Nobody wants big engined petrols for trade-in.
Discussion
Went to look at a car today, and three out of three times, i've been offered £1500 lower than the book price. (Mondeo st220).
As the dealer, probably correctly said, 'we dont need them, we cant shift them, and people dont want to buy them, they all want little diesels then can pay £20 a year road tax on'.
Bah. Might just keep it now and keep punching holes in the o-zone layer with it, just to prove a point.
As the dealer, probably correctly said, 'we dont need them, we cant shift them, and people dont want to buy them, they all want little diesels then can pay £20 a year road tax on'.
Bah. Might just keep it now and keep punching holes in the o-zone layer with it, just to prove a point.
Tonberry said:
Tricky one for me.
I couldn't sell the ST24 for love nor money. Nearly had to pay someone to take it away.
The ST averaged 30 mpg over it's lifetime and did a mileage of around 10000 to 12000 per annum.
I replaced it with a 2.0HDI that gets 50 mpg around town and upto 60 mpg on a run. Mileage will stay roughly the same per annum.
The fuel savings alone made the change worthwhile although it did cost to change vehicle.
The crux is this.
Although I now drive a crappy 306 Diesel, I am no unhappier than when I had the V6 ST.
The thing is a hoot to drive, is just as practical and IMO looks decent enough.
But most importantly, I can still have fun whilst living in a large city.
Can you all honestly say that you get to utilise and appreciate your cars performance at every opportunity? Because I couldn't with the ST. My progress was constantly hampered which meant driving the thing was a real pain as I could never open the taps.
Now I get to ride around on a wave full of torque steer which is just as fun as letting that V6 roar was.
I was considering a Legacy GTB but what the hell is the point when it'll spend most of it's life under 50mph whilst stuck behind some
who has decided not to drive at the speed limit.
Everyones circumstances are different but when I live in Birmingham and everything I need is within the city, it makes no sense.
This is my main point of concern for the v6.I couldn't sell the ST24 for love nor money. Nearly had to pay someone to take it away.
The ST averaged 30 mpg over it's lifetime and did a mileage of around 10000 to 12000 per annum.
I replaced it with a 2.0HDI that gets 50 mpg around town and upto 60 mpg on a run. Mileage will stay roughly the same per annum.
The fuel savings alone made the change worthwhile although it did cost to change vehicle.
The crux is this.
Although I now drive a crappy 306 Diesel, I am no unhappier than when I had the V6 ST.
The thing is a hoot to drive, is just as practical and IMO looks decent enough.
But most importantly, I can still have fun whilst living in a large city.
Can you all honestly say that you get to utilise and appreciate your cars performance at every opportunity? Because I couldn't with the ST. My progress was constantly hampered which meant driving the thing was a real pain as I could never open the taps.
Now I get to ride around on a wave full of torque steer which is just as fun as letting that V6 roar was.
I was considering a Legacy GTB but what the hell is the point when it'll spend most of it's life under 50mph whilst stuck behind some
who has decided not to drive at the speed limit.Everyones circumstances are different but when I live in Birmingham and everything I need is within the city, it makes no sense.
And believe me, im not shy when it comes to wanting a big car. I nearly went and bought a VXR8 last year but bought a house instead. (Im still pretty suprised the cheapest vxr8 on autotrader is listed at £17,000 but thats another story - maybe you could haggle down a lot).
Anyway, back to the point, is the v6 doing me any good? For the one or two overtakes per week a normal car wouldnt manage... Is it worth all the trips to the petrol station and all the expense? I love driving, but havnt been out for a hoon since i cant remember.
I now wince when i have to put the hammer down, as i know im just blowing £££ out of the exhaust. I also have to spend all the time thinking about what gear im best in, constant check on the revs, in all the effort to drive on a more economical basis. After 20 minutes today of driving in 28degree weather, i finally buckled and put the A/C on. I felt my wallet get lighter as i heard the compressor fire up for the first time in months.
Worst thing i did, and i still regret it every day, was selling my vectra diesel. 40mpg on a v6 if driven carefully with enough torque to get me moving. Lovely to drive and had 16,000 on the clock when i got rid :'(
a_bread said:
I know what you mean. I just sold one big engined petrol for another so what I lost on one side of the trade I made up for (maybe more than) on the other. It's only a problem if you want to step away into a more popular genre of car (such as a nearly new diesel supermini ... and who wants to do that)
Going from the big fat diesel v6 to a 2.0 diesel repmobile estate... Im on a loser i think 
Willy Nilly said:
Those of you saying you are getting circa 30mpg out of V8's, frankly I'm not sure I believe you and if you are doing so, I'd like to witness the driving style that is required to get these figures. If I got my "stbox", as some people so eloquently put it, to do 30mpg I would be in ban territory, or at least a big fine and shagged brakes. It's a pity someone doesn't invent a cruise control when one sets the desired economy to travel at instead of the forward speed. Then we could all set our cruise' at 30mpg and us "stbox" drivers would be steaming past all the V8's.
Im in some agreement. Im getting 23mpg out of a v6 petrol, with careful driving.tbox", as some people so eloquently put it, to do 30mpg I would be in ban territory, or at least a big fine and shagged brakes. It's a pity someone doesn't invent a cruise control when one sets the desired economy to travel at instead of the forward speed. Then we could all set our cruise' at 30mpg and us "stbox" drivers would be steaming past all the V8's. Maybe its the age of the car (2004 65k miles), the technology, or just the way it is.
Despite this, the trip computer tells me im doing 32mpg. But then, trips always talk s
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