RE: Prodrive previews 'P25' Impreza project
RE: Prodrive previews 'P25' Impreza project
Thursday 19th May 2022

Prodrive previews 'P25' Impreza project

We've seen plenty of restomod rally stars already - now it's time for Subaru's icon


For all its success elsewhere, Prodrive is inextricably linked with Subaru - unforgettable WRC wins and some fantastic Impreza road cars virtually guarantee the fact. But nobody needs reminding that it's quite a few years ago now. Still, it remains a very special relationship, one Prodrive is apparently keen to rekindle; so here’s your first look at ‘P25’, a new project that will resurrect a rallying icon.  

There’s very little to go on for now, with Prodrive merely showing a silhouette on its social media pages and promising more info next week. That said a two-door Impreza has one of the most iconic shapes around, so the basis of the project doesn’t take much deducing. Not least given we’re now 25 years - hence ‘P25’ - from 1997, the year that the Prodrive-built Imprezas claimed their third consecutive WRC Manufacturers’ title. So it might be a reimagining of the Impreza Terzo, but we’re expecting something a little more exotic than that. 

‘An icon redefined’ is how Prodrive describes it for now, which we’ll interpret for now as a legendary motorsport outfit building the best 90s Subaru Impreza it possibly can. Which, let's face it, will probably be quite awesome. We’re picturing something like the Redux E30 M3 - obsessively refining an iconic performance car - or perhaps even the RML Short Wheelbase, where you get motorsport attention to detail on a road car project. Neither sounds a bad way off making a restomod Subaru.  

This is all conjecture and giddy excitement now, of course. P25 could be a one-off commission, it could be electric, it could just be a nicely restored old Turbo. But we’re hoping and praying for something more akin to a Kimera EVO37, a rally legend born again with the best the 21st century can offer. We’ll know for certain what the P25 is next Wednesday. 


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GreatScott2016

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2,584 posts

119 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Intriguing to say the least but I for one won’t be holding my breath. As for the silhouette, that’s truly iconic and instantly recognisable, something you can’t say of most modern cars that simply seem to blur into blandness these days ...

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Silhouette looks to be a two-door coupe, so it won't be a Terzo as that's a saloon.

Wadeski

9,055 posts

244 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Silhouette looks like they are aiming for a reborn 22b...

I wonder what the platform underneath is, I can't imaging they are cutting up 22bs, they are too valuable these days!

regular STi underbody with a carbon 22b-like body on top?

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Wadeski said:
Silhouette looks like they are aiming for a reborn 22b...

I wonder what the platform underneath is, I can't imaging they are cutting up 22bs, they are too valuable these days!

regular STi underbody with a carbon 22b-like body on top?
Would make sense as it is probably the most desirable GC8.

Presumably a DIT engine and all the running gear from the last of the sti's and expensive carbon bodywork, that they almost certainly still have the molds for smile


daver1184

139 posts

202 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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At a guess...

Refurbished Type R shell with 22b steel arches
2.5 litre motor + 6 speed running gear from the last of line STI's
Less than 20 off
Blue
Expensive

Roll on next Weds....

rigga

8,808 posts

232 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Loved the time of the impreza (liked the legacy before it) and owned a classic shaped wagon wrx for many years.
Prodrive releasing something linked to that era is great, and I'm wondering what it will look like.

What ever happened to the P2 they showed and proposed to market though, that never came to anything.

Wab1974uk

1,426 posts

58 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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This will be another car aimed at the rich. I'm guessing £100,000+

F8Spiderman

949 posts

180 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Wab1974uk said:
This will be another car aimed at the rich. I'm guessing 100,000+
2 or 3 multiples of that I’d imagine.

J4CKO

47,051 posts

231 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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GreatScott2016 said:
Intriguing to say the least but I for one won’t be holding my breath. As for the silhouette, that’s truly iconic and instantly recognisable, something you can’t say of most modern cars that simply seem to blur into blandness these days ...
Much as I like them come on, the normal Impreza was a fairly nondescript blobby four door Jap taxi looking thing, blander than a bland thing. These were wide arched rally specials with less doors. Anything is iconic if it wins rallies, a Matro 6r4 looked like a Warthog on wheels but is iconic, and anything you grey up with is recognisable.

A GR Yaris is still pretty distinctive, Lotus Evora pretty good looking, I like the new Supra though not everyone does. Loads of cross overs and stuff blur into each other but then so did loads of cars back in the nineties, the Nissan Sunny, Poron whatsit, er, loads of forgettable stuff.

Dont get why everyone is so comfortable in the past all the time, can like both old and modern.




KJH

164 posts

235 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Prodive want some of that BBL x Mines and "Restoration defined by NISMO" type money.

KarlMac

4,627 posts

172 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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This has reminded me that it’s about time PH organised another Sunday Service at Prodrive. Last one was awesome getting to mooch round all the old metal.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Wadeski said:
Silhouette looks like they are aiming for a reborn 22b...

I wonder what the platform underneath is, I can't imaging they are cutting up 22bs, they are too valuable these days!

regular STi underbody with a carbon 22b-like body on top?
Would make sense as it is probably the most desirable GC8.

Presumably a DIT engine and all the running gear from the last of the sti's and expensive carbon bodywork, that they almost certainly still have the molds for smile


Dal3D

1,272 posts

182 months

Robmarriott

2,970 posts

189 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Whatever is under the cover there looks like a narrow body car to me. Like a P1…

Big ol’ wing though, that’s definitely not standard GC8 stuff, more like S9 onwards WRC.

Jon_S_Rally

4,509 posts

119 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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I would expect a two-door body, with styling to echo the '97-'00 WRC car, as that's the prettiest one, then a chunk of mechanical tweaks to make it drive a bit better.

Wab1974uk said:
This will be another car aimed at the rich. I'm guessing 100,000+
Of course it will. Buying up old Imprezas, spending hundreds or thousands of hours rebuilding/improving them, and then selling them for 50k wouldn't be a great business model, would it?

RumbleOfThunder

3,728 posts

234 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Yeah so how are they going to get the 3dr donors? Hope they wont be using P1's. Or maybe they have the tooling and authorisation to build their own shells.

Robmarriott

2,970 posts

189 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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RumbleOfThunder said:
Yeah so how are they going to get the 3dr donors? Hope they wont be using P1's. Or maybe they have the tooling and authorisation to build their own shells.

Build them from panels, register them as ‘Prodrive P25’, just like the MST Escorts?

Either that or buy shonky old 2 doors from Japan and spend loads of time repairing rot and making sure they’re not bent?

RB Will

10,899 posts

271 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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rigga said:

What ever happened to the P2 they showed and proposed to market though, that never came to anything.
It is sat in their workshop gathering dust basically. Got to have a sit in and poke around it on a tour a couple of years ago. Apparently it is broken and they can't be arsed to fix it or spend money to tidy it up as all the technical drawings etc were shredded years back. (source Prodrive tour guide). Can't see how it would be that complicated myself.
I asked if I could get my P1 that I had taken in the workshop for a pic of them together but they wouldn't even let me push it in, apparently nothing is allowed in with fuel in the tank.


Interested to see what this 25 is though. Really hope it is not electric.

DanielSan

20,109 posts

198 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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daver1184 said:
At a guess...

Refurbished Type R shell with 22b steel arches
2.5 litre motor + 6 speed running gear from the last of line STI's
Less than 20 off
Blue
Expensive

Roll on next Weds....
The 2.5 would be a terrible way to go with it. It's a crap engine, 2.0 bored to 2.2 would make it more unique and take power without shifting itself

RumbleOfThunder

3,728 posts

234 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Has to be the 2.0/2.2 for true warbleness.