metallic wrap, and probably a few bags and wraps in the glove box