RE: Subaru BRZ Cosworth | PH Auction Block
RE: Subaru BRZ Cosworth | PH Auction Block
Monday 30th March

Subaru BRZ Cosworth | PH Auction Block

The Toyobaru twins weren't quite perfect - this one gets an awful lot closer


How times have changed. As recently as 2012 there was much consternation about the fact that the then-new Toyota GT86 and Subaru BRZ cost £24,995. Never mind that it was a front-engined, rear-drive sports car on a bespoke platform - there were faster hot hatches available for the money. And when said hot hatches included cars as good as the Megane 265, it was easy to understand the argument. More affordable models would follow - the PH long-term Primo was £22,495 - but the asking price would always hang over both cars. Just imagine the excitement now, in these barren times, if there was a new naturally aspirated sports car launched at anywhere near £25,000.

Or don’t, and simply remember instead the furore surrounding the GR86. Not much more expensive than the GT, better to look at and better to drive, it was a superb sports car. And proved that demand definitely still exists for such a thing. Or at least it does when supply is very limited and the price affordable.

Understandably, given the reputation and the restricted numbers, GR values remain strong. But for those who want to realise the potential of the platform without spending the best part of £30k, there is an alternative: the modified GT86 or BRZ. It’s a stunning example of the latter we have here; having methodically addressed every concern of the standard Subaru, it promises to be a very special car indeed. 

The flat-four engine was always a weak spot (you may have heard), both in terms of outright wallop and the sound. This one, with a Cosworth supercharger and Milltek exhaust, ought to address both those problems. This BRZ is now producing 280hp and 230lb ft, the latter in particular surely transformative for everyday usability. 

And that’s just the start of the upgrades. The braking system now features new discs, braided hoses, racier pads and better cooling; there are Whiteline bushes for the diff and gearbox, plus a rear anti-roll bar from the GR. The very smart Speedline Corse wheels sit on Michelin tyres, and the whole car presents as a fantastic road and track package. There was already plenty to enjoy about a standard model, despite what the naysayers would quip; this supercharged version should make for a better BRZ across the board. 

It’s also been looked after obsessively. And we don’t use that term lightly: it’s really hard to imagine a better cared for BRZ anywhere. It hasn’t been used on salted roads with the current owner (who’s had it since 2022), and has received regular Lanoguard treatments to protect the underside. Oil changes have taken place every 2,500 miles, it’s been garaged throughout, and it’s double declutched when cold to help with the notchiness that’s always been an 86/BRZ problem. It really has been absolutely doted on, and promises many more years of fun behind the wheel. So best maintain the same level of upkeep, right? 


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damienm

Original Poster:

21 posts

217 months

Wednesday 1st April
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I had a GT86 for a good few years and thoroughly enjoyed despite people constantly explaining to me all the things that were wrong with it.

This is a lovely looking BRZ except it's the wrong colour. In my brain Subarus should be blues and greys while that's clearly Toyota red.

Fr0ggy

7 posts

31 months

Wednesday 1st April
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I totally agree with the above comment in all respects. Mine was a '17 in pearlescent white and loved the experience. Only changed it for a molten orange MK7.5 Fiesta ST which I had my eye on for a while. Still got that one but I do miss the GT86 at times.

fantheman80

2,458 posts

74 months

Wednesday 1st April
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i bet that goes well!

But for me the wheels need to be more flush and it needs lowering

996_3.4

64 posts

33 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Same experience here. I had an almost stock GT86 for years and utterly enjoyed it how it was. Fantastic chassis, reasonable power, great road feel, light and easy to toss around yet capable of longer road trips, and surprisingly practical.

These engines can make a lot of power with forced induction (400+) but the key is restraint. If the map gives it too much torque too soon, the engine won t last long. Based on the figures this one should be in the relatively safe zone. Cosworth probably know what they’re doing.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,572 posts

168 months

Wednesday 1st April
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damienm said:
I had a GT86 for a good few years and thoroughly enjoyed despite people constantly explaining to me all the things that were wrong with it.

This is a lovely looking BRZ except it's the wrong colour. In my brain Subarus should be blues and greys while that's clearly Toyota red.
Am sure someone will enjoy it despite you telling them what’s wrong with it! wink

SE2

377 posts

161 months

Wednesday 1st April
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I'm sure it's brilliant, but the opportunity to give it the Cosworth spoiler (heck, even Mazdaspeed Lantis spec) is to be lamented.

Graveworm

9,156 posts

96 months

Wednesday 1st April
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I hired a GT86 from Toyota on a trip to Japan and it worked nicely especially for the roads around Mt Fuji. Yes a little bit more power would have been nice. The only thing that l would have liked would be an LSD.

cerb4.5lee

42,307 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Yes please! It's the same colour as my old S14a 200SX as well. Very nice. driving

cerb4.5lee

42,307 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Graveworm said:
I hired a GT86 from Toyota on a trip to Japan and it worked nicely especially for the roads around Mt Fuji. Yes a little bit more power would have been nice. The only thing that l would have liked would be an LSD.
I personally wouldn't want a standard one of these, because they're just not quick enough for my taste, but I thought that they came with an LSD as standard though? My old 200SX did for example.

nismo48

6,488 posts

232 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Nicely done car and probably will sell for less than the cost of tuning

Andy86GT

926 posts

90 months

Wednesday 1st April
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cerb4.5lee said:
Graveworm said:
I hired a GT86 from Toyota on a trip to Japan and it worked nicely especially for the roads around Mt Fuji. Yes a little bit more power would have been nice. The only thing that l would have liked would be an LSD.
I personally wouldn't want a standard one of these, because they're just not quick enough for my taste, but I thought that they came with an LSD as standard though? My old 200SX did for example.
They definitely have an LSD, on mine it can be felt scrubbing when making slow tight turns.
Certainly a little more power can't harm, but for me 200 hp is enough for the type of roads I use, remember the Sierra Cosworth was the same power (admittedly more torque) and it was plenty.


CG2020UK

2,909 posts

65 months

Wednesday 1st April
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GT86 gets a lot of undeserved stick but it’s still a great car.

I imagine this would be a joy to own. You certainly wouldn’t need more power.

As a third car I just prefer to have the roof down now but wouldn’t say no a stick GT86 at the right price.

s m

24,229 posts

228 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Andy86GT said:
They definitely have an LSD, on mine it can be felt scrubbing when making slow tight turns.
Certainly a little more power can't harm, but for me 200 hp is enough for the type of roads I use, remember the Sierra Cosworth was the same power (admittedly more torque) and it was plenty.
I have to say the Toyota GT86 horses seemed a bit smaller than the Sierra ones although both were the same rating

It did make me wonder if some had escaped out the bonnet like the old AE86 ad




The GR version that followed was much feistier

Graveworm

9,156 posts

96 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Andy86GT said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Graveworm said:
I hired a GT86 from Toyota on a trip to Japan and it worked nicely especially for the roads around Mt Fuji. Yes a little bit more power would have been nice. The only thing that l would have liked would be an LSD.
I personally wouldn't want a standard one of these, because they're just not quick enough for my taste, but I thought that they came with an LSD as standard though? My old 200SX did for example.
They definitely have an LSD, on mine it can be felt scrubbing when making slow tight turns.
Certainly a little more power can't harm, but for me 200 hp is enough for the type of roads I use, remember the Sierra Cosworth was the same power (admittedly more torque) and it was plenty.
The one I hired in Japan didn't not all Japanese base models did.

GTRene

21,354 posts

249 months

Wednesday 1st April
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fantheman80 said:
i bet that goes well!

But for me the wheels need to be more flush and it needs lowering
agreed to that.

BricktopST205

2,233 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st April
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damienm said:
I had a GT86 for a good few years and thoroughly enjoyed despite people constantly explaining to me all the things that were wrong with it.

This is a lovely looking BRZ except it's the wrong colour. In my brain Subarus should be blues and greys while that's clearly Toyota red.
Same until I bought a GR86 I totally ignored the GT86. Definitely a keeper unless Toyota release a new version over here in the future which looks unlikely. it is absolutely fantastic.

This car looks like a fantastic buy for whoever gets it.


Edited by BricktopST205 on Wednesday 1st April 11:56

Andy86GT

926 posts

90 months

Wednesday 1st April
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s m said:
Andy86GT said:
They definitely have an LSD, on mine it can be felt scrubbing when making slow tight turns.
Certainly a little more power can't harm, but for me 200 hp is enough for the type of roads I use, remember the Sierra Cosworth was the same power (admittedly more torque) and it was plenty.
I have to say the Toyota GT86 horses seemed a bit smaller than the Sierra ones although both were the same rating

It did make me wonder if some had escaped out the bonnet like the old AE86 ad




The GR version that followed was much feistier
I've a feeling that stock models are a bit down on the quoted 200bhp so it's a fair point, also peak power is at 7000 rpm. It also needs premium 98 RON to achieve the maximum power, otherwise it effectively runs a lower tune to avoid knock.


Edited by Andy86GT on Wednesday 1st April 19:06

DanielSan

19,867 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st April
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Great cars, I miss my BRZ a lot. Anyone thinking of buying one definitely should, but get it straight into a garage and get the sump off ASAP to check the oil pickup for sealant. A lot of cars should've had it done and sorted by now but check anyway. If you're planning to track it get the Uprated oil pick up and an oil cooler in there at the same time.

You'll have endless fun that way..

Mr Tidy

30,010 posts

152 months

Wednesday 1st April
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s m said:
I have to say the Toyota GT86 horses seemed a bit smaller than the Sierra ones although both were the same rating

It did make me wonder if some had escaped out the bonnet like the old AE86 ad
I had a test drive in one in 2014 and while it handled brilliantly I didn't like the power delivery, and I'm sure some of the horses had escaped. With a couple of options the price I was quoted was nearer to £20K than £25K and I didn't lie it that much!

Later that year I bought a BMW 325ti that had only 192bhp but felt way quicker.

But if the power delivery has been smoothed out on this one it sounds like it could be great fun. I really like the red too, although I also loved the orange GT86s.

Antipodes

70 posts

133 months

Thursday 2nd April
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Sounds like the one fundamental flaw of torque and power delivery has been addressed. Had a 2017 BRZ sports Pack, absolutely superb driver’s
Car let down by the standard engine and a DBW throttle setup with just enough delay to infuriate me. Maybe I’m being unfair, but it’s been replaced with a 27yr old Impreza STI, a cable throttle car with muscular mid range AND higher redline. Haven’t looked back. That said, I’d love a go in this
to feel the improvements. Second car Smart shopping I’d say