RE: Happy 35th birthday Mazda MX-5
RE: Happy 35th birthday Mazda MX-5
Saturday 10th February 2024

Happy 35th birthday Mazda MX-5

The answer to everything made its debut on this day in 1989 - open-top sports cars would never be the same again


The Chicago Auto Show isn’t one renowned for monumental global debuts, but on this day 35 years ago (there is some debate about the actual day, but we're nailing our colours to February 10th, 1989 - because it was a Friday) that’s exactly what it got. Media day ahead of the first paying customers saw the global reveal of the Light Weight Sports Mazda had spent the '80s developing: the MX-5. 

Showgoers back then couldn’t have known quite how significant the small red sports cars would be. Cars like the MX-5 didn’t really exist at the time; both Toyota MR2 and Honda CRX were very different prospects as mid-engined and front-drive respectively, so the closest front-engined, rear-drive rival as the '90s loomed was the Alfa Spider, which had been around for a quarter of a century. The Mazda that the development team were told there was no market for was a phenomenon: it outsold the entire Alfa production run in just a couple of years. Half a million had sold by the middle of 2000; it’s now well into seven figures and still going strong. In the US, sales were up 45 per cent in 2023 compared to 2022. 

All this for a car that nearly didn’t happen. There isn’t the time here to do the full deep dive history, but it’s impossible to conceive of the MX-5 legend without Bob Hall. Originally a car journalist, he began consulting for Mazda in the '80s; his fondness for classic British sports cars, his ability to speak Japanese and his awareness of Mazda’s willingness to take risks (see the rotary engine) is what got the Light Weight Sports project off the ground. Tom Matano was responsible for the lovely Elan-aping design in California (Mazda’s design studio in Japan penned mid-engined and front-drive concepts that were dismissed) and Shunji Tanaka was the chief engineer. He ensured the MX-5 faithfully updated the classic front-engined, rear-drive sports car recipe that Hall insisted it would depart from: accordingly, it weighed just a tonne, there were double wishbones and disc brakes at each corner, then a revvy twin cam up front, mounted as far back as possible. This is still the MX-5 formula today, barely any bigger, not an awful lot heavier, and probably more relevant than ever as every other car balloons. Not bad for a 35-year-old. 

That original NA remains the icon, of course - and for good reason. It’s a model of purity and simplicity, the old Brit school reimagined in some style. In the UK, we bought them by the boatload. Alternatives like the Lotus Elan and MG F never quite captured the buying public’s imagination in the same way. There were innumerable special editions and minor updates along the way like the 1.8-litre engine (along with some spicier variants kept for Japan), though none deviated far from the MX-5’s core appeal. Which is why they were all so fondly thought of. Just like the classics it aimed to evoke, NAs soon reached second and third owners who would use them for competition, the original MX-5 becoming a darling of the sprint, hillclimb and track day scene thanks to its combination of affordability, rear-wheel drive and vibrant aftermarket scene. 

Which means that, just like those old Lotuses and Alfas, numbers have dwindled. Authentic old-school rust didn’t help, either. What were cheap and cheerful and plentiful are now scarce and prized. As with almost every Japanese car that responded well to modifying, it’s now the standard, unmolested examples that collectors are after. This means that the best ones are now, three and a half decades later, for sale at about what they cost new (just a shame that money is now worth so much less.) This one could have just rolled off the showroom floor, from the very first batch of UK cars and still with fewer than 40,000 miles. From long-term ownership, it’s for sale at £12,990. There are cheaper NAs on PH though, tellingly, none at less than £10k - it’s that calibre of car now. There’s even a run-out Berkeley with fewer than two thousand miles for more than £20k…

All of which serves to make the NB look like even better value. It’ll never have the cachet of being the original - and some people simply must have pop-up lights - but the second MX-5 was a car fondly received in period, hugely popular thereafter and still widely available. Launched in 1998, the early cars are now bonafide 25-year-old classics, and because Mazda never meddled too deeply the appeal is clear: the look may be less iconic, but anyone keen on light, compact, rear-drive roadsters is going to find a lot to like. It still used naturally aspirated four-cylinder engines, still weighed about a tonne, and still had a great manual gearbox… sometimes that gets a bit lost in the reverie around the NA. Rust remains an issue, of course - yet the bargains are there to be had. The ideal place from which to build a Rocketeer V6, perhaps. This very late 2005 Arctic has just 44,000 miles and is £4,500; spend a couple of grand more and there are NB MX-5s around still with four-figure mileages…

It wouldn’t be fair to say Mazda dropped the ball with the NC MX-5, but it certainly didn’t meet with the same rapturous reception as its predecessors. Weight was up, the ride was jittery and the electric steering numb. The fundamentals were there, but the details weren’t quite right. For those willing to invest a bit in bringing the best from the platform, early NCs now look like great value - there are Shed money MX-5s around. Spend £4k and there are sub-60k 2.0-litres available, which feels hard to ignore given the additional performance and modernity over a 1.8 NB. If you prefer one that presents like new, there's an ultra-low-mile Icon due to go under the PH hammer next week. The Roadster Coupe, launched in 2006, enhanced usability even further.

The third-gen came good in the end, thankfully, the 2009 ‘Mk3.5’ facelift tweaking the steering and suspension, plus improving the engine sound. A ‘Mk3.75’ update came in 2012, and it’s these are now the most highly prized NCs as the best of the bunch. The ideal thing for a BBR turbo conversion, you might say. All 1.8-litre 3.75s are soft top and all 2.0s are the Roadster Coupe; the Sport Graphite and 25th Anniversary are desirable limited editions from the period. And if you can find a Jota GT, complete with 205 throttle-bodied horsepower, a centre-exit exhaust and Bilstein suspension, buy it immediately.

Next year will mark 10 years of the fourth-generation MX-5, and it shows no signs of going anywhere just yet. Which is a testament, really, to how right Mazda got it back in 2015. Lighter, smaller and more stylish than the NC that went before it, the ND was the MX-5 back at its best in both soft top and Retractable Fastback forms. Though tweaked over the years - including one very recently - it’s notable that this era still looks broadly how it did all those years ago and none the worse for it. Not since the original has an MX-5 been so smartly designed. Fiat’s 124 Spider on the same underpinnings only proved the point further.

Underneath was all-new as well, with a brace of SkyActiv engines and another brilliant manual; the 1.5 was great from the get-go, though the 2.0-litre only really came good with the 2018 facelift that raised the rev limit and boosted power from 160hp to 184hp. The MX-5 gained telescopic steering adjustment for the first time at this juncture, too, so is doubly worth seeking out.

The temptation of a used ND is understandable; a car that looks the same will cost at least £25k new in a showroom. There are early 1.5s for £9k and 2.0-litres for £10,000, which looks like a lot of modern Mazda fun for the money. Especially with a whole raft of tweaks possible to properly bring them to life. Spending something like £13k will get the very best, lowest mileage ND1s, as well as early ND2 1.5s (though they only gained a horsepower in the update, so are less essential to seek out than the 2.0). Once £15k has been breached you’re into 184hp 2.0-litres, and honestly it’s hard to think of many better places to spend the money on something fun. They really are as good as you’ve heard. Again an Anniversary car is worth seeking out, the 30th boasting Racing Orange paint, Recaro seats, Rays wheels and Brembo calipers. 

What the long-term future holds for the MX-5 isn’t quite clear, now being a tougher time than ever to soldier on with naturally aspirated sports cars. But think about what it’s survived over the past 35 years: recessions, pandemics, the return of the hot hatch, the congestion charge, ULEZ and a global hike in costs. Despite all that, the desire to embrace the joy of driving that only the MX-5 offers has endured. So many other sports cars have come and gone in that time that it’s hard to list them: Audi TT, the Nissan Zeds, the Toyota 86s and Subaru BRZ, Honda S2000, Mercedes SLK, the MGs, the MR2, the Lotus Elise, VW Scirocco and more. Yet by keeping the MX-5 light, simple, affordable and, most importantly, fun, Mazda has kept it relevant. Long may that continue.


 

 

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_ppan

Original Poster:

649 posts

99 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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MX5 NC's have hydraulic power steering and are known for good steering feel. It's the ND with electric power steering and a numb feel.

NC's were slightly heavier yes but also slightly more accommodating for some that didn't fit one of the other generations. And because of all the talk of the weight and mediocre dampers and springs of the pre facelift, it is overlooked how advanced the rest of the suspension is. There's a documentary on YouTube in which American Mazda engineers admit the pre facelift dampers and springs were tuned too much toward comfort. But replacing the dampers and springs with a nice set which doesn't need to be expensive, like the Bilstein B12, will reveal how good the underpinnings actually are.

Oh and these also rust. Though not as bad as NA's and NB's.

Edited by _ppan on Saturday 10th February 08:01


Edited by _ppan on Saturday 10th February 08:02

philrs03

363 posts

126 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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I absolutely love my NC (BBR Super 225). The standard suspension isn’t great, a set of Coilovers massively improved the low speed ride for me, but bang for buck and enjoyment factor, nothing I’ve owned or otherwise driven has come close to it. A convertible with a near 8000rpm redline on throttle bodies, howling down a small B road, is the best driving experience I’ve ever had.

thepritch

1,564 posts

195 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Have always loved the Mx5 NA, and have two in the family, one from new, the other with us 18years. We’re lucky to live in the sticks in Scotland and they were made for the roads up here.

They definitely don’t feel 35yrs old. And driving one straight after being in a current car, you wonder why the hole it left in the market hasn’t been filled by other manufacturers.

Happy birthday MX5 !

Zero Fuchs

2,749 posts

48 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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thepritch said:
Have always loved the Mx5 NA, and have two in the family, one from new, the other with us 18years. We’re lucky to live in the sticks in Scotland and they were made for the roads up here.

They definitely don’t feel 35yrs old. And driving one straight after being in a current car, you wonder why the hole it left in the market hasn’t been filled by other manufacturers.

Happy birthday MX5 !
I've driven my MR2 in Scotland. Fantastic, so know what you mean.

I've never driven an MX5 (always wanted to) but can imagine it's not that dissimilar. Hats off to Mazda for cornering the market so effectively. I wish Toyota had stayed in the game but imagine they realised they simply couldn't compete.


Earthdweller

19,421 posts

156 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Wow 35 years How to age yourself!

I remember reading about the new miata/mx5 in Car magazine and then heading down to Bolton where there was a Mazda dealer as soon as they came out and test driving a red one

Really doesn’t seem that long ago smile

Sway

35,133 posts

224 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Bloody love the MX5. Had a couple of NAs, one I wrote off the other succumbed to tin worm. Then a NB which I spent a bloody fortune on suspension and NA engine tuning that I did 50k very enjoyable miles in and wish I'd never sold (circumstances forced it).

They really did copy over the inspiration cars' penchant for rusting though.

I'm now looking at a ND2, as the car to 'keep forever', using heavily over the next decade or so, then retiring to the garage for high days and holidays before passing down to the boy.

They really do focus on the things that matter. Jinba Ittai is a philosophy that I wish more manufacturers adopted.

Phobos50

191 posts

64 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Happy 35th birthday MX5. Longevity achieved through evolution of a brilliant idea.
The Mk1 MR2 reaches its 40th birthday this year - like the Mk1 MX5, released to universal claim by press and public alike. If only Toyota had evolved the Mk1 rather than effectively redesigning to become a different car in the Mk2 - a car castigated by experienced motoring journalists in its early iterations - Car Magazine May 1990 "How Toyota spoilt the new MR2". I've owned all 3 MR2 versions but never driven an MX5.
The ND MX5 looks fantastic but every time i see one, i imagine how amazing it would look as a mid engined car.

Black S2K

1,903 posts

279 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Earthdweller said:
Wow 35 years How to age yourself!

I remember reading about the new miata/mx5 in Car magazine and then heading down to Bolton where there was a Mazda dealer as soon as they came out and test driving a red one

Really doesn’t seem that long ago smile
Tell me about it!

My first was a mariner blue on a K and the second a green 1.8i as in the opening photos.

So only ~30 years for me.

But I recently turned 61 and I wonder where those 30 years went.

Mind you, my NSX will soon turn 24...I should get it a plip for the garage door or something.

bmv6197

100 posts

133 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Can’t imagine my car history without the MX5 - have owned several (and still own my first one), have driven dozens of them (always a great rental proposition if you can find them at a specialist car-hire company), across 4 continents, and am shopping around for an NC or ND to run alongside my NA.

Happy birthday MX5! Here’s to many more!


JakeT

5,997 posts

150 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Honestly, Mazda have nailed it for 35 years now. They kept the British sports car alive when no British manufacturer could, and have remained true to the form ever since.

I spent quite a bit of time driving a friends mk1, high was a very early G-plater in Mariner blue. Very willing engine, excellent handling (once refreshed. It’s also the only car I’ve spun on the public highway), and that gear change.

I’d love an early minter, but as others have said, the tin worm does get them. NBs are particularly prone to it.

evojam

788 posts

190 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Had two Mk1's back in the early 00's and would have another in a heartbeat,one of my favorite little sports cars of all time,in todays crazy world where two tonne zillion horsepower barges seem to be the norm the little MX5 is the perfect antidote for me.

irish boy

3,913 posts

266 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Brilliant little cars. The ND makes everything that’s bigger, heavier and faster feel a bit dull unless you’re really on it.

911Spanker

3,664 posts

46 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Zero Fuchs said:
thepritch said:
Have always loved the Mx5 NA, and have two in the family, one from new, the other with us 18years. We’re lucky to live in the sticks in Scotland and they were made for the roads up here.

They definitely don’t feel 35yrs old. And driving one straight after being in a current car, you wonder why the hole it left in the market hasn’t been filled by other manufacturers.

Happy birthday MX5 !
I've driven my MR2 in Scotland. Fantastic, so know what you mean.

I've never driven an MX5 (always wanted to) but can imagine it's not that dissimilar. Hats off to Mazda for cornering the market so effectively. I wish Toyota had stayed in the game but imagine they realised they simply couldn't compete.
They are quite different to an MR2...

FamousPheasant

766 posts

146 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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irish boy said:
Brilliant little cars. The ND makes everything that’s bigger, heavier and faster feel a bit dull unless you’re really on it.
Yup. Anyone who enjoys the fun of driving should at least experience an mx5 - of any generation - at some point in their life.

Happy Birthday MX5!

ablac2000

17 posts

215 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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I really really wanted an NA MX5 back in the early 90’s but couldn’t get the money together.

So I went for a cheaper alternative…..the reliant scimitar SS1 (I nearly said behold then!)

It was awful (not the worst car I ever had that was an MGF) every time i turned the pop up lights on they did a little dance, sometimes for a couple of minutes, before they settled down. Eventually the engine blew up and I couldn’t afford to fix it.

It taught me a valuable lesson to always spend much more than I can really afford on cars which I have lived by ever since 😂

MXRod

2,857 posts

177 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Mine will be 21 in April , a 2002 sport ,had it from new , small amount of surface rust on cills but chassis members ok , cant imagine life without it, every time I go out for a drive , I relive my yoof , and my 77 years fall away

flukey5

406 posts

90 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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The reason there's none for sale under 10k on pistonheads is because they're all scummy dealers who are asking far too much, and nobody else can be bothered to list a 2k car on pistonheads that sells on FB marketplace in 48h

Unmodified non rusty examples can still be had under 5k easily and a friend even bought a slightly rusty one for £500 the other week. Modified can be a benefit if you know what you're looking for.

They're still dirt cheap don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

spikyone

1,913 posts

130 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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It's incredible to think that the ND has been around for 9 years already - the design still looks fresh. Mazda have done a brilliant job to keep the weight down too, in a car with modern comfort and safety features.

I'm embarrassed to admit I've never driven one but they appeal hugely and I have no doubt that I'll own one some day. As recently as last night I was trying to persuade the OH that she'd enjoy one as I don't want to get rid of either of my cars hehe

Craikeybaby

12,121 posts

255 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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Happy birthday MX-5!

I’ve had a couple over the years, a mk1, which I had for 6 years/100,000 miles before it eventually succumbed to the tin worm. It was my first sportscar, when I was 21, I did my first track days in it, and even took it to the Nurburgring. It was also the car I had when I met my wife.


When it died, I replaced it with a leased mk3.5, which was a lot better to drive than the mk3 I had tried a few years before. I had a great 2 years/24,000 miles in the mk3.5, including some great road trips to Scotland.



I thought that the mk3.5 had all of the fun of the mk1, but a lot more refined.


Edited by Craikeybaby on Saturday 10th February 20:29

CABC

6,299 posts

131 months

Saturday 10th February 2024
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These really benefit from some mods - chassis bracing, Meisters for starters. Maybe some more power and then it'll drive far better than any Boxster bar the flat 6 note. That may mean several thousand £ that can't be recovered, and a hairdresser image, but one of the 10 best driving machines under 100k.