RE: Immaculate, incomparable Porsche 959 for sale
RE: Immaculate, incomparable Porsche 959 for sale
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Immaculate, incomparable Porsche 959 for sale

Has there been a more influential supercar in the modern age?


Who else is suffering from supercar fatigue? January has already seen the reveal of Bugatti’s Veyron homage, Apollo’s Evo and Italdesign’s tribute to the Honda NSX, and while they’re all spectacular in their own right, the problem is that new one-offs, homages and boutique V12s seemingly arrive every week, with cavernously-pocketed collectors looking for a car that’s unique to them.

And that’s where the second problem arises: today’s supercars don’t seem to convey any tangible purpose other than exclusivity. Not that you’d turn down the opportunity to commission your own creation if you had the means, but they’ll only ever be truly special to you. I'd argue that it's the supercars built to push technical boundaries or grant access to a racing series that really set the car world alight. The LaFerrari, Mclaren P1 and Porsche 918 were special for being the first cars to merge piston and electric power for the sole purpose of performance, while the aforementioned Veyron shattered top speed records all while being comfortable and refined. Then you have the Porsche 959, like the one we have here, which was built both to go rallying and pioneer technologies not yet seen on a road car.

Like a good chunk of supercars from the '80s, the 959 started life as a homologation special for Group B rallying. The idea behind the 959 was to see how far the 911 platform could be taken, with the highly competitive landscape of the WRC seen as the perfect place to accelerate development. When the ‘Gruppe B’ concept appeared in 1983 it resembled more of a streamlined silhouette of a 911 rather than a Group B rally monster, though of course we’d never get to see it go up against Audi Sport Quattros, Lancia Delta S4s and MG 6R4s in the WRC as the ruleset was scrapped after the 1986 season - just as the 959 was about to hit showrooms. 

It would, however, see action in the Dakar, which Porsche used to develop the 959’s sophisticated all-wheel drive system. The new configuration could modulate power between the front and rear axles, which was very trick for the '80s, with up to 80 per cent being sent to the back under certain conditions. Then there was the suspension, an active setup that could automatically adjust the ride height while on the fly, a technology Formula 1 teams were struggling to wrap their heads around at the time.

However, what really put the 959 on the map was its world-beating pace. Using a variant of the 2.8-litre, twin-turbo flat-six featured in the dominant 956 and 962 Le Mans cars, the 959 put out 450hp and was capable of speeds of almost 200mph, making it the world’s fastest production car in 1986. That’s not all, because the sequential turbochargers, another first for the 959, helped drastically reduce lag, which, when coupled with the trick all-wheel drive system, resulted in a 0-62mph time of 3.7 seconds. On top of that, it was the first production car with tyre pressure monitoring, the first fitted with magnesium wheels and the first with run-flat tyres. Space age technology at a time when you could buy a car with a manual choke.

Yes, the Ferrari F40 and Jaguar XJ220 arguably made for better pinups, but the 959 truly moved the game on. Obviously, that makes them incredibly popular with collectors, driving prices to stratospheric heights. You’ll need £1,800,000 for this one, but in return you get a supercar legend with a mere 19,300 miles on the clock and the warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from knowing that restoration work reportedly totalling £60,000 has already been completed. Moreover, the seller says they’ll put it through a service once the sale goes through, so it ought to be in fine fettle for the year ahead. And if you buy it, why not join us at Le Mans? With no 963s this year, Porsche will need a car capable of 200mph...


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wistec1

Original Poster:

719 posts

62 months

Yesterday (06:42)
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I'd rather have the BMW M1 featured below.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,495 posts

164 months

Yesterday (06:48)
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I’d rather have a standard 930/993/963/997.2/991

Spidermoor

77 posts

28 months

Yesterday (06:56)
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Great car, but sadly not a good looking one.

biggbn

29,587 posts

241 months

Yesterday (07:01)
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Technological tour de force wrapped in an 80's shell suit. Wonderfully of its time, and not unfortunately in a good way...glad it exists though, what a power play. The 80's Veryon?

StuntmanMike

13,081 posts

172 months

Yesterday (07:02)
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I remember these, and the GTO.

Unlike the GTO this is pure eighties and not timeless.

A bit like another high school crush of mine the Tickford Capri, unique period styling that hasn’t aged well.

It was a technical marvel at the time.

What’s the filler behind the door? Oil dry sump?

StuntmanMike

13,081 posts

172 months

Yesterday (07:03)
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
I d rather have a standard 930/993/963/997.2/991
I think I would as well.

Gary C

14,564 posts

200 months

Yesterday (07:07)
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You lot have no Soul !!!

Its beautiful biggrin

and I would have it without a moments hesitation.

well, until you waved the keys to an F40 at me...

Its an epic car.

GTEYE

2,352 posts

231 months

Yesterday (07:14)
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StuntmanMike said:
Billy_Whizzzz said:
I d rather have a standard 930/993/963/997.2/991
I think I would as well.
I think you may have missed the point.

Pereldh

737 posts

133 months

Yesterday (07:59)
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For the zillionth time mate...
959 was NOT for Group B Rally class, it was for Group B Racing class, just like Ferrari 288GTO.
The shape is a hint... smile It wouldnt stand a chance in the forest, have you ever BEEN to a rally??? biggrin

That a rebuilt version won the Dakar Rally - as well as Le Mans - doesn't prove anything.
There was a Ferrari 308 rally car but it doesn't mean it was built for WRC.

Secondly, none of the group B rallycars had "hit any showrooms" either in 1986, except the Sport Quattro.


Edited by Pereldh on Monday 26th January 08:09

v8notbrave

167 posts

34 months

Yesterday (08:10)
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Lovely, weren't these sub 200k at one point this century? Big money now, one for the crypto investors

21TonyK

12,819 posts

230 months

Yesterday (08:40)
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v8notbrave said:
Lovely, weren't these sub 200k at one point this century? Big money now, one for the crypto investors
Yeah, many, many years ago a local car dealer had one. I had no idea what it was other than "a porsche". He was quite happy for me to sit in it and play whilst convincing me to buy a Vauxhall Carlton.

Should have blagged a drive as part of the deal!

Maccmike8

1,497 posts

75 months

Yesterday (08:41)
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In today's landscape it is still incredibly fast. 3.7sec and almost 200mph. It's still up there with the fastest cars.
Except this is 40 years old! Wild.
But no its not the best looking.

GreatScott2016

2,180 posts

109 months

Yesterday (08:50)
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It was certainly a poster car for me back in the day, albeit not a pretty one smile. One for the multi millionaire collector or lottery winner but if I was either of these, I’d still not buy it.

Turbobanana

7,737 posts

222 months

Yesterday (08:55)
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This and a Gordon Keeble are my lottery win cars.

The looks will always be Marmite, but as I have a different take on aesthetics to seemingly everyone else, I love it*.

From what I understand, the performance is more accessible than just about anything else on the road, and not dependant on the weather due to the clever 4WD gubbins. Could well be the only car I'd ever need.





* The 959, not Marmite. I don't like being in the same county as Marmite.

WPA

13,275 posts

135 months

Yesterday (09:10)
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Never a fan of the looks and a Ferrari F40 would be my choice over one

kambites

70,378 posts

242 months

Yesterday (09:11)
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Ugly thing isn't it?

Definitely a car I can admire, but not one I desire.

andy43

12,402 posts

275 months

Yesterday (09:18)
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Pereldh said:
For the zillionth time mate...
959 was NOT for Group B Rally class, it was for Group B Racing class, just like Ferrari 288GTO.
The shape is a hint... smile It wouldnt stand a chance in the forest, have you ever BEEN to a rally??? biggrin

That a rebuilt version won the Dakar Rally - as well as Le Mans - doesn't prove anything.
There was a Ferrari 308 rally car but it doesn't mean it was built for WRC.

Secondly, none of the group B rallycars had "hit any showrooms" either in 1986, except the Sport Quattro.


Edited by Pereldh on Monday 26th January 08:09
hehe
Damn you PHChatGPTArticleWriter.

JJJ.

4,102 posts

36 months

Yesterday (09:21)
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wistec1 said:
I'd rather have the BMW M1 featured below.
I think so too.

The 959 was technically brilliant and a head of it's time by all accounts but hell it's an ugly looking thing.

vikingaero

12,136 posts

190 months

Yesterday (09:30)
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Weird that there are no crests/badging on the centre caps.

RicksAlfas

14,259 posts

265 months

Yesterday (09:35)
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vikingaero said:
Weird that there are no crests/badging on the centre caps.
They are embossed.
Some big pics here: https://www.avants.com/magazine/porsche-959