RE: New Ford Mustang Dark Horse on sale from £65k

RE: New Ford Mustang Dark Horse on sale from £65k

Thursday 1st February

New Ford Mustang Dark Horse on sale from £65k

Ford squeezes its track-focused Pony car through noise and emission test - but at a cost


Somehow, in this world of ultra-stringent emission laws and killjoy noise restrictions, Ford has managed to sneak its new V8 Mustang into the UK, past the same legislation that ultimately scotched the Suzuki Jimmy and, in the not too distant future, the Toyota GR86. And it’s not just the regular V8 GT we’re getting, either, as the full-fat Dark Horse will be coming our way, too. Today, Ford has announced that both models are available to order, and confirmed how much pocket money you’ll need to set aside.

First up, the Dark Horse. The most potent Mustang we’ve ever had in the UK (save for the special order Super Snake that’s for sale on PH right now) starts from £65,585. That’s for the six-speed manual, while the ten-speed automatic at £67,585. For reference, that’s about the same price as a new M2, only BMW has it so the manual is more expensive than the auto. It’s also around £10,000 more expensive than the old Mach 1, although the Dark Horse promises to be a decent step on from its spiritual predecessor - at least in the chassis department.

What that looks like for us UK buyers is 453hp and 398lb ft of torque from an updated 5.0-litre Coyote V8, which is nearly 50hp down on the US-spec car thanks to those pesky emission restrictions. Thankfully, there’s a lot more to the Dark Horse than a power hike. The track-focused Pony car benefits from a Torsen limited-slip differential, uprated brakes, active dampers and beefier anti-roll bars. American buyers can spec a Handling Package with stickier Pirelli P-Zero Trofeo RS tyres and more aggressive geometry, but we won’t be offered that here because, again, legislation won’t allow it. 

Moving on to the regular Mustang, it starts at £55,585 for the manual GT and £57,585 for the ten-speed auto. There’s a greater difference between the GT and Dark Horse in the US, but because the latter isn’t quite as venomous over here it brings the former closer in play. The GT packs 446hp and an identical torque figure to the UK-spec Dark Horse, resulting in a 0-62mph time that’s just 0.1 seconds slower than the range topper - 5.3 seconds for the GT, 5.2 seconds for the Dark Horse.

All cars come with Ford’s Performance Package as standard, which bundles Brembo brakes and limited-slip diff with 19-inch alloys. Active MagneRide dampers are an optional extra, which scans the road for bumps 1,000 times per second and adjusts the suspension settings accordingly. From the cockpit, you can select between five driver modes - Normal, Sport, Slippery, Drag and Track - alongside your own custom setting which allows you to cherry pick bits you want to leave on or off (that’s everything in Sport bar the dampers, then).

Jon Williams, Ford Blue’s European chief, said: “New Mustang is everything that our customers expect from an undisputed automotive icon – and then some. Surprising, connected technology really complements and elevates performance enhancements that will win the hearts of a whole new generation of drivers.” You won’t have long to wait to ‘win a new generation over’ with your Mustang, either. Orders are open now, with deliveries expected in the coming months. If this truly is to be the last V8 Pony car, it’s got to be worth getting your name down for one, surely?


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stuart100

Original Poster:

514 posts

59 months

Thursday 1st February
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0-60 in 5.2 seconds??

redroadster

1,769 posts

234 months

Thursday 1st February
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This car has bags of character and is reasonably priced compared to hot hatch prices ,worth it for noise alone .

SweptVolume

1,091 posts

95 months

Thursday 1st February
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I'd be interested to know from anyone who has driven one of these modern "detuned for Europe" cars, whether they feel strangled in any way.

The old US emission engines from the early 80s were huge but breathless and more recent detuned versions of engines tend to lose all interest at the top end. My EA888 is rated at 190 PS and is pretty much flatlining at 4000 rpm, where the 300 PS variants would undoubtedly be surging towards the horizon.

Would this (and other similar engines) feel like they're being artificially held back or is the tune a little more sympathetic than that?

Presuming Ed

1,405 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st February
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Awesome thing, please people, can you buy a load of these new so I can buy one in a couple of years for 40K.

Edited by Presuming Ed on Thursday 1st February 12:00

fantheman80

1,481 posts

51 months

Thursday 1st February
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stuart100 said:
0-60 in 5.2 seconds??
hmm, you'd keep that quiet down the pub. Be interested to know what the auto is seeing as the new M2 starts with a 3

mainaman

414 posts

187 months

Thursday 1st February
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fantheman80 said:
stuart100 said:
0-60 in 5.2 seconds??
hmm, you'd keep that quiet down the pub. Be interested to know what the auto is seeing as the new M2 starts with a 3
It must be error, Ford’s website states 4.4 seconds for the detuned for UK Dark Horse. That is fast enough, the buyers wont care than there are faster EV blobs and 4 cylinder AWD hatchbacks.

Robertb

1,536 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st February
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fantheman80 said:
stuart100 said:
0-60 in 5.2 seconds??
hmm, you'd keep that quiet down the pub. Be interested to know what the auto is seeing as the new M2 starts with a 3
Makes no sense at all as the last model 5 litre did 0-60 in 4.8 secs. Not that there’s any need to quibble over 0.4 of a sec.

Nish Gnackers

1,073 posts

43 months

Thursday 1st February
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More of a Pale Pony than a Dark Horse.

3yardy3

270 posts

116 months

Thursday 1st February
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when they're second hand, the dealer warranty has run out and some tuner has got the 50bhp back and some, these will be a great car.

stuart100

Original Poster:

514 posts

59 months

Thursday 1st February
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Robertb said:
fantheman80 said:
stuart100 said:
0-60 in 5.2 seconds??
hmm, you'd keep that quiet down the pub. Be interested to know what the auto is seeing as the new M2 starts with a 3
Makes no sense at all as the last model 5 litre did 0-60 in 4.8 secs. Not that there’s any need to quibble over 0.4 of a sec.
Agree. I recall about 4.8. I think they uprated the power and it dropped a little more too. It must be a mistake.

Mark-C

5,207 posts

207 months

Thursday 1st February
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3yardy3 said:
when they're second hand, the dealer warranty has run out and some tuner has got the 50bhp back and some, these will be a great car.
These will be great cars without the extra 50bhp .. nice though that would be to get back

alscar

4,306 posts

215 months

Thursday 1st February
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Last but one email received from Ford ( have had a deposit down for a month or so ) stated 453 horses , 163 mph and 0/62 in 4.4 seconds.

dunnoreally

988 posts

110 months

Thursday 1st February
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stuart100 said:
0-60 in 5.2 seconds??
Meh, similar territory to an E46 M3 or a base spec 996. Not going to be winning the traffic light grand prix against fast modern stuff, but in isolation still plenty for most people. If all you want is to go as fast as possible you can always go buy an A45 or whatever, but for me this has bags more charisma and would be still be fast enough.

Do people in pubs actually care how fast your car goes by the way? Maybe it says something about the pubs I go to, but no-one's ever really asked me!

Panamax

4,172 posts

36 months

Thursday 1st February
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It's not obvious to me what this car does that a standard V8 doesn't. My mind says if you want a Mustang buy a Mustang and if you want to be racy buy something else.

DaveyBoyWonder

2,555 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st February
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Panamax said:
It's not obvious to me what this car does that a standard V8 doesn't. My mind says if you want a Mustang buy a Mustang and if you want to be racy buy something else.
Me neither. I'd expected it to have a million horsepower and a supercharger at the very least...

Jimbo.

3,953 posts

191 months

Thursday 1st February
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I believe much of the power difference between the (standard) US and UK market cars was down to changes to the exhaust to accommodate the RHD steering rack.

Olivera

7,249 posts

241 months

Thursday 1st February
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Jimbo. said:
I believe much of the power difference between the (standard) US and UK market cars was down to changes to the exhaust to accommodate the RHD steering rack.
That was the case with the original EU cars, now they have an additional power drop due to GPF exhaust filters. -50bhp is quite frankly a joke.

Googie

1,199 posts

128 months

Thursday 1st February
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alscar said:
Last but one email received from Ford ( have had a deposit down for a month or so ) stated 453 horses , 163 mph and 0/62 in 4.4 seconds.
Ford spec sheet could be clearer but 4.4 seconds relates to the automatic against 5.2 seconds for manual which has a claimed top speed of 163mph against 155mph for the auto

pb8g09

2,410 posts

71 months

Thursday 1st February
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Is this really actually progress on the old car?

I think this with all these new, more expensive versions (Audi RS3, Ford Focus ST, BMW 2 series, etc)

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,085 posts

100 months

Thursday 1st February
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Kudos to Ford for keeping the Mustang going with both a V8 and a manual. These cars always looked a bit "big" for UK roads, especially given the space in the rear seats is not great. You have to really have a Mustang thing or be counting every penny to take one of these over an M2 or even an M240i