RE: Jaguar XF S | PH Auction Block
RE: Jaguar XF S | PH Auction Block
Wednesday 24th June

Jaguar XF S | PH Auction Block

Half-forgotten fast Jag still has plenty to recommend it - not least a great colour


When considering recent fast and four-door Jaguar heroes, plenty spring to mind. The Project 8 is one of the most outrageous saloons ever created, let alone just from Jaguar, and we’ll always have a really soft spot for the final supercharged XJR. Even the standard XE S with the V6 demonstrated that cool compact execs didn’t have to be German. 

Which is all well and good, but it means the second (and final) generation of XF S tends to be overlooked a bit. This despite the same 380hp supercharged 3.0-litre as the smaller XE (and F-Type), another fine Jaguar chassis and a design that - if not quite as bold as the XJ - was undoubtedly handsome. Probably the fact that there wasn’t a follow-up XFR - after an original for the ages - didn’t help the reception of the supercharged S. 

Whatever the case, it’s clear to see the considerable secondhand appeal in one. Gripes that matter when new become less of a concern a decade (and some considerable depreciation) later, with a rousing engine and suave appearance very much still present and correct. Very likeable, too, it should be said. Those who enjoy fast saloons (we all know there are plenty on PH) should find plenty to appreciate about the lesser-seen XF S

Look at this interior, too. Later in the XF’s life it gained a touchscreen infotainment setup; as an early example, however, this one retains the buttons. Great big glorious buttons fit for farmers fingers in a Defender, and a sight for sore eyes in 2026. The standard system will be a bit sluggish these days, but imagine a modern unit that speaks smartphone with this sort of usability. Fantastic. Even your father-in-law could grasp the HVAC.

There’s plenty more to be encouraged by here than just the buttons, too. Because the trusty, lusty old 3.0-litre was not the last word in efficiency (and there was an S-spec of 3.0-litre diesel), the majority of these will have been private sales. Low miles, lovingly cared for, special saloons rather than motorway hacks. And that’s exactly the case here: just two owners have covered less than 40,000 miles, there’s plenty of main dealer and specialist history, and the Michelins were fitted just last year. Aurora Red was an inspired colour choice. 

With a service and suspension parts in recent months, this big Jag should want for little until December’s MOT. Which, going from recent inspections, ought to pose little problem. With plenty of traditional Jaguar swagger alongside modern usability and performance, the XF S offers up a pretty compelling blend of talents. Hopefully your memory has been jogged along with ours. The bidding kicks off next week…


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Geoffcapes

Original Poster:

1,217 posts

190 months

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The thing with the XFS is that it does everything well, but nothing great.

And the infotainment. Mine had a mind of its own. Some days it would work. Others it wouldn't. No rhyme nor reason.

GeniusOfLove

5,307 posts

38 months

Wednesday
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Geoffcapes said:
The thing with the XFS is that it does everything well, but nothing great.

And the infotainment. Mine had a mind of its own. Some days it would work. Others it wouldn't. No rhyme nor reason.
I thought they were exceptionally good to drive, with a fluidity missing from it's contemporaries. Hardly anyone cares about that though, and the bland styling, mediocre to poor engines (at launch, now known to be utterly crap), and disappointing interior made sure that it was everyone's 3rd or 4th choice.

I'm a huge Jaguar fan and I'd walk right past any of these X260 XFs to buy a contemporary 5 series; what's the point in a Jaguar that isn't at least striking if not beautiful? That entire TATA strategy to become some sort of Temu BMW was as foolish as the Jaguar, By Disney range of horrors at the end of the 90s.

Vsix and Vtec

1,385 posts

44 months

Wednesday
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"We don't like old fashioned, Jaguar, Give us something modern looking" they cried.

In truth, too many were worried about peer pressure and so bought the German option to avoid the ridicule of their contemporaries, even though the XF was a perfectly good car. Now the cry is "why did you try to be BMW, and not stick to the Jaguar curves". Unfortunately, most people lack the courage to buy what they like, and Jaguar were stuck being the punchbag to make others feel better about buying the car they didn't really want but had to because everyone else has. "At least its not one of those awful JLR products, they're all so unreliable" they tell themselves.

In truth, the XF, especially in X250 guise was a great alternative to the humdrum malaise of Das Auto. Great engine choices, interiors with everything you could need, and a well sorted chassis for piloting down the road. The V6 Diesel was strong and significantly more economical than it had any right to be, and the petrol versions were well screwed together too. These supercharged engines were genuinely superb, if they'd been in a Masserati or Mercedes engine bay, we'd never hear the end of how incredible they were. Because it's "just a Jag" nobody takes notice, nobody raves about them, they just wheel out the JLR myths and snigger, comfortable in their ignorance.

Gerard Thibault

40 posts

42 months

Wednesday
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I loved mine. Comfortable, handled and rode exceptionally, engine sounds good and has plenty of performance. It will also do 40 mpg on a run if you're careful. I replaced it with a BMW because if was getting on and I was expecting a big bill. The first time i took the BMW on a decent local road I was filled with regret. The Jaguar combination of comfort and handling is real and it is better.

It was totally reliable as well, so you can ignore the JLR reputation and the haters!

Oh apart from having to have the factory windscreen refitted because it leaked.... and the time the ABS sensor failed which apparently is due to the wheel hub filling with water (solution is the jag dealer drills holes in your hub! How that was not a recall I'll never know).... and the engine auto start/stop only worked when Jupiter was in ascendance and the wind was easterly, meaning once or twice per year the engine would auto-stop and i'd be a mad panic....and the time the rear door filled to the brim with water (note the door rubber covers the drain hole!).

NGK210

4,793 posts

171 months

Wednesday
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‘Andsome. And would look even more so with some wheels nicked off a Project 8.

Orangutangerine

828 posts

206 months

Wednesday
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GeniusOfLove said:
and disappointing interior made sure that it was everyone's 3rd or 4th choice.

I'm a huge Jaguar fan and I'd walk right past any of these X260 XFs to buy a contemporary 5 series;
Just curious, what makes you prefer the interior to a 5-Series or A6 or whatever else to one of these? Build quality? Materials? Because the design of this, to my eyes, wipes the floor with contemporary rivals' interiors.

Miles Remmington

59 posts

158 months

Wednesday
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Are these that much cheaper to run than some flavour of v8? If not they seem to sit in a bit of an awkward spot between that and the diesel six and newer turbo 4 S as more sensible quick XF options.

Maxus

1,211 posts

207 months

Wednesday
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That is a handsome looking car, the colour is a refreshing change to the normal blacks/greys of this type of car.

Dad had an earlier XF and what was a cut above the german alternatives was the ride quality. Supple, cosseting yet still dynamic.

I do always default to German offerings myself but pleased there are others who choose a Jaaag.

craig9367

73 posts

168 months

Wednesday
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Never understood why this engine didnt make it into the estate, I would have one of those in a heartbeat.

Instead the only performance estate is a more extreme version which is rare and holding its value well

Walshenham

235 posts

194 months

Wednesday
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I have an x250 xfs, diesel, and it’s brilliant. I really rate it

GeniusOfLove

5,307 posts

38 months

Wednesday
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Orangutangerine said:
GeniusOfLove said:
and disappointing interior made sure that it was everyone's 3rd or 4th choice.

I'm a huge Jaguar fan and I'd walk right past any of these X260 XFs to buy a contemporary 5 series;
Just curious, what makes you prefer the interior to a 5-Series or A6 or whatever else to one of these? Build quality? Materials? Because the design of this, to my eyes, wipes the floor with contemporary rivals' interiors.
After the excellent X250 interior and the absolute masterclass of the X351 XJ I found it uninspired and the materials looked and felt low rent. The non black options largely being incredibly naff two tone seats was particularly egregious, I can only assume whoever was responsible for the X250 and X351 had left the company by then. The facelift improved it no end, but nobody cared by then.

I'd sooner have it over an A6, drab and bleak things that they are to sit in and leaden inert things that they are to drive, but I really liked both the F10 and G30 5 series.

I should clarify that I'm a massive Jaguar fanboy, I felt the X260 was disappointing against the recent previous Jaguars more than compared to the German cars. After the boldness of the 2010 X351 XJ I hoped they were going to continue down that path, rather than two near identical looking and deeply unadventurous cars with the XE and XF.


Wadeski

8,917 posts

239 months

Wednesday
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I know people like to froth over Callum, but dear god Jaguar pushed out some dreary looking stuff during that time.

Ray_Aber

843 posts

302 months

Wednesday
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Lovely colour, but the styling of this car was too safe. I much preferred the facelift - and the vastly improved dash. I tried to find a second hand Sportbrake in late 23 around the time I bought my BMW 540 Touring, but there were no facelift cars with the right colour and interior combo. They were also about £5k more expensive than the BMW which surprised me.

Sad to see it go. It needed that facelift (exterior and dash) from the outset - AND the Sportbrake at the same time.

This one's very tempting, but the black interior (and the fact that it's a pre facelift) rules it out for me.

Water Fairy

6,524 posts

181 months

Wednesday
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This needs a nice cream or tan interior to lift it from interesting to desirable.

Portofino

5,293 posts

217 months

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Nice car that.

nismo48

6,655 posts

233 months

Wednesday
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Maxus said:
That is a handsome looking car, the colour is a refreshing change to the normal blacks/greys of this type of car.

Dad had an earlier XF and what was a cut above the german alternatives was the ride quality. Supple, cosseting yet still dynamic.

I do always default to German offerings myself but pleased there are others who choose a Jaaag.
+1

Ray_Aber

843 posts

302 months

Wednesday
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Maxus said:
That is a handsome looking car, the colour is a refreshing change to the normal blacks/greys of this type of car.

Dad had an earlier XF and what was a cut above the german alternatives was the ride quality. Supple, cosseting yet still dynamic.

I do always default to German offerings myself but pleased there are others who choose a Jaaag.
Interesting about you defaulting to German cars. I was the opposite. I found them boring, and it took me over three decades to own a German car (my current vehicle). Not sure I'd have another one, but it's the car for me, not the badge. Maybe when Germany starts to make good looking cars again?



Mouse Rat

2,063 posts

118 months

Wednesday
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Orangutangerine said:
GeniusOfLove said:
and disappointing interior made sure that it was everyone's 3rd or 4th choice.

I'm a huge Jaguar fan and I'd walk right past any of these X260 XFs to buy a contemporary 5 series;
Just curious, what makes you prefer the interior to a 5-Series or A6 or whatever else to one of these? Build quality? Materials? Because the design of this, to my eyes, wipes the floor with contemporary rivals' interiors.
Yep me too. Before lockdown I was looking at a motorway muncher and the XF was superior in most areas to the 5 series A6, especially the ride and steering . Ended up with an E class because I wanted a coupe.

Slowlygettingit

912 posts

67 months

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Wadeski said:
I know people like to froth over Callum, but dear god Jaguar pushed out some dreary looking stuff during that time.
I froth over Callum - 2nd most overrated ruiner I can think of.
Make that 3rd Bangle just crept into my thoughts

NJJ

516 posts

106 months

Wednesday
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Second gen XF was just never as special as first gen. The interior in particular was a real let down after the surprise and delight of the original XF cabin and as someone else said, the then current XJ model. They never did a halo XFR model, which was an opportunity missed and all the engines seemed to be dreary 4-cylinders. It all just felt very half-hearted, like the optimism & the 'Good to be bad' attitude had died a death.