MOT Advisory note, valid?

MOT Advisory note, valid?

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bmw320ci

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Hi

Some advise please....

4yr old Smart 2nd MOT in its life.
Had the car in Brussels for a bit so fitted these to the back to prevent parking shunts.(Picture below)
Gave the car back to the wife and forgot to remove them for the MOT.
MB Winch came out to see her while she was waiting and said they wont pass with those on (Fair enough, should have removed them beforehand)
But when the MOT is done there is a bloody advisory saying sharp objects on bodywork.... now there either or isnt any sharp edge MB make your mind up...

I was going to go and ask them why they thought it necessary to write that on file when clearly they/MB removed them for my wife!!

Advise??

bmw320ci

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essIII said:
Lawyer up - get them preparing a case demanding not only that this horrific advisory be struck from all records but that you're also financially compensated for the trauma that this incident has caused.

Either that or peel of that st sticker and get on with life.
Sticker????

Who said anything about a sticker!!!

bmw320ci

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Butter Face said:
Really? Another one of these threads? It's an advisory, suck it up and get on with your life. It's not the end of the world.

If anyone ever questions it when you come to sell the car (which is extremely unlikely to happen) you can show them that picture and explain exactly what you said above.
there is a button you hit to reply to this thread, you cant have a lot in your life to keep replying to "threads like these either" get in with your life lol

bmw320ci

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essIII said:
I did. I saw it in your photo. It's st.
yea what you saw and what you read are 2 different things!!!

did it anywhere in my OP say comment about my sticker as thats why I got an advisory???

bmw320ci

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essIII said:
bmw320ci said:
yea what you saw and what you read are 2 different things!!!

did it anywhere in my OP say comment about my sticker as thats why I got an advisory???
It did not, but I chose to think outside the box on this one.
Pointless.....

bmw320ci

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Gary29 said:
Advice? Move on with your life as best you can and try to put this troubling incident behind you.
This was more about MB thinking they could pull the wool over a woman's eyes...

bmw320ci

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Accelebrate said:
Do you have to drill the bumper to fit those, or do they just stick on? If someone does still give you a decent nudge is it not more likely to crack your bumper?
no - they are machined threads the same as the towing eye, just on the smart there are 2, they had a small black protective cap you flick off, people think these are parking sensors! cause you really need them on a smart lol

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TooMany2cvs said:
bmw320ci said:
there is a button you hit to reply to this thread, you cant have a lot in your life to keep replying to "threads like these either" get in with your life lol
Oh, you're one of those, are you?
"If you're not going to tell me what I want to hear, go away..."

Look, it's very simple. You presented a car for MOT with sharp objects on the bodywork. Rather than fail it, the tester advised you, and you removed them there and then. This is how it should work. Satnav, cuddly dice, other "hilarious" tat blocking the screen? Point it out, let the owner remove it. Or leave it in, fail it, and get sworn at. If the tester removed it himself, you can bet there'd be complaints about damage and the rest...

He repeated that advice on the certificate, so you wouldn't be such a fkwit again in the future. Unfortunately, his fkwittery-prevention only extends as far as an hour a year, and he knows damn well that you're going to put them straight back on. With that in mind, covering his arse by saying "Look, I warned the muppet about the stupid fking things" in the only way possible seems like a very wise move.
Do you know I wondered how long it would take to come from under your bridge, not bad 30mins...

Please dont call me a fkwit you dont know me and nor do I wish you to either. It is people like you trolling posts on PH and a big reason that people dont share stories or advise because they are afraid of trolls like you shouting them down, so i suggest if you have some constructive to say then please go ahead but to set up scenarios calling people names for no reason sorry jog on.



bmw320ci

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paintman said:
Sounds like Pass with Rectification at Station.
Bit more about PRS in this thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

What has he given against the advisory as the reason - any numbers & letters?
no rectification on there just advisory of sharp body parts....

bmw320ci

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TooMany2cvs said:
bmw320ci said:
This was more about MB thinking they could pull the wool over a woman's eyes...
In what way?

What has it cost her?
What has it gained them?

Nothing. There is zero gain to anybody, zero loss to anybody because it's on there.

BUT... if you get caught with the stupid fking things on the way back from the test, the tester could lose his job if he's not flagged 'em.

But, no, your ego is more important than his job.
who said anything about my ego

i think you need to go on an anger management course or something because this thread has clearly wound you up... Stupid fking things!!!! wow...

bmw320ci

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MorganP104 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
He repeated that advice on the certificate, so you wouldn't be such a fkwit again in the future. Unfortunately, his fkwittery-prevention only extends as far as an hour a year, and he knows damn well that you're going to put them straight back on. With that in mind, covering his arse by saying "Look, I warned the muppet about the stupid fking things" in the only way possible seems like a very wise move.
This is basically the point, and answers the OP's question fully. He might not want to hear it, but it does answer the question. laugh

Personally, I'd have worded it a little more politely than TooMany2cvs did, but the bottom line is that the MoT tester is (justifiably) covering his own backside.
Thank you MorganP104

bmw320ci

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Butter Face said:
Sheepshanks said:
bmw320ci said:
MB Winch came out to see her while she was waiting and said they wont pass with those on (Fair enough, should have removed them beforehand)
But when the MOT is done there is a bloody advisory saying sharp objects on bodywork.... now there either or isnt any sharp edge MB make your mind up...
I'd say the advisory is wrong.

They ought to have failed it, removed them, and then passed it on the retest.
Christ, that would have been a whole worse thread of 'I can't believe that it failed for THAT, goddamn MOT testers are s11!1!1!1!1!'

Etc.
looks like a title for one of the YOUTUBE VLOGGERSSS



bmw320ci

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Bennet said:
So they're actually screwed in to the towing eye sockets? Is this common practice in Brussels?

Seems a bit harsh on anyone who might walk past the back of your car in the dark.

I'd suggest he's noted it because he assumes you're planning to put them back on.
Nah car is home now served its purpose being here

bmw320ci

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TooMany2cvs said:
JimbobVFR said:
Are they sharp, pointy metal spikes?
Yes.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/B0101D7UG2

Even better - these ones are apparently JDM!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B016RLHFJO
and the difference between these and a tow bar are??

bmw320ci

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Nanook said:
bmw320ci said:
and the difference between these and a tow bar are??
A tow bar isn't spiky.

HTH.
no your right they dont, but they do stick out further than the car so if you do want to walk between cars and not use your eyes you could do yourself more injury with a towbar...

so what are your thoughts on bull bars on the front of cars too then??? get a lot of those on city streets do you?



bmw320ci

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TooMany2cvs said:
You know they've been illegal for a decade, right?
you know there are cars with them still fitted that are older than 10 years old right!!!!

bmw320ci

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TooMany2cvs said:
bmw320ci said:
so what are your thoughts on bull bars on the front of cars too then???
You know they've been illegal for a decade, right?
and not so illegal as you make out!

General Requirements
It is not illegal for vehicles to be fitted with bull bars, although the Department would not
recommend their fitment unless it has been shown, through compliance with specified safety
standards, that they do not pose an additional risk of injury to pedestrians or other vulnerable road
users.
There are no plans for legislation to require bull bars that are already fitted to be removed.
However, since 25 May 2007, it has been an offence for bull bars that have not been approved as
compliant with those safety standards to be sold. Approved devices will carry an indelible ‘e’ mark

bmw320ci

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TooMany2cvs said:
bmw320ci said:
TooMany2cvs said:
You know they've been illegal for a decade, right?
you know there are cars with them still fitted that are older than 10 years old right!!!!
Yes, thank you. A small - and shrinking - number.

Even then (and albeit redundant), like towbars but unlike your own little anal beads, they have an actual functional purpose other than causing injury and damage.
well they are removed now and I can send them to you if you want so you can stick them up your ass then as it seems you have prior experience of shoving things up your own ass by calling them anal beads

bmw320ci

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Little Pete said:
Sheepshanks said:
I'd say the advisory is wrong.

They ought to have failed it, removed them, and then passed it on the retest.
The advisory is correct. A vehicle can only fail on sharp edges that are caused by damage or corrosion.
er this was neither, item removed so no sharp edges, seems like it fell into that category as it didnt fit others, oh well no sleep lost

thanks for all the helpful comments and to the not so helpful ones what can I say.......

bmw320ci

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TooMany2cvs said:
bmw320ci said:
TooMany2cvs said:
bmw320ci said:
TooMany2cvs said:
You know they've been illegal for a decade, right?
you know there are cars with them still fitted that are older than 10 years old right!!!!
Yes, thank you. A small - and shrinking - number.

Even then (and albeit redundant), like towbars but unlike your own little anal beads, they have an actual functional purpose other than causing injury and damage.
well they are removed now and I can send them to you if you want so you can stick them up your ass then as it seems you have prior experience of shoving things up your own ass by calling them anal beads
Oh, gosh. "You're gay, you are". Most people decide that kind of insult is a bit lame when they leave primary school. Or Top Gear.

We call it an "arse" this side of the Atlantic, btw.
do you only come on to PH to insult people, dont you have anything better too do??