Does a new MOT automatically supercede an old one?

[4Lmike]

Let's say I have an MOT until Feb. If took my car for a new MOT tomorrow and it failed would I still be able to 'use' the old MOT until Feb or would the new one state that I can't legally drive it around at all?

[Liquid Knight]

Yes it does and it will be on the database as having no M.O.T so if you do decide to risk driving the car try to avoid ANPR systems.

You can drive the car home from the M.O.T centre but that's it. You can't even drive the car to a garage to have repairs done (unless it's pre-booked for an M.O.T at the same garage).

[tvrgit]

Liquid Knight said:

Yes it does and it will be on the database as having no M.O.T so if you do decide to risk driving the car try to avoid ANPR systems.

You can drive the car home from the M.O.T centre but that's it. You can't even drive the car to a garage to have repairs done (unless it's pre-booked for an M.O.T at the same garage).

Wrong. Completely wrong.

The old MOT is still valid till it expires. You might be in trouble if the car is unroadworthy, but you DO still have a valid MOT certificate.

[thinfourth2]

Nope the old MOT stays valid as it has a date stamped on it and before the days of computers the law had no idea you had gone for another MOT hence this is how it stands at the moment

[steebo888]

my car failed the MOT at a VW a few years ago in which i had 3 weeks before the other ran out.
The garage said still valid until due date.

Ring Vosa on Monday to confirm

Edited by steebo888 on Sunday 31st October 17:43

[tvrgit]

Ring VOSA if you like. The answer is still the same. The old MOT remains valid.

[Liquid Knight]

I happily stand corrected if that's the case but, I was told that the failure would go on the VOSA computer and the car would be flagged by the ANPR. The M.O.T is only valid the day it's issued and a car can be stopped on suspision of being unroadworthy and put through an M.O.T at any time by the authorities.

"It's ok to drive a car that's failed an M.O.T so long as it's roadworthy". If the vehicle was roadworthy it would not have failed the M.O.T would it?

[tvrgit]

Liquid Knight said:

"It's ok to drive a car that's failed an M.O.T so long as it's roadworthy". If the vehicle was roadworthy it would not have failed the M.O.T would it?

You're right, buy you could then be done for driving an unroadworthy vehicle, but not for having no MOT. It still has a valid MOT certificate till it expires. Different offence.

[paintman]

Liquid Knight said:

Yes it does and it will be on the database as having no M.O.T so if you do decide to risk driving the car try to avoid ANPR systems.

You can drive the car home from the M.O.T centre but that's it.You can't even drive the car to a garage to have repairs done (unless it's pre-booked for an M.O.T at the same garage).

Utter rubbish. If you don't know then don't guess, particularly when its so easily checked on the net.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...

[eltax91]

Liquid Knight said:

I happily stand corrected if that's the case but, I was told that the failure would go on the VOSA computer and the car would be flagged by the ANPR. The M.O.T is only valid the day it's issued and a car can be stopped on suspision of being unroadworthy and put through an M.O.T at any time by the authorities.

"It's ok to drive a car that's failed an M.O.T so long as it's roadworthy". If the vehicle was roadworthy it would not have failed the M.O.T would it?

So, in the rear of your car you have 3 brake lights, one either side and one in the window. one of your side ones fails en route to MOT you have booked 3 weeks before due date.

the car would fail its MOT on that bulb, and you honestly say its unroadworthy?

fool

[Liquid Knight]

eltax91 said:

Liquid Knight said:

I happily stand corrected if that's the case but, I was told that the failure would go on the VOSA computer and the car would be flagged by the ANPR. The M.O.T is only valid the day it's issued and a car can be stopped on suspision of being unroadworthy and put through an M.O.T at any time by the authorities.

"It's ok to drive a car that's failed an M.O.T so long as it's roadworthy". If the vehicle was roadworthy it would not have failed the M.O.T would it?

So, in the rear of your car you have 3 brake lights, one either side and one in the window. one of your side ones fails en route to MOT you have booked 3 weeks before due date.

the car would fail its MOT on that bulb, and you honestly say its unroadworthy?

fool

Fail for a single light bulb? Advisory surely.

[tvrgit]

Liquid Knight said:

Fail for a single light bulb? Advisory surely.

Don't be obtuse. Whatever it fails on, previous MOT is STILL valid, in answer to OP.

[martin mrt]

Liquid Knight said:

eltax91 said:

Liquid Knight said:

I happily stand corrected if that's the case but, I was told that the failure would go on the VOSA computer and the car would be flagged by the ANPR. The M.O.T is only valid the day it's issued and a car can be stopped on suspision of being unroadworthy and put through an M.O.T at any time by the authorities.

"It's ok to drive a car that's failed an M.O.T so long as it's roadworthy". If the vehicle was roadworthy it would not have failed the M.O.T would it?

So, in the rear of your car you have 3 brake lights, one either side and one in the window. one of your side ones fails en route to MOT you have booked 3 weeks before due date.

the car would fail its MOT on that bulb, and you honestly say its unroadworthy?

fool

Fail for a single light bulb? Advisory surely.

Nope, Fail im afraid, as is with any bulbs that are part of the MOT that are inoperative

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martin mrt said:

Liquid Knight said:

eltax91 said:

Liquid Knight said:

I happily stand corrected if that's the case but, I was told that the failure would go on the VOSA computer and the car would be flagged by the ANPR. The M.O.T is only valid the day it's issued and a car can be stopped on suspision of being unroadworthy and put through an M.O.T at any time by the authorities.

"It's ok to drive a car that's failed an M.O.T so long as it's roadworthy". If the vehicle was roadworthy it would not have failed the M.O.T would it?

So, in the rear of your car you have 3 brake lights, one either side and one in the window. one of your side ones fails en route to MOT you have booked 3 weeks before due date.

the car would fail its MOT on that bulb, and you honestly say its unroadworthy?

fool

Fail for a single light bulb? Advisory surely.

Nope, Fail im afraid, as is with any bulbs that are part of the MOT that are inoperative

You must use a really poor garage.
Mine would replace the bulb, give me an MoT and charge me an extra couple of quid for the new bulb

[BonzoG]

VT20 Additional Information said:

To preserve the anniversary of the expiry date the earliest you can present your vehicle for test is DD/MM/YYY

This is on my MOT certificates. Does it mean I can present the car between this date and the expiry date, and the old MOT will still be valid, but if I present it too early then the old MOT is superceded?

Or does it mean that I can present the car a couple of weeks early, but still have the years MOT "forward dated" to the usual expiry?

[Mave]

Liquid Knight said:

I happily stand corrected if that's the case but, I was told that the failure would go on the VOSA computer and the car would be flagged by the ANPR. The M.O.T is only valid the day it's issued and a car can be stopped on suspision of being unroadworthy and put through an M.O.T at any time by the authorities.

"It's ok to drive a car that's failed an M.O.T so long as it's roadworthy". If the vehicle was roadworthy it would not have failed the M.O.T would it?

How can an MoT only be valid on the day its issued when it has an expiry date a year later?

There's 2 separate issues here - you must be in a possession of a valid MoT, and your car must be roadworthy. There are also items which a car could fail on MoT on, which would not make it unroadworthy (number plates being one).

[Cost Captain]

An mot failure will not invalidate the old certificate. Regardless of the situation, once an mot is given, it is valid until it's expiry, provided all the correct steps were taken when the mot was issued.

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BonzoG said:

VT20 Additional Information said:

To preserve the anniversary of the expiry date the earliest you can present your vehicle for test is DD/MM/YYY

This is on my MOT certificates. Does it mean I can present the car between this date and the expiry date, and the old MOT will still be valid, but if I present it too early then the old MOT is superceded?

Or does it mean that I can present the car a couple of weeks early, but still have the years MOT "forward dated" to the usual expiry?

If you get a new MoT before that date then it's valid for 12 months from when you had it done (meaning that you've effectively "lost" some time - ie you've paid for 2 MoTs, but only have coverage for, say, 23 months).

If you get a new MoT on or after that date then it's valid for 12 months from when your previous MoT expires.

[Deva Link]

fadeaway said:

martin mrt said:

Nope, Fail im afraid, as is with any bulbs that are part of the MOT that are inoperative

You must use a really poor garage.
Mine would replace the bulb, give me an MoT and charge me an extra couple of quid for the new bulb

More and more unlikey now. What my garage would do (and did on one of our cars due to headlamp alignment) is fail the car, rectify the fault and then retest that item and issue a pass. They don't charge any extra for this or for the work.

Apparently it's absolutely mandatory that garages test the vehicle "as presented" these days.

[Noisy]

tvrgit said:

Ring VOSA if you like. The answer is still the same. The old MOT remains valid.

Are you absolutely sure about that? I was told different when I worked at a MOT testing station.