Two cars modified to create one, which registration?

[DonnyMac]

Please read point 3 (page 6) of this PDF -

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_...

If you took the drive train, chassis, engine etc from one car and welded the body of another on to this chassis what registration would the resulting car have for insurance purposes?

[DonnyMac]

It does say at the bottom of point 3 that any vehicle made of two cars welded together would need an SVA and given a 'Q' plate but the way it is worded it seems if the vehicle doesn't first gain it's 8 points from the list -

5 for the chassis
2 for suspension
1 for engine
2 axels
2 transmission
2 steering assembly

Etc.

The vehicle in question gets 12 points, only missing the suspension which is modified - essentially a complete car with another body welded on top.

[DonnyMac]

Agreed, highly modified car, monocoque of the body was cut to bits and welded on top of a complete chassis of another car.

I'd like to get a few more responses to form a consensus either way and then I'll reveal the car for final confirmation and subsequent thoughts on insurance.

[DonnyMac]

The chassis from the original car would be thought to be original no, so it gets 5 points from the rolling chassis that the cut body is welded on to? It ticks all the other points options except the suspension as that's modified between the existing rolling chassis and body shell welded on (I think), but certainly 12 points if not more.

Either way I think we can agree that the car is either registered to the rolling chassis or SVA'd and put on a 'Q' Plate, certainly not registered to the body-work that is welded on?

[DonnyMac]

Here you go, body work of one car being welded onto the rolling chassis of another (the original engine is replaced into the rolling chassis); what registration/VIN does it take the rolling chassis with engine and transmission, the (newer) body work welded on or a 'Q' Plate?

[DonnyMac]

sjx said:

DonnyMac said:

Here you go, body work of one car being welded onto the rolling chassis of another (the original engine is replaced into the rolling chassis); what registration/VIN does it take the rolling chassis with engine and transmission, the (newer) body work welded on or a 'Q' Plate?

I knew it would be "that" car!

Would you be surprised that it is insured as a new Qashqai even though it's only the body of one?

What about the £250,000 rumoured price tag!

What would happen if the new owner crashed it, and it wasn't registered properly after they'd shelled out £1/4m?

[DonnyMac]

sjx said:

I've been on the forum in question long enough to keep my head down sometimes. Let's just say that I disagree with the opinion of the builder of that particular car and didn't find his rhetorical 'appeal to authority' particularly convincing...

It's sad though, a huge talent was utilised in creating this vehicle, but no credibility on its legal status which could bite a prospective owner to the tune of £275,000 I've just been told.

WTF, for the sake of a year on the registration plate!

[DonnyMac]

Tyberious said:

A quick check on the registration confirms it's still registered as the body donor vehicle.

Who'd have thought there was a £275,000 'floor' to the plan?

[DonnyMac]

TA14 said:

As mentioned above, two halves of a monocoque is a cut and shut and thus a Q plate.

That's the issue, it's insured as a Qashqai, on the original number plate! No SVA, inspection, nada.

Oh, but a very real £275,000 price tag.

[DonnyMac]

It's potentially a 230mph+ machine that has been (however skilfully) welded together by an MOT tester and he reckons it's fine because he's done it before and the cars were registered before he started.

Fingers crossed for the owner when he drives that to the POD and puts his foot down in a 1000bhp+ cut and shut

[DonnyMac]

If you're skilled enough to create a 1000bhp show car, it should have no problem passing an independent inspection, in fact it should be welcomed and invited.

Your own track day invention? Take your chances. Actively sold at an international car event to private buyers? It must be legal.

[DonnyMac]

B'stard Child said:

DonnyMac said:

Actively sold at an international car event to private buyers? It must be legal.

That doesn't mean it's legal...........

That's what this thread is about.

The car is not road legal.

ETA: that Opel looks amazing!