Car selling on ebay for alot more than I think its worth...

Car selling on ebay for alot more than I think its worth...

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moronic

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Saturday 17th March 2012
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So I'm selling a car on ebay. I've tried to be honest about it (car was having problems, but for last couple of hundred miles has been running fine).

I reckon the car is worth about 500 quid... And with about 80 people watching its now ticked over the thousand pound mark. It finished tomorrow at lunchtime and I can see it going for 3 times what it's worth.

Now obviously, most people would say be happy. But I don't want to feel like I've ripped anyone off as I've had that happen to me frown and it's not a nice feeling.

I'm not hard of 500 quid, so when they get here do I tell them or send them a message now? I don't want to provide a link on here as I don't want you lot taking the piss by placing loads of silly bids as I DO want rid of it.

So yes, anyone had experience of this? And what did you do?

moronic

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obob said:
Have you described it accurately with all faults and all? If so, then leave it.
I think so. I've said it's pretty tatty and was used to haul garden waste about. I've said it's got an engine warning light on and a problem. I personally wouldn't take the car for free. I did use one of those floor cleaners on the seats today though... I even cleated the caked on mud of the plastic.

moronic

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davepoth said:
Can you PM the link? I promise I won't bid it up; I'm just intrigued.
If I knew how to PM I would...

moronic

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iva cosworth said:
Is this the Megane you paid 2.5K for ? hehe
No that's the one I got ripped off on. smile

Actually thats running really well now. Once I've got the sump thing fixed and the blowers blowing I think I'll have a good car.

moronic

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I'm pretty laid back on here. And am happy to have the mickey taken or be told I am a moron etc...

But I specifically asked for the link NOT to be shared.

And it isn't worth more than 500 quid mate. The car has been used for transporting waste and all sorts. It's also had a problem where it overheated. But as that isn't affecting it I didn't state it, as it isn't a problem now.

I went out of my way to say that people should view or call me before bidding...

Nice work from one internet smart ass.


Edited by moronic on Saturday 17th March 23:21

moronic

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GC8 said:
The OPs in Sheffield, not Winchester.
No I'm in winchester. Post uni address.

moronic

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focusrite said:
"Fresh with my new tool kit I decided today to take out the egr valve from my horrible 407 car. I read online it was a nice simple job, and that you could do it yourself. Being a nice innocent type I stupidly believed these people on the internet and set about completing the jobs myself. After about 4 hours I have managed to take the egr valve off and put if back on, there my success ends."


"I have taken this to a garage and was told that the EGR valve will be sooty and that I could have it taken of or cleaned. However I have never seen the need to do this as the car still runs well"
Yes and I spent over 400 quid getting that all put right. The fact that I've got the receipts for it, doens't change your little opinion does it.

Either way, sorry but I think your a cock. I asked for the add not to be put on here, and instead you thought you'd be an internet hero and do it. Imageine if the person who buys the car and who is happy reads this tomorrow night... Not great is it...

If you really really thought I was trying to have someone over: 1) why not email me on here or whatever, 2) why would I start a thread about it?

You need to get a life you sad little person.

moronic

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fatboy69 said:
assuming that you have been honest with your advert, & you dont hide anything from the buyer, i dont think you have got anything to be worried about.

if it goes for 1200/1300 & you sell it 'sold as seen no guarantee given or implied' you should be ok - just get the buyer to sign the sales receipt confirming he is happy to purchase the car 'as seen'.

maybe you shouldnt have started this particular thread as we all read your previous thread so we knew that the car in question was a 407.

from that alone, & the fact that you have previously stated you live in winchester, it wouldnt have been too difficult to track it down on-line.

just take the money which will cover what you have spent on your horrible (in my opinion) megane!
Maybe mate. I'm not about ripping anyone off tbh. I know the feeling of being excited and happy to own something and realizing slowly (but that's for the other thread) that your screwed.

And it's not about making money back from the megane. It's about getting rid of a car that I don't want or need any more.

moronic

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tim0409 said:
I am always surprised at what sells on eBay but you haven't been as explicit as you could have been if the interior is as bad as you have stated on here - you state in the eBay advert that you used the car for running your garden business, not transporting waste around and there are no interior pictures. How bad is the interior?

Keep us informed.
Well I did. Anything too horrible or nasty was taken away in a friends transit tipper. I have spent half a day properly cleaning the inside. And it now looks quite respectable. But to my mind that doens't change the fact that at some point in it's life it's had organic matter decaying in there.

I'll take a couple of pics in the morning of the interior. And yes it does run well now, with just the antipollution fault problem. I even drove it 70 odd miles to price a big big job last week and it was great and averaged 53mpg, but then admittedly I was driving like a granny.

moronic

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tim0409 said:
You shouldn't really be posting questions on a public forum then.
I posted a question about something that was troubling me... I though that maybe someone on here might have been in the same situation before.

I basically wanted to ask what you do when you know something is selling for more than it's worth, as a general question. I didn't want to get into the specifics of the car I was selling.

moronic

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halo34 said:
Then why not put in on for a fixed price instead of letting it go to auction?
Because I didn't want to have to work out properly what it was worth without really knowing. Because in all honesty I don't give a st about the car and just want rid. The easiest way in my mind to get rid of it was a three day listing. Giving me time to clean it.

moronic

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focusrite said:
Nothing against you personally but you're proven to have lied once in your ad and your OP shows that you're feeling guilty over potentially ripping someone off. Perhaps there's more to the story than you're letting on?
Where did I lie? I feel guilty about taking more money for something than I think it's worth. Now I know this is odd to most people, but I feel guilty if I quote for a tree take down in a day in my normal job and we are packing away by 1...

Edit to say - if I have got something wrong in the add I'm more than happy to change it now or tonight.

moronic

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focusrite said:
Quite plainly says you haven't removed EGR valve in your ad. When in fact you have another topic going where you've got pictures of it removed???
Fair enough - what I meant was that another garage have looked as it and put it on the computer and said it needs cleaning and possible changing. And I was advised to leave it until it's a problem.

But I accept your point. I can honestly and completely honestly say that just didn't cross my mind when I wrote that add.

Also sorry for my rudeness earlier, it wansn't warranted and I apologise.

moronic

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focusrite said:
Apology accepted but to be perfectly honest your confession(s) should be heard by your potential ebay buyers. Perhaps it would be prudent to cancel your auction and re-list with 100% truth. Your conscience will be clear and your car WILL sell for more than 500 guaranteed. WIN - WIN
If you honestly think it will be helpful to anyone buying the car I will EDIT the listing to say the car has had the egr taken off. I will also show the garage report saying it's not a problem at the moment to anyone buying and explain it in person.

Will that be acceptable to you?

moronic

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Sunday 18th March 2012
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fwaggie said:
Back to the OP post, tell the truth in the advert, and when they come to see it whilst the auction is running and your conscience is clear.

You can't be responsible if the buyer is an idiot, and no one would expect you reduce the final price by a large amount just in case the end buyer is a moron.

Print off a simple receipt (Sold <car name, reg, year, model> to <buyer name> on <date>. Terms: Private sale, sold as seen. Signed <you> <them>), 2 copies, get them to sign both, you do the same, give them one, keep the other.


If they come back complaining, tell them it is a private sale, sold as seen, and they accepted those terms when they signed, and the law states all sales are Sold As Seen and close the door. Do not engage in any discussion what so ever.

If they try to go on and on and on just restate what I've said to say above. And again. And again if they go on, etc, etc.

If it escalates, go inside, call police, get video camera and video them through the windows so you can show the police when they arrive.

Not that that'll happen, very very rarely is there any problem.
The truth is. The car is running well apart from an anti-pollution fault. I have had this checked using Peugeot Planet (there specialist software) and it came back as an EGR fault. No others listed. I have stated this.

I'm not worried about being physically threatened by anyone (I sometimes work with travellers, I know how to deal with it, and I'm not exactly small) I'm more worried about someone paying loads more than something is worth and me having to live with it.

That was what my thread was about. What have you done in that situation?

moronic

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Sunday 18th March 2012
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Rollcage said:
Not that it matters, but that error message is more likely to be a partly blocked DPF filter isnt it?
Not according to Peugeot Planet. I got an independent to run a code check on it, and it says EGR valve.

moronic

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fatboy69 said:
amend the advert slghtly, be honest, get the buyer to sign a 'sold as seen' disclosure & you are covered.

if he/she doesnt like it once they have paid up & sign the disclaimer just tell them to fk off!!!

honesty is the best policy so be honest, take the money & you should have a clear conscience. no-one is forcing any potential buyer to make the bid or pay over their winning bid.
I've just read the advert back. And I'm not sure what to ammend, OK I took it off before taking propper advice, but once experts have taken a look I was told to leave alone...

Now I could bog the add down with an edit saying before taking to to the specialist I tried doing it myself and it cost me a kings randsome to sort out. But how does this help the buyer? They still have the written report after the fact...


moronic

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Bloke is coming t pick it up tomorrow for 1600... Really happy. And I don't feet guilty after reading that I as just undervaluing the car.

moronic

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fatboy69 said:
No reason why you should feel guilty. It's a case of buyer beware as you found out with the Megane.
Just about to post an update... Now THAT is a success story.

moronic

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hairykrishna said:
I'd say he got a good deal at that. Everyone's a winner.
Well I'm delighted. As long as he come along and doesn't want to play silly buggers. Heard stories of people selling cars on ebay an the buyer coming along and offering 50 quid instead...