I never turn my engine off at petrol stations!
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I have an RX8 which has the dreaded hot start problem. After about 15 minutes of driving, if you turn the engine off, it won't start for at least 20-30 minutes as the engine needs to cool down. So I have no choice but to leave it running while I pump gas so I can drive off straight away. Otherwise I would block the pump for a long time. And I ain't pushing it over to the side after ever time I fill up!
I know petrol stations say you need to turn off your engine but is that just an advisory or legislation? It can't be dangerous to do this as I have never had any problems. I hope to get the uprated starter motor soon but they're expensive :S Does anyone else do this when pumping gas?
I know petrol stations say you need to turn off your engine but is that just an advisory or legislation? It can't be dangerous to do this as I have never had any problems. I hope to get the uprated starter motor soon but they're expensive :S Does anyone else do this when pumping gas?
Edited by matty6660 on Friday 19th September 16:11
matty6660 said:
I have an RX8 which has the dreaded hot start problem. After about 15 minutes of driving, if you turn the engine off, it won't start for at least 20-30 minutes as the engine needs to cool down. So I have no choice but to leave it running while I pump gas so I can drive off straight away. Otherwise I would block the pump for a long time. And I ain't pushing it over to the side after ever time I fill up!
I know petrol stations say you need to turn off your engine but is that just an advisory or legislation? I've been doing it for about a year and so far no clerks have said anything to me about it. It can't be dangerous to do this as I have never had any problems in the last year. I hope to get the uprated starter motor soon but they're expensive :S Does anyone else do this when pumping gas?
That's fantastic logic! I haven't crashed in the last year so I think I'll stop wearing a seatbelt as clearly it 'can't be dangerous to do this'. I know petrol stations say you need to turn off your engine but is that just an advisory or legislation? I've been doing it for about a year and so far no clerks have said anything to me about it. It can't be dangerous to do this as I have never had any problems in the last year. I hope to get the uprated starter motor soon but they're expensive :S Does anyone else do this when pumping gas?
How the hell did Mazda get away with selling a car that won't start when it's warm anyway?
Serious answer - under DSEAR ( Dangerous Substances & Explosive Atmospheres Regulations 2002 (DSEAR) ) and various other bits of H&S law, station operators have a legal obligation to control ignition sources. Published guidance on this advises them to ensure that engines are switched off prior to allowing fuel to be dispensed.
So - the law doesn't require it, but a station operator could be in breach of the law if they allow engines to run while fuel is being pumped.
So - the law doesn't require it, but a station operator could be in breach of the law if they allow engines to run while fuel is being pumped.
I usually leave the engine running so you can see where abouts the needle has moved to as I'm one of those anal people who drive around with only up to half a tank to save weight
Always get funny looks leaving the engine on.
I do have to turn it off when there's no pay at pump to go and pay as I'm not trusting enough.
Always get funny looks leaving the engine on.
I do have to turn it off when there's no pay at pump to go and pay as I'm not trusting enough.
Wacky Racer said:
Why? Are the pumps that heavy to lift?
The pumps are the same as here, but they only pay wages of around £100/month so you might as well have a dolly bird filling you up. Plus it's all government owned anyway. And I guess it discourages people from driving off without paying.Snollygoster said:
I usually leave the engine running so you can see where abouts the needle has moved to as I'm one of those anal people who drive around with only up to half a tank to save weight
Always get funny looks leaving the engine on.
I do have to turn it off when there's no pay at pump to go and pay as I'm not trusting enough.
Why? Doesn't your gauge work with the ignition on? Always get funny looks leaving the engine on.
I do have to turn it off when there's no pay at pump to go and pay as I'm not trusting enough.
The car starts just fine if the engine is healthy. I doubt the uprated starter would help this guy out anyway and to be honest if he can't afford a £300 starter motor then he shouldn't have purchased the car without looking into running costs with RX-8's, particularly ones in a poor state of health. The problem with RX-8's now is that their residual values are so low that you have people who should be driving a 1.2 Vauxhall Corsa buying the RX-8 because they want a sports car, but these people aren't prepared for the cost of ownership.
A healthy RX-8 like mine costs me fuel, oil and spark plugs to keep going but at the same time I did things differently. I purchased an RX-8 with a bad engine on purpose and had it rebuilt and had new coils installed.
A healthy RX-8 like mine costs me fuel, oil and spark plugs to keep going but at the same time I did things differently. I purchased an RX-8 with a bad engine on purpose and had it rebuilt and had new coils installed.
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