Emergency Spare Wheel Use

Emergency Spare Wheel Use

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RED5RACING

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32 posts

110 months

Thursday 3rd April
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My neighbour, who owns a Golf GTD has been driving around since early January this year with an emergency spare wheel fitted to the nearside front corner.

He drives daily on this commuting around ten miles a day and at times carries his children in the car.

The purpose of these spare wheels is of course simply to enable you to get to a tyre repair centre or home to replace the damaged tyre.

I can’t imagine these skinny tyres are designed to withstand the heat generated and surely they can’t provide much grip particularly on a diesel engine with its torque.

Besides the safety aspect is there anything that can be done from a legal standpoint?

The guy is a total mouth breathing knuckle dragger and I’m not sure he’d take a single word on board if I were to discuss this with him.

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,432 posts

56 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Often thought it would be hilarious to fit 4 spacesavvers and check out the handling.

SS427 Camaro

7,216 posts

183 months

Thursday 3rd April
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RED5RACING said:
My neighbour, who owns a Golf GTD has been driving around since early January this year with an emergency spare wheel fitted to the nearside front corner.

He drives daily on this commuting around ten miles a day and at times carries his children in the car.

The purpose of these spare wheels is of course simply to enable you to get to a tyre repair centre or home to replace the damaged tyre.

I can’t imagine these skinny tyres are designed to withstand the heat generated and surely they can’t provide much grip particularly on a diesel engine with its torque.

Besides the safety aspect is there anything that can be done from a legal standpoint?

The guy is a total mouth breathing knuckle dragger and I’m not sure he’d take a single word on board if I were to discuss this with him.
Add Utter ill educated moron as well.

NortonES2

412 posts

61 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Hope he doesn't get another puncture.

Mr Tidy

26,228 posts

140 months

Thursday 3rd April
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NortonES2 said:
Hope he doesn't get another puncture.
I hope he does!

Space-savers are only designed for use at up to 50mph and maybe 200 miles at most IIRC.

sherman

14,292 posts

228 months

Thursday 3rd April
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It could be that the alloy was damaged when the tyre punctured and he has a new one on a lengthy back order.

Boringvolvodriver

10,261 posts

56 months

Thursday 3rd April
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sherman said:
It could be that the alloy was damaged when the tyre punctured and he has a new one on a lengthy back order.
If that were the case, then a sensible person would perhaps buy a cheap steel wheel with the correct sized tyre fitted.

cptsideways

13,710 posts

265 months

Thursday 3rd April
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It's he the local drug dealer, would be my first thoughts

sherman

14,292 posts

228 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Boringvolvodriver said:
sherman said:
It could be that the alloy was damaged when the tyre punctured and he has a new one on a lengthy back order.
If that were the case, then a sensible person would perhaps buy a cheap steel wheel with the correct sized tyre fitted.
What you forget is that a large proportion of the public will pay no more than is absoulotley nessesary to make their car work.
A full size spare with a tyre is £100-£150 on top of a roughly £500 alloy.

Super Sonic

9,043 posts

67 months

Thursday 3rd April
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cptsideways said:
It's he the local drug dealer, would be my first thoughts
Yeah that's what I always think when I see a car using a sss. 'Must be a drug dealer, why else would anyone have an odd orange wheel?'

SuperPav

1,149 posts

138 months

Thursday 3rd April
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RED5RACING said:
My neighbour, who owns a Golf GTD has been driving around since early January this year with an emergency spare wheel fitted to the nearside front corner.

He drives daily on this commuting around ten miles a day and at times carries his children in the car.

The purpose of these spare wheels is of course simply to enable you to get to a tyre repair centre or home to replace the damaged tyre.

I can’t imagine these skinny tyres are designed to withstand the heat generated and surely they can’t provide much grip particularly on a diesel engine with its torque.

Besides the safety aspect is there anything that can be done from a legal standpoint?

The guy is a total mouth breathing knuckle dragger and I’m not sure he’d take a single word on board if I were to discuss this with him.
Is it a proper space saver (which will have bright yellow stickers on it saying "Max 50mph Max 30 miles" or something to that effect, or just a mismatched black steel wheel but with a "full ish" tyre on it. If it's the latter, it'll be fine. If it's the former, they really aren't designed for high loads (esp on front axle!). Would probably be ok if pottering about in 30-40mph zones, but high speed would be bad.

It's not legal if anybody proved he's not using it beyond just an emergency temporary solution. In reality, unless he has an MOT coming up anytime soon, the chances of him getting stopped for it are nil, unless one of his neighbours is a copper.

Mr Tidy

26,228 posts

140 months

Thursday 3rd April
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sherman said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
sherman said:
It could be that the alloy was damaged when the tyre punctured and he has a new one on a lengthy back order.
If that were the case, then a sensible person would perhaps buy a cheap steel wheel with the correct sized tyre fitted.
What you forget is that a large proportion of the public will pay no more than is absoulotley nessesary to make their car work.
A full size spare with a tyre is £100-£150 on top of a roughly £500 alloy.
I've bought several full sets of alloy wheels with usable tyres for £300 or less!

sherman

14,292 posts

228 months

Thursday 3rd April
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Mr Tidy said:
I've bought several full sets of alloy wheels with usable tyres for £300 or less!
It is possible but if its through insurance due to a pothole claim for example it will be a new OE wheel from VW with a new midrange tyre

A set of alloys can be bought for £300 as you say but buying 1 alloy is more difficult.

Mr Tidy

26,228 posts

140 months

Thursday 3rd April
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sherman said:
Mr Tidy said:
I've bought several full sets of alloy wheels with usable tyres for £300 or less!
It is possible but if its through insurance due to a pothole claim for example it will be a new OE wheel from VW with a new midrange tyre

A set of alloys can be bought for £300 as you say but buying 1 alloy is more difficult.
But how many insurance policies have excesses much lower than £300 anyway?

TREMAiNE

4,069 posts

162 months

Friday 4th April
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LightweightLouisDanvers said:
Often thought it would be hilarious to fit 4 spacesavvers and check out the handling.
Over a decade ago, Chris Harris did a video for the "DRIVE" YouTube channel where he put 4x space savers on a C63 AMG.
It was as comical as you'd expect. I highly recommend giving it a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPh90yNX-mY

Benni

3,632 posts

224 months

Friday 4th April
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These narrow tires sure have reserves, I have seen them used on the quartermile,
as "low drag" rear tires on powerful FWD drag cars with huge slicks on the front axle.
They are of course not allowed and will not pass any scrutineering,
but some shoestring boy racers still use them on non-sanctioned airfield events.
I would not like to see the result of an explosion at 150mph but that never happened, yet.

soad

33,795 posts

189 months

Friday 4th April
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Not a huge amount of thread, and can’t see it lasting long. Really don’t like the handling either.

vikingaero

11,815 posts

182 months

Friday 4th April
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Your common garden space saver has 2.0-2.5mm of tread on them when new and they should be run at around 60psi. You can bet that the neighbours tyre will be run at 30psi.

John D.

19,057 posts

222 months

Friday 4th April
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Benni said:
These narrow tires sure have reserves, I have seen them used on the quartermile,
as "low drag" rear tires on powerful FWD drag cars with huge slicks on the front axle.
They are of course not allowed and will not pass any scrutineering,
but some shoestring boy racers still use them on non-sanctioned airfield events.
I would not like to see the result of an explosion at 150mph but that never happened, yet.
Trying to stop and turn with one on the front would worry me more than going in a straight line.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,834 posts

236 months

Friday 4th April
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an ex neighbours brother in law, who lived a decent distance down the adjoining road ( I need to add this point because I don't want people thinking I live in scuttersville, Tennessee hehe) Picked up a left rear puncture on his 2006 E class Merc before Covid, and he still has the tyre on the car today. All be it that the car appears to be fairly recently abandoned on his front lawn.

It's people with no money, st priorities and zero skills, especially if it requires either effort or money.