Kia Cee'd 1.6 CRDi £21k RRP WTF

Kia Cee'd 1.6 CRDi £21k RRP WTF

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Welshbeef

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Sorry to post this up but saw this I a recent Autocar. Now I pretty much like the Cee'd 7 year warranty etc comfy seat lots of kit.

However I'm sorry but this price is crazy

Or is this the impact of QE???
Give me a three year old 330d plus a CTR for the same thank you very much.

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Bloody Hell I didn't realise they were that much. Christ is not be buying any of those new

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mackie1 said:
New car prices are way high, although you never really pay list. Skoda were selling Fabias and Octavias last year for 20% off list. An Octavia vRS came in at about £16k when a Golf GTI (with lower spec and little discount offered) would set you back £24k.
Exactly you'd need 9,000 reasons to want the Golf over the Octavia.

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But list price dictates the BIK tax for co car drivers. Discount is irrelevant your taxed on its list price even if your company was given it free...


Do people buy these cars new privately? Surely they are all motability or co cars or cars which the manufacturer allowed staff to buy and run for a few months then sell it back.

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DoctorX said:
Was in a Ford showroom today. They had a Focus Titanium X marked up for 27 grand. Gobsmacked.
Wow and in 4-5years time trade in £6k tops. Which would be depreciation of 550-600pcm net salary. Not far off taking a £10k gross per year pay cut.

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CDP said:
It's crazy.

Leasing prices make things look even sillier. You can get an A6 for half the price of that Focus.
Just think you can buy a C5 RS6 for £10k. It will do 18-20mpg it may cost £2k per year servicing budget but it would be vastly cheaper than the £27k focus titanium and you could have a Leon Cupra R for £4-5 k extra and you wouldn't lose much if any cash in both.

Utter madness. I'll never buy new buy used 3 years newest then own for min four years and always buy the best fastest model you can.

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DoctorX said:
My Mondeo had a List price of £26500. Bought one year old, < 5000 miles, £13,500. Half price, thank you very much. Straightjacket required for anyone paying near list for that Focus.
That's essentially a brand new car in my eyes.
After 5 years ownership in guessing it will be worth £3k worst case? So £2k per year depreciation £167pcm after 5 years give it to the wife to run for a further 5 years while you go out and buy a replacement repeat until you retire and require one car.

Job done. Cheap motoring.

You could have bought an RS6 for the same price.... With hardly any depreciation...

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flatline84 said:
The RS6 might be a bit of a gamble though, Ive read things about that cars that would make any accountant weep.
Well they have been £10k for years now and really due to low numbers shouldn't drop too much below that.

Also if you buy a car for £28k focus titanium well you have £18k of depreciation to pay for failures.
The suspension can go on them which is mega money but you can opt for coil overs instead which so many owners have that's under £2k fitted and will not break.

It is a 330km/h car carry five big men a la Layer Cake. Plus you just know when you turn up somewhere in that people notice it the boy done good. Women may enjoy the feel of the vibration through the leather seat as you max out the motor. No doubt they will give you what you want.

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Otispunkmeyer said:
By some one that's for sure. Must suit the financial services guys very well. They probably long for the day that no one owns anything and it's all just debt that they can shuffle around on computer screens and then have huge amounts of virtual profits pour out the back. Doing everyone a great service no doubt.
Choice is what's key
Debt free and 100% owned is also a nice place to be


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DoctorX said:
Tempting. but in future I'm more inclined to buy a car for 6K and put the £200 p/m aside for maintenance.
Exactly
E55 AmG komoressor Job done.

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DoctorX said:
Welshbeef said:
Exactly
E55 AmG komoressor Job done.
Nice, but more like £200/week maintenance laugh
Maybe maybe not thing is you'd remember the ownership period with a fat grin. You wouldn't about Kia Cee'd or other mundane £20k ist euro diesel boxes.
You might talk about mega mpg and good warranty.... Or you could be talking about 500bhp destroying everything on the road the lovely v8 roar

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CDP said:
If buying something like an Insignia I think I'd be looking at the £7K examples. My experience with Vauxhalls tells me it will be boring but utterly reliable so worth it as "white goods" but never desirable.

31,000 is just stupid and I reckon he'll be lucky to get 15 for it in a year's time.
£31k on an Insignia LOL more £ than sense.
My punt is 3 years £4k tops.

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flatline84 said:
Insane. Buy a tidy 7k example and a E46 M3 for 10 grand as a weekend car. All you ever need and no need to envy any man.
And the rest on an RS6 C5 avant for those family trips or POWER monents

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flatline84 said:
Im never buying one after reading about running costs. Eyewatering would be like saying sahara is a bit dry.
They cost £10k insignia £31k the insignia will lose £8k per year
Someone doing 15k a year at 18mpg and £1.43 per ltr would spend c£5.4k per year in fuel while this diesel doing say 50mpg at £1.48 per ltr would spend c£2k so £3.4k per year more in fuel but as the insignia loses £8k you would still be over £4k per year better off.

Recommended budget for running the RS6 is £2k per year do really it is viable