To VAG or not to VAG...
Discussion
So the accord has been an absolute rock but the time is now for a fun hot hatch before impending baby plans lead me to overcomponsate and get a giant volvo.
Was looking at the M135i but can't justify the numbers right now which led me to think about a bit of gti or something for a year.
Looking at mk5s they seem to be at 6-8k for a solid one privately and that is tempting. On the other side the Leon fr is cheaper but the interior looks a bit cheap. Cupra an option?
Can anyone advise are there significant difference between a Leon fr and a gti? Aside from interior would I miss out on much if I went Spanish? Well, germanic Spanish lol
All advice appreciated hhappy to pull the trigger on a good golf if that's the consensus.
Ps anyone want a 2006 accord for a good price :-)
Cheersm
Was looking at the M135i but can't justify the numbers right now which led me to think about a bit of gti or something for a year.
Looking at mk5s they seem to be at 6-8k for a solid one privately and that is tempting. On the other side the Leon fr is cheaper but the interior looks a bit cheap. Cupra an option?
Can anyone advise are there significant difference between a Leon fr and a gti? Aside from interior would I miss out on much if I went Spanish? Well, germanic Spanish lol
All advice appreciated hhappy to pull the trigger on a good golf if that's the consensus.
Ps anyone want a 2006 accord for a good price :-)
Cheersm
AudiWurst said:
How about a 5 door BMW 130i?
RWD, great engine, just about squeezes into budget.
It's on the list, with three or four others like an s2000, brera (for the looks) and a vrs of some sort. RWD, great engine, just about squeezes into budget.
Just want to get an idea of quality/drive differences between a seat and a Vw. As it's only for a year potentially I want to have the most fun but it needs to be a decent enough place to sit. The Leon fascia does look honking without a sat Nav to cover it up! !
GreatGranny said:
Buy this, but be quick, he's trading it in tomorrow :-)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
Yummy amount of power and rwd for sure. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
ED30 sounds decent, I think I am going to do this on a "right car right time" basis" and keep an open mind but the 30 does look the part and the extra grunt would be enjoyable.
I did see there were 1 or 2 mk5s in the VW used car network but they looked to be at the thick end of 10/11k - suppose on the plus side I could trade my car in but the value would probably be laughable.
I did see there were 1 or 2 mk5s in the VW used car network but they looked to be at the thick end of 10/11k - suppose on the plus side I could trade my car in but the value would probably be laughable.
RizzoTheRat said:
If you're comparing the Golf GTI and Leon Cupra then it may also be worth taking a look at the Octavia vRS, same car underneath but bigger body and huge boot means you won't be thinking about changing it when impending baby plans come to fruition.
VRS is on the list for sure - just not so keen on the looks but I won't discount the petrol version. I drove the diesel and it just felt like a Touran TDI in truth.RizzoTheRat said:
Nothing wrong with that 
Yup every 9-12 months I change cars, get the itchy feet and all that. Guilty as charged lol.A hot hatch may well be the right car for a couple of years but I just know closer to us having another child I will start looking at fast estates, can't resist doing the homework.
skyrover said:
why a hot hatch?
Why not something rwd and coupe'ish?
it could be a 6 series for the giggle of a 4.4 engine - I am only asking for the VAG comparison as the two models are fairly abundant on the used market.Why not something rwd and coupe'ish?
I'm pretty tall and tend to eliminate anyone/thing sitting behind me - so the plan is hot hatch for now, big car down the line so a baby seat or the teen can get behind me. Again, open to all suggestions, but on the VAG side just wondered about gti vs leon etc.
Lots of good advice so far thank you. I can see my budget creeping a tiny bit for the right ED30 possibly.
Gaz. said:
Sorry, I thought I read that this car was just for you 
it is weekdays, but weekends I do the family driving as I like being on the road. Just needs to be a wee bit practical.Although the desire to mug that off in favour of an S2000 or 350z is mighty appealing.
Stupid family, getting in the way of my dreams.
decadent said:
I'd take the Golf GTi over the FR Leon at that price bracket. Doubt you'll get a FL Mk2 Leon FR/Cupra for £7.5k with the improved interior and the ride quality is pretty harsh on the pre FL FR (not sure about cupra IIRC it always had a better ride quality than other pre FL sporty Leons).
Worth mentioning the FR TFSI is equivalent to the GTI, the Cupra is equivalent to the ED30 with the bigger K04 turbo. Cupra is a bargain really when you think of it like that imo.
Cheers that clears up the differences in models/facelifts etc. Sort of have an idea of what to look for now!Worth mentioning the FR TFSI is equivalent to the GTI, the Cupra is equivalent to the ED30 with the bigger K04 turbo. Cupra is a bargain really when you think of it like that imo.
Willy Nilly said:
I can't imagine going from a Honda to a VAG. My Civic replaced a MKII Golf 11 years ago and it is head and shoulders the better car to own. I realise you are after a hot hatch and had different requirements to me, but there is something very reassuring about Honda reliability.
The Honda has been bulletproof - in that respect it is mad to get rid as it really has done a great job, but my commute has become a trickle to the station and it almost feels like too much car right now. Also this is my last chance for a wee while to have something a bit frisky. Totally agree though, the reliability and general worry-free driving of the Accord has been great. Just doesn't fit my needs at the moment and I have the itchy trigger finger
aka_kerrly said:
You really have to test drive one. Everyone's expectations are different and some people insist cars are really harsh where as others have no issue.
As it happens a mate of mine bought a FN2 instead of a Leon Cupra R as he found the civic softer and his missus thinks it's quieter. They took theirs from the UK to Poland and back and had no complaints about the ride, loved the practicality an general running costs.
I thought the FN2 was a bit of a non event in standard form :-(
Would 7-8k get me into one? As it happens a mate of mine bought a FN2 instead of a Leon Cupra R as he found the civic softer and his missus thinks it's quieter. They took theirs from the UK to Poland and back and had no complaints about the ride, loved the practicality an general running costs.
I thought the FN2 was a bit of a non event in standard form :-(
aka_kerrly said:
You really have to test drive one. Everyone's expectations are different and some people insist cars are really harsh where as others have no issue.
As it happens a mate of mine bought a FN2 instead of a Leon Cupra R as he found the civic softer and his missus thinks it's quieter. They took theirs from the UK to Poland and back and had no complaints about the ride, loved the practicality an general running costs.
I thought the FN2 was a bit of a non event in standard form :-(
Would 7-8k get me into one? As it happens a mate of mine bought a FN2 instead of a Leon Cupra R as he found the civic softer and his missus thinks it's quieter. They took theirs from the UK to Poland and back and had no complaints about the ride, loved the practicality an general running costs.
I thought the FN2 was a bit of a non event in standard form :-(
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