Driver "aids" Why so many? Can no-one drive anymore?
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Opportunity to have a rant.
Why so many " Driver Aids"
If drivers need all this help, they should not be allowed on the road, lights that come on when dark or raining, wipers that start when it drizzles, auto reverse parking, reversing sensors, heads up displays, tyre pressure remote guages, out of lane warning sensors, cruise control and the list goes on and on!! Dont even start me on " Start Stop " technology bo****cks!!
Can nobody be bothered to actually drive their bl***dy car, Go get the bus and be done with it.
Make the driving test harder to pass, compulsory retest every 10 years and give the control of the car back to the driver!!
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Does anyone else despair of the manufacturers building cars with so many "aids" the driver is only a steering dummy!
I feel better now. Thanks..
Why so many " Driver Aids"
If drivers need all this help, they should not be allowed on the road, lights that come on when dark or raining, wipers that start when it drizzles, auto reverse parking, reversing sensors, heads up displays, tyre pressure remote guages, out of lane warning sensors, cruise control and the list goes on and on!! Dont even start me on " Start Stop " technology bo****cks!!
Can nobody be bothered to actually drive their bl***dy car, Go get the bus and be done with it.
Make the driving test harder to pass, compulsory retest every 10 years and give the control of the car back to the driver!!
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Does anyone else despair of the manufacturers building cars with so many "aids" the driver is only a steering dummy!
I feel better now. Thanks..
Boredom Rant.
I prefer the pure feeling of driving, oh look its raining I will turn on my wipers,its getting dark I will turn my lights on, oh the traffic has stopped for 3 seconds I will turn off my engine and restart when ready to move again.
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Not trying to offend anyone but if you cant park your own car without help, WTF as they say!!
I prefer the pure feeling of driving, oh look its raining I will turn on my wipers,its getting dark I will turn my lights on, oh the traffic has stopped for 3 seconds I will turn off my engine and restart when ready to move again.
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Not trying to offend anyone but if you cant park your own car without help, WTF as they say!!
Davel said:
Having got rid of my Disco 4 HSE with auto virtually everything, I'm quite enjoying the new Defender without all the gadgets.
The drive is much more involving and not an awful lot slower in journey time.
.The drive is much more involving and not an awful lot slower in journey time.
Hurrah Thanks, My TVR is much the same, basic stuff like windscreen wipers and indicators but everything else needs driver input!!
Cos every other manufacturer is taking over the driving of all cars so I bought an old one!!
It wont be long before roads will be like a huge scalextric track, all the dummies just step into a passenger pod which runs in a slot, which transports them to somewhere near where they want to go!
Personal choice will be gone, no more procreation, people will be chosen and cloned, breathing will be taxed and cars will be banned except in museums!
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Have I gone a little over the top do you think??
It wont be long before roads will be like a huge scalextric track, all the dummies just step into a passenger pod which runs in a slot, which transports them to somewhere near where they want to go!
Personal choice will be gone, no more procreation, people will be chosen and cloned, breathing will be taxed and cars will be banned except in museums!
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Have I gone a little over the top do you think??
My original post only mentions some of the "aids" that have subsequently been ranted about, I realise the benefits of the safety ones, ABS ESP etc,and accept in these days of travel they do help, but when do self illuminating lights become necessary?
Yes I know a starter motor working on the key is preferable, that is not so much an aid as a requirement due to ability to wind a starter handle.
But its up to a driver to be aware of what is going on around them.
Or are they all too busy now they have time to use mobile phones and beard trimmers while driving??
Yes I know a starter motor working on the key is preferable, that is not so much an aid as a requirement due to ability to wind a starter handle.
But its up to a driver to be aware of what is going on around them.
Or are they all too busy now they have time to use mobile phones and beard trimmers while driving??
Edited by S2Mike on Wednesday 26th September 11:55
gradeA said:
S2Mike said:
It wont be long before roads will be like a huge scalextric track, all the dummies just step into a passenger pod which runs in a slot, which transports them to somewhere near where they want to go!
HTH
Oh My Gosh,
Its happening already, my prediction has come true.
I blinkin told you so!!!
We are all dooooomed, doooomed we are!!
Thats a good point all these "aids" are ok for some people, but when they don't work, or break. They are expensive, quite often, and with parking sensors, if you just rely on them, the first you know is the crunch of broken lights. As mentioned before, also its just a matter of time until a responsive cruise controlled car is in a rearender shunt cos the "driver" wasn't alert. As humans, the less we have to do, the less we want to do. Hence this boredom thread.
This has proved very entertaining though, and some good arguments ffrom both camps, for and against "aids", not too many personal jibes, hopefully I have just voiced what some were thinking, but taken it a step further.
This has proved very entertaining though, and some good arguments ffrom both camps, for and against "aids", not too many personal jibes, hopefully I have just voiced what some were thinking, but taken it a step further.
Whats with the fixation on Starting Handles??????
In my original post I listed several, more insignificant extra technology, that without which you can safely start and drive a car, I did not include any fundamental essentials to actually start the car, or indeed ABS,which I agree is a good thing, what my point was>>>>
why do we need the car to park its self?? Unless you are one of those unfortunate people who have a disablement of some sort, for an able bodied person parking should not be so difficult that it needs to be done for you, plus, as mentioned just before, auto lights can be fooled by light conditions, so the driver unused to physically turning their lights on, will be more likely to drive in poor conditions with no lights on!!!
In my original post I listed several, more insignificant extra technology, that without which you can safely start and drive a car, I did not include any fundamental essentials to actually start the car, or indeed ABS,which I agree is a good thing, what my point was>>>>
why do we need the car to park its self?? Unless you are one of those unfortunate people who have a disablement of some sort, for an able bodied person parking should not be so difficult that it needs to be done for you, plus, as mentioned just before, auto lights can be fooled by light conditions, so the driver unused to physically turning their lights on, will be more likely to drive in poor conditions with no lights on!!!
Promethius said:
Most of today's drivers - and riders - are ready consumers of any high-tech equipment, but few of them ever wonder what the upkeep cost will be.
Before long we will have good cars being written off simply because some pointless bit of electronics is faulty, and the reapir (inevitabley by replacement~ cost ewxceeds the value of the car - or in many cases the ability of the owner to pay for it.
ABS and ASC etc have not been made compulsory in order to help the poor incapable motorist, but are the result of lobbying by the manufacturers, who realise that they will eventually halp them to sell more cars.
.Before long we will have good cars being written off simply because some pointless bit of electronics is faulty, and the reapir (inevitabley by replacement~ cost ewxceeds the value of the car - or in many cases the ability of the owner to pay for it.
ABS and ASC etc have not been made compulsory in order to help the poor incapable motorist, but are the result of lobbying by the manufacturers, who realise that they will eventually halp them to sell more cars.
Thank You Thank You
Sense prevails!!
KaraK said:
Twincam16 said:
KaraK said:
Either that or people will apply some good old fashioned common sense and realise that just because their auto-wipers have failed and need to be manually controlled doesn't mean it needs to be scrapped. But lets not let that stop us from declaring that the sky is falling eh?
I think the problem is that the EU seems determined to make such things MoT failure points. You either fix it or you get a new car because the EU will deem it unroadworthy.Your fancy gimmicky electric windows, if they don't work, MOT tester will fail the car, as he would be unable to operate the rolling road from the driver seat, to name one. ABS is a good thing I agree, but that was never part of my gripe!!
Timbo_Mint said:
S2Mike said:
Hurrah Thanks, My TVR is much the same, basic stuff like windscreen wipers and indicators but everything else needs driver input!!
But as a previous post has pointed out at one time you would have to stick your hand out the window to indicate a (right) turn.Does your TVR have an Auto choke?
Do you have to start it with a handle at the front of the car?
I was loaned a BMW several months back and the one thing I remember is the auto-dimming rear view mirror. A god send.
What does get me is the signs that light up to tell you what speed you should take a corner. Now that is removing the responsibility of controlling the car from the driver. One near where I live is signed for 40. On a wet day, in a clapped out car, it could be interesting but 'the sign says I can take it at that speed'.
It depends how far you take driver aids, does it not.
One could say that a fuel tank that automatically feeds the engine is a driver aid,
In the old days you had to stoke up the furnace with coal, by hand you know!!
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