RE: 2021 Toyota GR Supra 2.0 | UK Review
RE: 2021 Toyota GR Supra 2.0 | UK Review
Saturday 16th January 2021

2021 Toyota GR Supra 2.0 | UK Review

The Supra has always centred on six cylinders - so how does it fare with four?



As always on PH, the comments on Toyota's launch of the 2.0-litre Supra were fascinating - and not a little entertaining. Perhaps the most interesting tangent of discussion, however, was the one seldom mentioned: the not insignificant matter of a sports car nameplate boasting decades of six-cylinder heritage, now offered with four cylinders. There were some dissenting voices, but not many. Certainly not to the level of outrage that the Porsche Cayman when it adopted a flat-four (albeit entirely at the expense of the six) or when the new entry point to the F-Type range subtracted two from the cylinder count.

Which, given how much of the Supra mystique is built on a straight-six, is something of a result for Toyota. Because if the old 2JZ didn't respond to tuning as well as it did, would anyone care quite so much about the Supra? It's why when the A90 launched, Toyota claimed to have delivered a sports car "faithful to Supra's heritage and Tada's mission - a coupe powered by a front-mounted 3.0-litre turbocharged six-cylinder engine driving the rear wheels." Because a Supra has a straight six like a Big Mac has beef. Four cylinders should have the Supraphiles up in arms. But seemingly not yet.

Potential furore averted, what you get with the 2.0 is essentially the GR Supra we're now familiar with - albeit riding on one-inch smaller wheels and with ever so slightly different exhausts. All the drama of the Supra shape has transferred to the four-cylinder; this is no frumpy entry-level alternative. Same goes for inside: the driver sits low and snug, enveloped by an interior and with bonnet cascading toward the horizon. The Supra works nicely as a driving environment, making you feel an integral part of the car before moving anywhere. As for the heavy influence of its build partner, it arguably matters even less now than it did in 2019; not least because the older BMW dashboard is more likeable than the newer version - which gives it an odd sort of appeal in 2021.



Elsewhere, there has surely never been four- and six-cylinder derivatives of the same car as closely related as the two GR Supras. As part of BMW's modular family of engines (the six is the B58, this 2.0-litre four is the B48 and the 1.5-litre three-cylinder is the B38) every engine uses the same 500cc-per-cylinder design, with additional ones added as the installation demands. A point the on-paper stats bear out: peak power in the 3.0 is made from 5,000-6,500pm, which is exactly the same for the 2.0. The larger engine's 369lb ft maximum is from 1,600-4,500rpm; the 295lb ft of this car is produced from 1,550-4,400rpm.

On the road that means very similar characteristics to those found in the flagship. It's an effective rather than a memorable powerplant, a long-stroke slugger preferring to trade on its mid-range than chase every last rev. Say what you will about a Porsche 718's soundtrack, but its comparable 2.0 is a good deal spritelier, a marked improvement in terms of throttle response, lack of inertia and willingness to rev. A more favourable comparison can be found in the F-Type's own modular 2.0-litre unit: the Supra also uses short ratios to heighten the sense of acceleration, and offers a similarly inoffensive growl from the exhaust. Induction noise is notable by its absence.

Whether the cheaper model is fast enough is a tricky question. That's because, on the road, its performance feels spot on, quick enough to excite and entertain without being so accelerative it's a threat. Trouble is the spec sheet argument is harder to make, because this is a 258hp, 1,395kg car that costs £46,000. Hand on heart, a Yaris GR feels a little faster. Which means a similarly priced Alpine or Porsche would, too. And the M135i with which the Supra shares a powertrain. Cars should be bought on the experience, sports cars in particular; it's hard to imagine many 2.0-litre customers being disappointed by the speed on offer here - but spec sheet bragging rights are certainly not its forte.



What buyers should be able to shout about, though, is a reinvigorated driving experience - and from this test, that's absolutely what they'll be doing. The 3.0-litre Supra wasn't bad to drive, by any means, it's just that this one feels like an improvement across the board. The reasons are not hard to fathom: less mass means less work for everything to do, this Supra riding with less tension (smaller wheels probably help) and steering more urgently, its tangible reduction in inertia benefitting every situation. The car is fitted with identical brakes to its six-cylinder sibling, too; with 100kg less to haul down (and they are Toyota's official UK figures, with 1,395kg playing 1,495kg without driver), it stops better than before, too.

Point is, the reduction in weight makes for a much more rewarding Supra to drive, the additional poise and agility imbuing more of a 'sports car' character to the experience. It feels genuinely light (it's actually only 30kg more than a 718 Cayman PDK), flowing with the surface and darting towards bends in a pleasing fashion; the standard (very good) active differential lends precision and composure that the comparable F-Type doesn't offer, too, because a locking diff isn't an option.

Moreover, there are some really nice touches that improve the experience. Sport mode doesn't spoil the Supra, with the damping tightened up nicely, the mid-way setting for the traction control strikes a great balance between grip and slip and the manual mode is just that - it doesn't kick down or change up no matter what. Which is nice.



Which makes the bad bits all the more irksome. Though configurable, the standard Sport mode, largely welcome for damping, steering and gearbox, turns the throttle pedal into a switch; all the performance apparently right at the top of the pedal. Which is never ideal, but especially not when the brake travel is a tad long as well. Given the gearbox is broadly very well done, with snappier downshifts than the 3.0-litre, it's a shame not to feel a bit more connected to the experience - both gearlever and paddles could offer more resistance. Same for the steering: you learn to trust the immediacy off centre and the purchase of the chunky 255-section front Michelin Super Sports, but it doesn't come from the slightly glassy steering response. Sat so far back in the chassis, confidence is key, and there's not a shortfall of it here.

Still, it's a really decent chassis - capable and entertaining in the best front-engined, rear-drive tradition, and is the best Supra to drive Toyota has yet made. Whether that sweeter experience is sufficient to successfully market the 2.0-litre model remains to be seen. Because we all know that stats sell cars a lot more effectively than the subjective stuff; £7k more buys the 3.0-litre and 340hp, which is a significant gain. And those focused on outright handling in four-cylinder sports cars are still better served by the 718 Cayman and Alpine A110. Although the Supra certainly feels a more attractive proposition than a four-cylinder F-Type, for what that's worth.

Will that be enough? Let's see. Because the Supra's imperfections - the obvious charm deficit of six cylinders against four, a drive that can't quite live up to the segment's best - shouldn't unfairly detract from its overall appeal. The new entry-level model is a really well sorted sports car, as well as a handsome, well-built, refined two-door coupe. In isolation it's impressive and really rather likeable, scoring higher on both counts than you would have initially thought possible. Whether it will still seem that way when measured against a direct rival, we aim to find out in short order...


SPECIFICATION | TOYOTA GR SUPRA 2.0

Engine: 1,998cc, four-cyl turbo
Gearbox: Eight-speed auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 258@5,000-6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@1,600-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 5.2 secs
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,395kg (without driver)
MPG: 38.7
CO2: 167g/km
Price: £45,995

Image credit | Harry Rudd







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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

44,603 posts

209 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Any chance of a manual gearbox please? smile



blue al

1,437 posts

188 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Shame the engine is pegged back to preserve a gap to 6 cylinder performance
Would be over 300 bhp in the Gp3 factory version of this engine with stronger internals, or close to in aftermarket tune for jcw f56

At the price suggested it needs the extra help, I’d be very interested to see if the engines internal spec follows the old supra format in being undercooked and suitable for an extra 100hp with sympathetic modifications, or really pushing your luck after 300hp with the cooking B48. Both options are available from BMW, so it would be criminal if it were the cheaper one under the hood.

Edit...from wiki...Bad news

190 kW version
2019–present G20 330i
2019-present G29 Z4 Sdrive30i
2019–present A90 Toyota Supra (Japanese A90 models since 2019/international models since 2020)
2020-present Morgan Plus Four
2020–present G22 430i

225 kW version
This engine features a reinforced crankshaft with larger main bearings and new pistons with a lower 9.5:1 compression ratio. This allows the engine to take more boost pressure from a larger turbocharger, which blows compressed air through a reworked intake tract.[12] Revealed in May 2019, this engine is shared with the new MINI Countryman JCW, Clubman JCW[13] and JCW GP models.[14] The engine output increased by 55 kW (74 hp) to 306 PS (301 HP) and torque increased to 450 N⋅m (332 ft⋅lb).

2019–present F39 X2 M35i
2019–present F40 M135i xDrive
2019–present F54 Clubman JCW
2019–present F60 Countryman JCW
2019–present F44 M235i xDrive Gran Coupé
2020–present F56 MINI John Cooper Works GP



Edited by blue al on Saturday 16th January 05:35

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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cerb4.5lee said:
Any chance of a manual gearbox please? smile
This is the only thing that would make this car interesting again.

Kipsrs

709 posts

78 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Interesting read Blue Al. . It is said that the Mk4 Supra engine internals were built for 600hp though that was deemed way too much for the average man on the street so it was dialled back to ‘375’ for the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ at the time which translated to around 400ish. That is what makes it such a good engine for tuners... Let’s hope Toyota have walked a similar path and the internals of the four pot are the more robust latter of the two engines you have sighted, which, should make for interesting tuning mods, for those who want a four pot with more power, though I am still a purist and think any Supra should have a 6 cylinders. .

The Rotrex Kid

34,827 posts

189 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Kipsrs said:
Interesting read Blue Al. . It is said that the Mk4 Supra engine internals were built for 600hp though that was deemed way too much for the average man on the street so it was dialled back to ‘375’ for the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ at the time which translated to around 400ish. That is what makes it such a good engine for tuners... Let’s hope Toyota have walked a similar path and the internals of the four pot are the more robust latter of the two engines you have sighted, which, should make for interesting tuning mods, for those who want a four pot with more power, though I am still a purist and think any Supra should have a 6 cylinders. .
JDM Mk4’s had 280PS, the gentlemen’s agreement (as called) agreed a cap at that. It’s generally agreed most of the cars did have more power but UK/US cars had different turbos to officially make more power.

Stoned

119 posts

158 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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So basically it's the GT86 everyone would have liked from the start, only now not affordable to most...

Nick928

365 posts

184 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Elatino1 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Any chance of a manual gearbox please? smile
This is the only thing that would make this car interesting again.
Never be a true drivers car with an auto gearbox.
Comparison with a GR Yaris is totally pointless.
One is focused on driver enjoyment the other is a slushy waft wagon.

dgswk

959 posts

123 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Stoned said:
So basically it's the GT86 everyone would have liked from the start, only now not affordable to most...
Agree, and imho the GT86 is a far far better looking car. This is one coupe of recent times that really hasn’t grown on me, it’s a bit of a mess and the BMW internals still do nothing to help. I’d just buy a Z4. Actually an M2. Sorry Toyota. Got very very excited, briefly, about the new Nissan Z, but that’s now not coming to the UK. Pity, great looking thing and an obvious competitor.

Sure the Supra is a great drive, and probably better for slightly smaller wheels and a bit less weight up front.

I’m probably missing the point, and I’m glad it exists as it drives some real competition at the price point.

Actually, I think stretch a little and I’d take an Alpine.

Mr Tidy

31,460 posts

156 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Stoned said:
So basically it's the GT86 everyone would have liked from the start, only now not affordable to most...
Nicely put, except sadly there is no manual gearbox option.

Whatever it's faults the GT86 did at least offer that!

Hub

7,131 posts

227 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Bit pricey for the 'entry level' version, no?

I know they are ancient or maybe now no longer on sale but the 370z Nismo was about £10k cheaper I think. High 30s or around £40k would be more similar to things like the Ecoboost Mustang, Z4 etc?

I do like the look of it over other options though!

Edited by Hub on Saturday 16th January 08:17

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Mr Tidy said:
Stoned said:
So basically it's the GT86 everyone would have liked from the start, only now not affordable to most...
Nicely put, except sadly there is no manual gearbox option.

Whatever it's faults the GT86 did at least offer that!
It really is silly. No decent power for a manual GT86 and no decent gearbox for the Supra. It seems such a ridiculously backwards way to offer these cars as they are rather than give people what they want from a sportscar which is a decent bit of grunt and a manual box.

Bright Halo

3,980 posts

264 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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We have seen this call for a manual in so many car threads lately. If Alpine, Toyota, Porsche etc actually produced a lesser spec but manual sports coupe would it sell or are we just a vocal minority that doesn’t actually represent that many car buyers?
I’m sure all the manufacturers must have people who have people that do the research on such things.

Narcisus

9,075 posts

309 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Elatino1 said:
Mr Tidy said:
Stoned said:
So basically it's the GT86 everyone would have liked from the start, only now not affordable to most...
Nicely put, except sadly there is no manual gearbox option.

Whatever it's faults the GT86 did at least offer that!
It really is silly. No decent power for a manual GT86 and no decent gearbox for the Supra. It seems such a ridiculously backwards way to offer these cars as they are rather than give people what they want from a sportscar which is a decent bit of grunt and a manual box.
Is it what most want from a sports car ? If that’s the case why are manual gearbox’s becoming a thing of the past with Ferrari and Lamborghini ? I don’t see people moaning about that ?

Simon Owen

894 posts

163 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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It is interesting that Toyota will run the new 86 and a 2.0 Supra in parallel with each other given the similarities. I guess the manual, NA, rear seats and cheaper offering in the 86 differentiates enough for them.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Narcisus said:
Elatino1 said:
Mr Tidy said:
Stoned said:
So basically it's the GT86 everyone would have liked from the start, only now not affordable to most...
Nicely put, except sadly there is no manual gearbox option.

Whatever it's faults the GT86 did at least offer that!
It really is silly. No decent power for a manual GT86 and no decent gearbox for the Supra. It seems such a ridiculously backwards way to offer these cars as they are rather than give people what they want from a sportscar which is a decent bit of grunt and a manual box.
Is it what most want from a sports car ? If that’s the case why are manual gearbox’s becoming a thing of the past with Ferrari and Lamborghini ? I don’t see people moaning about that ?
People that buy supercars are not buying them for fun and involvement. They are buying them for looks, prestige, speed etc and manufacturers are making the cars as fast as possible which these days necessitates an auto box. They wouldn't bother to sell a manual that was far slower than the competition, it just wouldn't make sense. They are very different markets.

fantheman80

2,608 posts

78 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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“Four cylinders should have the Supraphiles up in arms. But seemingly not yet.”

I think the “Supraphiles” don’t accept the 6 cylinder as a true supra, so you could stick a gwizz motor in one, still dead to them

Be a rarer sight than the 6, and they’re rare! I like them though, great in the flesh, needs a lighter colour to show off the lines and some nice rays

fph

67 posts

146 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Considering that the Supra started out as the Celica Supra which was a six cylinder version of a four cylinder car, it seems entirely appropriate to me that there is now a four cylinder version of the Supra.

Narcisus

9,075 posts

309 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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fph said:
Considering that the Supra started out as the Celica Supra which was a six cylinder version of a four cylinder car, it seems entirely appropriate to me that there is now a four cylinder version of the Supra.
This was my first car :-)

fph

67 posts

146 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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Narcisus said:
fph said:
Considering that the Supra started out as the Celica Supra which was a six cylinder version of a four cylinder car, it seems entirely appropriate to me that there is now a four cylinder version of the Supra.
This was my first car :-)
What a great first car. Always loved the angular look of this generation.

CABC

6,298 posts

130 months

Saturday 16th January 2021
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sports cars are nearly always better as 4 pots because of weight and location of that weight. especially as true sports cars are smallish cars and so packaging has greater impact. (i'm defining sports cars in the simple 'fun' sense, good handling etc. not 'performance' or 'super' cars).

Anyway, only a few more years of such arguments.