1,000 miles in. Diesel haters, nothing to see here!
Discussion
Had the 640d for a month or so now. It replaced a rather differently engined previous generation 6 series - a V10 M6.
The M6 was great, but the issue was not mpg, but range. PIA when I had to drive "oop north", filling it 3 times in 2 days was rather tedious. Even on a run (respectable 24mpg) it would only do 300 miles.
I dont consider the 640d to be a direct rival - of course, if I had £90k spare, I'd get the new M6. Having said that, in every day driving it is still a pretty potent machine, and I still enjoy driving it.
There is no denying it is a large car, but I think they have improved the design over the previous shape 6, most notably with the rear, which on the last car was nothing short of damn ugly.
Driving the car sees fantastic acceleration from no revs at all, making overtaking a piece of cake - The M6 was a rocket, but only if you were in the right gear. Despite being a derv, it also doesnt mind revs, and is quite happy to sail round to 5k. Whilst no V10 petrol, it makes a pretty decent noise - and certainly doesnt sound like a diesel - even at start up. Ride (firm on 20's but perfectly ok) and handling are really good for a car of this size.
Spec is pretty generous - my car is only a bog standard M Sport bar the 20 inch wheels, but still comes with Prof Media inc. Hard drive and telematics, Business Hi-Fi, elec memory heated seats, Xenons, Cruise, front and rear park, USB interface, and more besides. I do miss head-up display though!
To date, it's returning 40mpg overall after 1,000 mixed miles, and will easily top 50 at the motorway limit - this means a range of over 600 miles. Pretty amazing for a large coupe with over 300bhp, and 600+NM of torque.
As a day to day car it fits my needs perfectly. It isn't a sports car, and it doesn't pretend to be, but as a quick, comfortable, highly spec'd GT car, I think it does a great job. I would never stick my own cash into buying one, but with a great lease price on a par with cars costing half the price I think it makes a great case for its self.
A more PH weekend car will be joining it in the garage though, fear not!
The M6 was great, but the issue was not mpg, but range. PIA when I had to drive "oop north", filling it 3 times in 2 days was rather tedious. Even on a run (respectable 24mpg) it would only do 300 miles.
I dont consider the 640d to be a direct rival - of course, if I had £90k spare, I'd get the new M6. Having said that, in every day driving it is still a pretty potent machine, and I still enjoy driving it.
There is no denying it is a large car, but I think they have improved the design over the previous shape 6, most notably with the rear, which on the last car was nothing short of damn ugly.
Driving the car sees fantastic acceleration from no revs at all, making overtaking a piece of cake - The M6 was a rocket, but only if you were in the right gear. Despite being a derv, it also doesnt mind revs, and is quite happy to sail round to 5k. Whilst no V10 petrol, it makes a pretty decent noise - and certainly doesnt sound like a diesel - even at start up. Ride (firm on 20's but perfectly ok) and handling are really good for a car of this size.
Spec is pretty generous - my car is only a bog standard M Sport bar the 20 inch wheels, but still comes with Prof Media inc. Hard drive and telematics, Business Hi-Fi, elec memory heated seats, Xenons, Cruise, front and rear park, USB interface, and more besides. I do miss head-up display though!
To date, it's returning 40mpg overall after 1,000 mixed miles, and will easily top 50 at the motorway limit - this means a range of over 600 miles. Pretty amazing for a large coupe with over 300bhp, and 600+NM of torque.
As a day to day car it fits my needs perfectly. It isn't a sports car, and it doesn't pretend to be, but as a quick, comfortable, highly spec'd GT car, I think it does a great job. I would never stick my own cash into buying one, but with a great lease price on a par with cars costing half the price I think it makes a great case for its self.
A more PH weekend car will be joining it in the garage though, fear not!
McSam said:
That is chuffing lovely, well done! It's evolved into a genuinely beautiful car, in and out.
And.. 40mpg?! Is that a definite, brim-to-brim figure? Insane.. I love BMW for things like this
That's over 1,000 miles of having fun. My journey back from collecting it sitting (mostly) at the speed limit gave 52...And.. 40mpg?! Is that a definite, brim-to-brim figure? Insane.. I love BMW for things like this
Tyrewrecker said:
edo said:
A couple of pints of beer over £600 a month including VAT, 12,000 miles and a service pack. (30 months).
Thanks. Seems like a good deal. To further my laziness, what is the RRP?My friend just got a new 7 series, 730 even less on a 2year deal.
mercGLowner said:
This thread has made my day! Thanks Edo, it looks absolutely fantastic!
I pick mine up tomorrow morning at 10 AM, 640d M Sport in Carbon Black, ivory leather, standard spec with some modest options (DAB, Telephone USB, BMW Apps and wood trim). I only have the poverty spec 19's though, couldn't justify the £1100 extra for 20"s.
Can't wait and will post up some comparison pics.....
Is yours Carbon or Sapphire?
Cool... Mine was already built - I probably wouldnt have put the 20's on it if I had been specing it. It is Black Sapphire I believe.I pick mine up tomorrow morning at 10 AM, 640d M Sport in Carbon Black, ivory leather, standard spec with some modest options (DAB, Telephone USB, BMW Apps and wood trim). I only have the poverty spec 19's though, couldn't justify the £1100 extra for 20"s.
Can't wait and will post up some comparison pics.....
Is yours Carbon or Sapphire?
Enjoy the collection tomorrow!
David87 said:
That leasing price is seriously tempting! Do you have to take whatever spec they have or can you have a car built to order under it? Car looks great, OP.
I just took a car that was built because I didnt want to wait. You can spec any car you like, but I'm hearing people who ordered recently arent getting cars till July now...If anyone wants the details of the sales guy I dealt with, please drop me a message. Top fella.
Dave Hedgehog said:
redtwin said:
They really have improved the aesthetics, haven't seen one of those before.
i don't normally like bimmers, i find the exterior at best awkward at worse ugly and i really dislike the interiors with there giant faux metal strip ...but that car is stunning inside and out i really want one
not sure on the engine thou, the V6 audi TDi i have atm is bloody hopeless, 70% of the time you press the throttle and nothing happens, and half the time that it does shoot off you don't bloody want it too
okie592 said:
i think im the only person that prefers the back of the old one apposed to this one, it looks like the old one thats been squished down so its spread out a bit
still its lovely, alot nicer than a A5 Which i guess is a rival,
i would say the A5 rival would be the 3 series coupe, non?still its lovely, alot nicer than a A5 Which i guess is a rival,
mercGLowner said:
How can this look horrid? I know taste is personal, but come on, it is a stunning looking car, everything it's predecessor wasn't.
Looks great, congrats. 19's dont really look any different to the 20's TBH. Like the interior too. I was just worried about pale carpets.
okie592 said:
what are the attached to the bottom grills, they look like DRLS but i assume a beemer would have leds, seems wierd they dont have fog lights though
V8Triumph said:
edo- after reading this thread I have been inspired to write a thread of my own on general gassing and have used your interior photo, I hope you don't mind.
As an aside, car looks very good in black. I didn't even know there was a new shape 6 series out until I read this thread.
no probsAs an aside, car looks very good in black.
I didn't even know there was a new shape 6 series out until I read this thread. At idle ad pottering (not under load) the engine is almost unheard.
The smoothness is not far off a petrol 6 in my humble opinion.
Car is now at 3,500 miles. MPG is still sitting at a smidge under 40mpg without effort in a mix of cruise/fun/traffic.
For a diesel (and even just generally) the engine is very happy revving and doesn't dislike revs at all.
Very happy to demo the car to anyone in Surrey. Everyone who has been in it (including some real die hard Diesel haters!) have been blown away by it.
Youtube vid (not mine) gives a little idea of the noise - if anything I'd say this doesnt do it justice for the smoothness.
The smoothness is not far off a petrol 6 in my humble opinion.
Car is now at 3,500 miles. MPG is still sitting at a smidge under 40mpg without effort in a mix of cruise/fun/traffic.
For a diesel (and even just generally) the engine is very happy revving and doesn't dislike revs at all.
Very happy to demo the car to anyone in Surrey. Everyone who has been in it (including some real die hard Diesel haters!) have been blown away by it.
Youtube vid (not mine) gives a little idea of the noise - if anything I'd say this doesnt do it justice for the smoothness.
E38Ross said:
edo - how smooth is the engine compared to a straight 6 petrol? what about compared to the V10 in the old M6? i'm guessing at motorway speeds (or well north of) when just cruising the engine cannot be heard from inside the cabin? what sort of rpm does it do in 8th gear at 75 or so?
cheers
Ps - need to check at motorway speeds but it is very low at 75 or so.cheers
Edited by E38Ross on Wednesday 30th May 16:49
Not sure.
I think thats the issue with all these cars. The tech squeezed into the 640d and similar cars is so immense that out of warranty would be a no no for me.
Looking forward to the arrival of the Tiv: No ABS, Air Bags, Traction Control or Power Steering!! Just an engine some scaffolding, leather, carpet, and some fibre-glass!
I think thats the issue with all these cars. The tech squeezed into the 640d and similar cars is so immense that out of warranty would be a no no for me.
Looking forward to the arrival of the Tiv: No ABS, Air Bags, Traction Control or Power Steering!! Just an engine some scaffolding, leather, carpet, and some fibre-glass!
CampDavid said:
Still got the 320D as well?
It's an impressive thing, I guess that 10 years back my E38 740i Sport would have been the car that the typical 640D buyer is now going for so, while different, the demographic is the same. Both deeply impressive machines. 20 inch rims though?
yes, still got the ed 320d. that is sitting at 55mpg since we got it without effort.....It's an impressive thing, I guess that 10 years back my E38 740i Sport would have been the car that the typical 640D buyer is now going for so, while different, the demographic is the same. Both deeply impressive machines. 20 inch rims though?
20 inch wheels would not have been something i would have spec'd but the car had them. ride is fine.
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